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    I can see that happening, but never have had serious problems myself

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    3d mark 2003 scores

    3d Mark 2003 Pro

    Spec: (Computer "Gengis")

    MCI K7-2N Raid motherboard (sound disabled)
    Athalon 3000 (@ 2.17Mhz)
    1 Gb Ram (DDR 400MHz)
    Ati Radeon 9800 256Mb
    Soundblaster Live! 5.1
    Maxtor 200Gb SATA drive
    Maxtor 200Gb IDE 7200 rpm drive

    Other spec: (Computer "Fraggle")
    GB Motherboard
    Intel Pentium 4 2Ghz
    512 Mb Rambus ram @ 400Mhz bus
    NVidea G-Force 4600
    Soundblaster Live! 5.1
    Maxtor 80Gb (@5200 rpm)
    Maxtor 60Gb (@5200 rpm)
    Maxtor 20Gb (@5200 rpm)

    Hi all,

    With the above specs I'm getting 1574 on 'Fraggle' and 5587 on 'Gengis' (don't ask about the names - it's just my weird sense of humor)

    As you can probably tell, I don't have much loyalty to any particular manufacturer (except maxtor, maybe!) - I've noted a few things from these machines....

    1. Intel Vs. Pentium.. No contest, Intel wins hands down. The 2 Ghz Processor has held it's ground extremely well for 2 years nearly! Trouble is, if I wanted a 3Ghz Intel processor, it would cost around 500!! This is not really acceptable for a mere chip - especially when it's my ATi doing all the work! For 150 I picked up the XP3000 - and as you can see, it performs very well.

    2. CPU's don't make that much difference to performance. With the same spec as above for Gengis, but with a 1Ghz processor, I got 4843 on 3D Mark 2003 pro! However you really notice the difference in 'general' computer use.

    3. MCI motherboards REALLY kick *** and make a big difference!

    4. S-ATA drives are extremely quick - expect these to get at least 10 times faster as the technology is accepted by the IT community. Pain in the 'arris to install though.... I recommend Seagate's "Disk wizard" for set-up.

    5. I managed 337 FPS on the "wings of fury" test 1 at one point... Beat that!!

    6. All this hardware made me miss the mortgage payment for a month! What a jerk!!!

    All comments welcome, hope to hear from you all soon.

    Rick_Terminal
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    Nice scores!

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    Re: 3d mark 2003 scores

    Originally posted by Rick_Terminal
    1. Intel Vs. Pentium..
    I also believe, that Intel wins on Intel Vs. Pentium, because Pentium is from Intel. On Intel Vs. AMD the AMD Athlon64 wins in performance and price/oerformance ratio in the high end (I could post benchmarks, if you dont believe it) and the Athlon XP wins in price/oerformance ratio in the lower end.

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    1. AMD is the much smarter choice for price/performance. The p4 3.2ghz probably barely edges out the 3200+, but will lose to the top 64bit processor. I feel overall AMD wins the AMD vs. Intel match.

    2. You're right, 3dmark 2003 is very GPU dependant, everything else will make minor changes compared to a different video card.

    3. I don't get how you come to the conclusion that MCI mobos make a huge difference in scores. Gengis has a *MUCH* more powerful video card, CPU, faster HD's, and double the ram...how you attribute any improved performance to the mobo is beyond me.

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    1. AMD is the much smarter choice for price/performance. The p4 3.2ghz probably barely edges out the 3200+, but will lose to the top 64bit processor. I feel overall AMD wins the AMD vs. Intel match.
    You guys obvoiously aint seen the latest benchmark tests......

    http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030923/index.html


    Pentium wins more than two thirds of the tests....and is cheaper than the AMD64...!

    Oh..Ye...and who would want a 64 bit processor at the moment when systems and software arent even optimized for 64 Bit?


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    Originally posted by bblqj78


    You guys obvoiously aint seen the latest benchmark tests......

    http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030923/index.html


    Pentium wins more than two thirds of the tests....and is cheaper than the AMD64...!

    Oh..Ye...and who would want a 64 bit processor at the moment when systems and software arent even optimized for 64 Bit?

    The Pentium4, taht wins most tests is the Extreme Edition, which isnt available yet. In games, that Athlon64 3200+ has about the same scores as the P4 3.2c.

    Also, the Pentium4 3.2c isnt cheaper than the Athlon64 3200+: In my area, the Pentium4 3.2C costs about 700 (about 800$) and the Athlon64 3200+ only costs about 500 (about 550$).

    Also, all these benchmarks are 32bit and when 64bit apps come out, the Athlon64 will be far better than the P4. It will not take long: Epic will release a 64bit version of Unreal Tournament 2003 as sonn as the 64bit version of Windows will come out (probably in the middle of 2004).

    Also, Apic said, that 2005 they will produce a 64bit only game, and there will sure follow others. This game wont even be playable on a 32bit CPU.

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    AMD is by far the best bet for price/performance, can Intel deliver anything close to a 2500+ for $85? At the top of the line AMD is still much cheaper, I think the 3200+ is about $450 and the p4 3.2ghz is around $650? I won't really rely on those benchmarks too much until the p4 extreme edition (which I personally think is a huge marketing ploy, not impressed at all) and the 64bit athlon chip is widely availible. If I were to buy any top of the line chips right now it would definately be the 64bit chip. It won't be long until the first 64bit games come out (exciting!) and soon following that everything will be run 64bit.

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    Originally posted by bblqj78


    You guys obvoiously aint seen the latest benchmark tests......

    http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030923/index.html


    Pentium wins more than two thirds of the tests....and is cheaper than the AMD64...!

    Oh..Ye...and who would want a 64 bit processor at the moment when systems and software arent even optimized for 64 Bit?

    Coincidentally everyone else who has compared the P4EE to the Athlon64 FX-51 has given the crown to the Athlon.

    See this article here on [H]ardOCP where they declare the A64 FX-51 the winner.

    On the Tech Report they have an article
    here where they say the A64 FX-51 has a strong claim to the title of fastest x86 processor.

    Lost Circuits gives the nod to the FX-51 too.

    So the concensus is very much that Tom's Hardware got it wrong again.

    Also the infamous P4EE is NOT yet available, and set for a price of $925 at launch while the FX-51 can be bought for about $750 and Newegg had stock on launch day. The P4EE is not going to do it.
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    Originally posted by Rugor


    Coincidentally everyone else who has compared the P4EE to the Athlon64 FX-51 has given the crown to the Athlon.

    See this article here on [H]ardOCP where they declare the A64 FX-51 the winner.

    On the Tech Report they have an article
    here where they say the A64 FX-51 has a strong claim to the title of fastest x86 processor.

    Lost Circuits gives the nod to the FX-51 too.

    So the concensus is very much that Tom's Hardware got it wrong again.

    Also the infamous P4EE is NOT yet available, and set for a price of $925 at launch while the FX-51 can be bought for about $750 and Newegg had stock on launch day. The P4EE is not going to do it.
    Toms Hardware is alway known to favor Intel a little bit. And even there the Athlon 64 FX-51 wins against the P4EE in most gaming tests.

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    Check out the intel/AMD/Mac post Jakk posted on the CPU forum, some good info there.

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    hehe

    allways good kicking up an AMD/Intel battle....it aint really that hard nowadays...especially in forums where most of the members have AMD's.

    I take the point

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    im lovin it

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    Poot, apart from the modest gain in benchmark score, what else is different between the 9600 and 9800, give me all the gory details.
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    Originally posted by Ammok
    Poot, apart from the modest gain in benchmark score, what else is different between the 9600 and 9800, give me all the gory details.
    ummmmm... try o/c ing

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