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    It is elementary.

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    This - Global credit crunch - is what happened because a bunch of Oicks moved from selling on street barrows (The Barrow Boys) to influence and control the policy and structure of leading financial Institutions. The pure mental gristle of sell,sell,sell overawed all fiscal logic. Put these ahso's on the scrap heap. They wink, nudge, push a few buttons and screw whole countries because actually - they don't know what they are doing. Not the foggiest, have they got other than the size of their bonus. They don't know enough to give a to55 and wouldn't anyway if they did. Thicko's. Twat's. Morons.

    It's enough!
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    There comes a point in every venture -
    Salesmen yo..............
    At that moment, and ever after
    Your most important Asset is your Compliance Officer.
    Do Not - Bonus them up!

    They are GoDS




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    The point of my li'l rant is this.
    These idiots and the criminals hiding behind them
    Have, for their petty self interest destroyed in the USA alone
    some 500 Trillion dollars of Property equity to save some over inflated Hedge Funds.
    That is 500 Trillion. Write that down you idiots!

    Further - A handful of VERY lnfluential business consultants scattered around the world appreciate and ACCEPT CHAOS as worthwhile and profitable. They are physcologists (students of the human mind and human behavior), and belong in straight jackets.
    Their next concept - System Optimised Default Option Futures Finance.

    This round of designed (and totally cocked up) devaluation is not yet complete.
    It is however - already priced into Stock Markets.
    What a wonderful screw up!

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    geeze you break EVERYTHING don't y?

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    Some cocked up software - That's all it is.

    Governments today are proving the Cheap Credit model of Finance as they move to save Banks and Financials.
    It is not enough.
    Underlying economic models and practise are flawed and must be corrected.
    Until things are amended the help is needed by business - all of it needs to survive.
    Forget profit today - just keep the people who earn it around.
    Money, cash - needs to go into pockets and purses.
    Loads of it, now. Give it away.
    The problems caused by the valuation problem are that problems' amplifications.
    The problems, each and every one of them - are now amplifying themselves.
    Exactly what happened with derivatives
    Now the entire global economy is in play and DEFLATING.


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    Where ever loose or sharp money and property come together - pain, grief, loss and disadvantage follow- for the majority involved. In a word - Satyam. Here not only Finance and Building/Property have come together, but IT, Banking Services, Call Centres and quite a bit more. The Mumbai terrorist problems delayed discovery of the company's problems which emerged shortly after anyway.

    In defence of Hedge Funds.
    Hedge Funds don't have to track the overall Stock Market. They make their own.
    A business earning 13% on equity and returning 11% to investors will double its assets in less than 4 years unless it borrows to return.
    This is a very conservative Hedge Fund deal.
    It is legitimate business - though wide oen to largesse and abuse.

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    Resolving a troubled sector of a housing market
    should not have caused even a blip to growth.
    Much, much more is underway.

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    The Hedge Funds should have been allowed to rescue the troubled Financials and Banks.
    In fact, it should have been shoved down their throats.
    They would almost certainly have made a good job of it.

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    Obviously - there is something quite silly and decidedly dodgy about the software valuing markets and opportunity - RETURN. It's all a load of rubbish. To the heart this li'l mistake went. Right to the heart because a bunch of obsessed introverts do not know what to do next to grow the cash flow they need to keep paying off investors so they stay hooked and don't burst the Bubble's. Madoff was a spratt. A mere tiddler.

    The Analysis software is bollox. Flawed logic. How long is it going to take someone to spot this li'l hiccup. Who's going to own up to all this Monopoly Money game - 'cos someone had better - very very SOON. At the moment it remains laughably ridiculous. That is about to change.

    I guarantee IT!

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    The market WILL sort it out. Instantly.

    It reflects life - not the other way around.

    People who take risks are stupid.
    It's unfortunate - that's life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herosrest View Post
    The market WILL sort it out. Instantly.

    It reflects life - not the other way around.

    People who take risks are stupid.
    It's unfortunate - that's life.

    thank you Master Yoda...

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    The consequences of revitalising value are a simple mirror of stock holders history across the last 30 months - they trade on. They are hooked also, and have been victimised.

    Cash is the problem - until there is enough flying around. A nice lube job needed to handle that.

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    Devaluing Assets of a troubled SECTION of the Home property market,
    probably makes reasonable sense to those in business seeing opportunity and to those threatened by defaults.

    However, flooding that devaluation across the entire market rather than the troubled sector is extreme folly.
    The national current accounts are destroyed. The implications are unbelievable.
    This has never been intended, let alone contemplated by any rational individual ever.
    It is insanity and gets fixed - 30 seconds after the people who can, can fix it.
    Once it is understood - it makes total sense as fact.
    There ain't no messing about. Oooooer, lets analyse it.
    That's been going wrong for quite a time now - human nature at it's worst.
    There's been a huge cockup - ooooooer, what do we do.

    Where is my pillow........... There is no brake with rules as they are. It just carries on.
    Last edited by herosrest; 02-15-2009 at 03:12 AM.

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