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    I'm sure that eventually a review site will compare screenshots from the 1.1 version of FarCry (since this is the version that supports SM3.0 on NV40). The problem is that we can only compare ATI's SM2.0 to Nvidia's SM3.0 in this game because Nvidia either runs the game in SM3.0 or 1.1; never SM2.0. Hopefully the 1.2 patch will force Nvidia to run in SM2.0.
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    I really want to see a game engine truly built for SM 3.0 screenshots to be compared against the same engine just using SM 2.0. I dunno if FarCry was really made with SM 3.0 (or if it was patched in much like the way Aquamark did when they upgraded DX 8 to DX 9 shaders).

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    Yep, that's true. I guess it would be kinda like running an Itanium in 32-bit mode versus an AMD64 in 32-bit mode. One is emulated (in the case of FarCry probably) and the other is built for it. However, some screenshots would still be nice.
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    AFAIK the "SM3.0 upgrade" for Far Cry will not bring a massive amount of additional IQ over the SM2.0 render of ATi, it's mostly being used to speed up the shader operations.

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    We'll see if it even does that, I'm kind of having my doubts. Maybe newer games written explicitly for SM3.0 (if they ever do make them) will show more of a shader speed improvement. Of course, FarCry could run awesomely with SM3.0 and I'd be wrong, but I think it's gonna be more like the performance jump from AGP4x ----> AGP8x.
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    I wonder if Mr. C will use SM 3.0 to speed up the shaders in Doom3...
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    This is getting to be so cool at how they are making such strides and effort ot better the graphics in things... its very exciting..but the price I am afraid may break the bank for alot of users...

    It will be quite awhile..before I can afford to spend $500.00 on a video card... I spent $200.00 for a good card I have now..which in some places still sells for $270.00..and it does an exceptional job with all the games I have played so far...including the latest....

    At least another year for me..till I get one of these or a later card.
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    Originally posted by morpheus kain
    I wonder if Mr. C will use SM 3.0 to speed up the shaders in Doom3...
    I doubt it this late in the development stage. That said, i wouldnt be suprised to see a patch or addon later in the day similar to Far Cry or the way in which Valve intends to roll out DX10 graphical updates to Source

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    Yeah that's what I was thinking Jakk but you never know if Carmack feels it would add to the game enough and make it more accessible then it very well may get done. Despite that I'm with you I wouldnt' be surprised at all to see a patch come out for it.
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    Ok, lets stop fighting between ATI and Nvidia for one minute.

    nobody anser the question i ask about this...

    what's the diferance between:

    AOPEN GeFORCE 6800 ULTRA 256MB

    AOPEN Aeolus 6800Ultra-DVD256

    AOPEN Aeolus 6800GT-DV256

    and witch one will be the most compadible with a 64bit system???

    and money is not an issue. i just want the best...


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    If you go to AOpen's site you should be able to find the difference between the cards. They all sound like slightly different models of the same basic card. They'll probably differ in things like bundle, core and memory clock, and possibly features like dual DVI and/or ViVo functionality. All should be about the same for A64 compatibility.
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    The GeForce 6800 Ultra was releast today.

    http://www.gameve.com/gve/Store/Prod...u=VC-EVGA-6800

    but it is back order on this site.

    is there anybody that know any other site that as it in stuck???

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    Is there any screenshot evidence that shows SM 3.0 with an IQ advantage over SM 2.0? All I have seen is SM3.0 compared to SM1.1, which is irrevalent because neither ATi or Nvidia's new cards are SM 1.1.

    I find it interesting that SM 3.0 is being touted as a must have feature, when I am still unsure of its actual benefits.

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    It's not a must have feature, get sm2.0. Youll just miss out on all the fun!

    And no there is no real comparison shots, b/c sm3.0 is virtually non-existant at the moment. We will have to wait a few months (or longer) before any kind of real comparison's can be made.

    There do exist some awsome sm3.0 shots with the unreal 3 engine, and I doubt sm2.0 would look nearly as good b/c the models are insanely detailed. By then though, the X800 and 6800 will be budget cards at best.
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    99% of the benefits of SM3.0 are performance related not IQ related. It's going to help IQ by allowing a card to maintain a playable framerate with more eye-candy enabled more than anything else.
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