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07-15-2004, 10:34 AM
#946
yeah i don't think i'll OC my system for a while now. it runs like a charm
nice score by the way
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07-15-2004, 05:03 PM
#947
Ultimate Member
you are ****ting me you got an X800 pro and now a 6800 ultra already im not rich enough for this. why didnt you get the X800 XT PE. its a lot better in most test ive read.
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07-18-2004, 10:31 PM
#948
Senior Member
your opinions on this?
well after upgrading the processor,the memory and the vid card I would like to know what you guys/gals think
P4 2.0A@2.36ghz
512mb PC2700
ATI 9600XT 128mb
3DMARK2003 build 340
score: 3597
before upgrading
Intel Celeron 2.5@3.0ghz
512mb PC2100
Xtasy TI4600 128mb
3DMARK2003 build 340
score: 1187
the prince of all saiyans will not fall again!
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07-19-2004, 01:59 PM
#949
Ultimate Member
Its a significant improvment
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07-19-2004, 06:10 PM
#950
Hooya!
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07-19-2004, 07:35 PM
#951
Senior Member
Originally posted by porsch1909
Its a significant improvment
althought in most games the difference will be smaller.
in dx8 games, the ti4600 is usually even fatser than any radeon 9600, but your new cpu is faster, so the performance could be the same as before in dx8-games.
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07-20-2004, 12:09 PM
#952
Originally posted by MrBurns
althought in most games the difference will be smaller.
in dx8 games, the ti4600 is usually even fatser than any radeon 9600
In the majority of casers a 9600 XT (or Pro for that matter) is faster (IMO not enough to warrant the purchase though - the R9800 Pro woudl have represented better value for money)than a Ti4600, even in DX8 applications.
http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.c...ournament_2003
http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.c...charts-04.html
http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.c...charts-08.html
etc.
--Jakk
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07-20-2004, 12:21 PM
#953
Senior Member
but you see, that the difference is not big between the ti4600 and the r9800 in dx8 games, or would you call 3fps in ut2003 and 7fps in generals big? ok, in bf1942 the differenc is a little bigger, but this is only in this one dx8 game.
about the 9600xt: if i would have the time, i would be able to find enough benchmarks, where the 9600xt is slower than the ti4600. i dont know, which is better on average, but when you compare the normal 9600, it is slower than the ti4600 in most dx8-games. if i would have the time for it, i would search for benchmarks to prove what i posted.
i have seen one benchmark of the ti4600 in hl2 (or was it doom3?), where it had even better framrates than the r980 w/ the dx8-rendering-path. and the r9800 had more fps w/ the dx8-path than w/ all dx9-paths, probably because some details require dx9.
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07-20-2004, 01:03 PM
#954
Originally posted by MrBurns
but you see, that the difference is not big between the ti4600 and the r9800 in dx8 games, or would you call 3fps in ut2003 and 7fps in generals big? ok, in bf1942 the differenc is a little bigger, but this is only in this one dx8 game.
I didnt say the gap was particular big (indeed, if you'll look above you'll see i explicitly state the fact that the gap is small), however, it is a gap none the less.
i have seen one benchmark of the ti4600 in hl2 (or was it doom3?), where it had even better framrates than the r980 w/ the dx8-rendering-path. and the r9800 had more fps w/ the dx8-path than w/ all dx9-paths, probably because some details require dx9.
It wont have been doom 3 as it doesnt have any direct X renders (its an Open GL game - though given Nvidia's Open GL strength and the somewhat 'remarkable' nature of the preliminary D3 benchmarks, i wouldnt be suprised to see the ti4600 beating the 9600XT) and in HL2, (pre-NV40) Nvidia cards are extremely performance limited (paticularly in the full DX9/SM2.0 path)
The speed of theTi4600 in HL2 DX8 path:
http://www4.tomshardware.com/busines...f-life-03.html
is equal to that of the R9600 Pro in the [B]DX9[B] path.
In that particular game its pointless making a comparison between the two cards DX8 performance, because the 9600XT owner can enjoy it in its full DX9 goodness at the same speed a Ti4600 user gets the Dx8 experience at.
As for using benchmarks ot prove a point, they were simply the first DX8 benchmarks i found, and the only one in which the ti4600 holds a speed advantage of any kind is in WC3: Frozen Throne, and even then its less than 1FPS.
--Jakk
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07-20-2004, 03:28 PM
#955
Senior Member
I dont see any benchmarks of ati cards on your link.
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07-20-2004, 08:21 PM
#956
Senior Member
Radeon 9800 Pro 128 (OC 412/750)
Barton XP 2500+ @ 2800+
MSI K7N2 Ultra L
2x 256 PC 2700 Dual Channel
6012 3dmark03
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07-21-2004, 06:31 AM
#957
Ultimate Member
I heard somewhere that doom 3 supports HT technology is this true, does anybody know???
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07-21-2004, 06:36 AM
#958
Senior Member
Originally posted by porsch1909
I heard somewhere that doom 3 supports HT technology is this true, does anybody know???
i only read somewhere, that there will be an amd64 version. i know, hl2 will have an amd64 version.
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07-21-2004, 06:40 AM
#959
Ultimate Member
yeh but is there much point in that if the windows 64 isnt out yet??
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07-21-2004, 09:15 AM
#960
Originally posted by MrBurns
I dont see any benchmarks of ati cards on your link.
Forgot the second link:
http://www4.tomshardware.com/busines...on_performance
--Jakk
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