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It is a li'l too late to be resetting asset class flags - dont you think!
During deep sleep IT came to me and the future of processing is clear.
Future processors will primarily be digital tuning radios acting as grid computing nodes.
Voila. See ya in hell.  PROCESSING
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A rare, enjoyable, headache as stock values adjust - upwards by..................... hmmmmm.......... lots and lots and lots. 
During deep sleep IT came to me and the future of processing is clear.
Future processors will primarily be digital tuning radios acting as grid computing nodes.
Voila. See ya in hell. PROCESSING
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Go see the Doc Ero' ........ Ya loosin it ........ Another Plotless Billy ? ..... Me finks so 
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I'd say he's lost the plot...but he never had it to begin with...
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Not me losing the plot, lads. The scripts of Business Logic have been re-written and then manipulated beyond commonsense. This is not a brave new world that has emerged but a street market Bazaar of back handers, largesse and plain simple economic lunacy.
A plain simple mistake is being carried on and no one see's it. When they do - it will be ignored!
That error is profound and deadly to economies.
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If UK mortgage lenders believe they have secured enough capital to tide themselves through a recession, they had better think again. A look at the residential property derivatives market suggests house prices have very far indeed to tumble before they reach their expected trough. Since peaking in August 2007, when the average house sold for £201,081, prices have fallen 16.4 per cent, reaching £168,158 at the end of October. Two-year derivatives contracts are now pointing to a further fall of a third to about £113,000. This implied 44 per cent peak-to-trough decline would wipe out all gains since the summer of 2002, leaving several million households with negative equity. It is Utter bollox!
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Chicken and egg, or Goose in this case. Which existed first - value or earnings from that value.
The entire property Market is valued as Distressed.
Which it is not or was not - until the accountants got to work.
It is an almighty screw-up!
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It should be perfectly clear to even the dumbest mouse that valuations, "INCORRECTLY" deflating a housing market by 30% rather than a troubled sector within that market is utter folly and unprincipled and wrong.
It is an error of logic. An illogical error. A Fatal Error. A mistake.
The value has been taken away not squandered, bad invested or abused - it has been 'vanished' by an accounting error.
The equivalent of Trillions of value per day because an adjustment to distressed property value has been applied across the board affecting every property.
What did everyone think was going to happen?
Reduced property values devastates credit markets. Credit Markets are devatated.
Leveraged Finance drains the current account. National current accounts are devastated.
Economy's are shrinking by factors equivalent to the revaluation of property.
navy]The property revaluation is conceptually wrong. Only a sector of the property market was over priced yet the adjustment was universal.
Market cap measures size equal to the share price times outstanding shares. Owning stock represents opinion of net worth and is a determining factor in stock valuation. Capitalization of all publicly traded companies in the world was US$51.2 trillion in January 2007 and rose as high as US$57.5 trillion in May 2008 before dropping below US$50 trillion in August 2008 and slightly above US$40 trillion in September 2008. It is a direct function of Market Value which is deflating (erroneously) and s already priced into by the equations. Cap is a function of value BUT pre-empting it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_capitalization
1. The use of various financial instruments or borrowed capital, such as margin, to increase the potential return of an investment.
2. The amount of debt used to finance a firm's assets. A firm with significantly more debt than equity is considered to be highly leveraged.
http://www.answers.com/topic/leverage
Wiping out 30% of Home asset value is reflected directly in 30% stock market falls of the last 12 months.
This was an error. A simple mistake of procedure.
The stock Market valuations have already priced in the deflation. It is endemic to the system of trading, is aan error (mistake) and totally ridiculous (a load of bollox). Problems experienced now are the symptom of the Incorrect Property Value devaluation and not the Financial credit problems which are a result of Leveraged Finance Investment Returns. Both the Property valuation error and Leveraged Finance returns are squeezing vast amounts out of the current account and the economy is stalling.
The Property Valuation deflation is a plain simple system error.
Leveraged Finance returns are daylight robbery and have crippled the banks.
National current accounts have a very large hole in their purse and it is only going to get bigger and bigger until the property valuation concept is amended or the world goes bust. Going bust will happen very, very quickly if things carry on as they are. A huge Leveraged Finance bubble was bursting and that 'Industry' (for want of a better word) is fighting to survive. This should not be allowed to happen.
Those in the know, today, have been guided to a view that economic probbies are ugly, painful and long term. It is as big a con as the motives or the deflation which is prime now. Albeit perhaps accidental, assuredly the biggest cock up ever. Is accelerating to leave no value. Anywhere.
Investing on margin isn't necessarily gambling. But you can draw some parallels between margin trading and the casino. Margin is a high-risk strategy that can yield a huge profit if executed correctly. The dark side of margin is that you can lose your shirt and any other assets you're wearing. One of the only things riskier than investing on margin is investing on margin without understanding what you're doing. - CLICK
"About half of all purchases made by consumers last year were made with cash," Mark Beccue of ABI told Contactless News. - CLICK
The CBI says that the economy will contract by 3.3% this year, compared with its previous forecast in November that it would shrink by 1.7%.
The matter is as subtle as this problem. Which end does the horse go? PUZZLE - CLICK
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 Originally Posted by herosrest
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THIS IS THE STORY OF THE CENTURY.
AS CUSTER AND LITTLE BIG HORN WAS IN 19TH CENTURY
IT WILL BREAK - IT WILL GO HUGE
IT WILL DESTROY REPUTATIONS, CAREERS, CREDIBILITY AND PERSONAL FREEDOM. 
Last edited by herosrest; 02-16-2009 at 03:30 PM.
During deep sleep IT came to me and the future of processing is clear.
Future processors will primarily be digital tuning radios acting as grid computing nodes.
Voila. See ya in hell. PROCESSING
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Ya canne beat a bitta Chaos
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I like sarah palin, pie and pudding.
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If you are a home owner and that home is not for sale, the property is worth the valuation made under Insurance to Rebuild. That is the basis of your contracted loan. That valuation and insurance YOU PAY will rebuild the property TODAY at todays prices. If you are not selling your home, it is not affected in any which way by market conditions. How can it be.
Accountants and Finance people believe property is worth considerably less today than a year ago. Massive amounts less. They are dick-heads. Rich ones maybe but dick head's none the less. The way they think is for their business interest, which is trading. They are self serving and devaluing your property is disadvantaging you, mightily AND HELPING THEM MASSIVELY - TO PROFIT. Were that disadvantage to you legitimate, well...... life can suck. It is not a legitimate dealing and you should be having quiet words with people who are ruining your wealth and lives with deceit. Why are they doing it......... Guess?
They screwed up their business and expect you to pay and suffer to correct their mess and save their wealth. I believe that concept is understood to be SOCIALISM. COMMUNISM
They will say this is all rubbish. It isn't. They are full of it - Mumbo Jumbo.
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Please explain what derivatives are again hero?
The simple explanation please.
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Future processors will primarily be digital tuning radios acting as grid computing nodes.
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Originally Posted by herosrest
Insurance.
What did they insure?
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