AMD Names New 64-Bit Processor

[genesound]

Maybe if there are faster audio editing and utilities available. With computers you need to get the hardware necessary to run the software you wish to use.

[corrupted]

a good programmer can get around those problems. just look at quake1. no need for a 3D card, but still among the best of it's time.

[genesound]

A good programmer would probably love to have the 64 bit and HT or dually.

[cntrowland]

I think I'll go ahead an build a new system anyway. I've really found it beneficial to stay a tad behind the technology... bugs get worked out, more support, and COST goes down.... not to mention when the new stuff starts (i.e. the Athlon 64 {i agree on the naming}), the technology and components you've been wanting to get hold of are even cheaper! Usually.

On an afterthought... I really hope that AMD/Intel begin to concentrate more on the bottlenecks... like the system board, PCI slots (although 64bit is here), etc. Any comments?

Take care folks.

--CWR

[Aarmenaa]

I have to agree with cntrowland on this one. I haven't been on top of the technology in years, but I'm still plugging along OK. I have a Hewlett Packard system that I bought off a business, because it was going under. A real nice PIII system with a SCSI 160 hard disk-and to my surprise, it had 64-bit PCI slots! Of course, searching for 64-bit PCI cards was a futile effort-they don't exsist for people like me. The chain is only as strong as it's weakest link, and right now the CPU isn't that weak link.

-Aarmenaa

[corrupted]

i'd love a 64-bit pci slot . . .

[thronka]

My biggest concern for all of you is this: Will this be another Cyrix like processor? Cyrix was a **** processor but it kicked **** at office 97 and other operations because it speed up the 16 bit pipeline for those simple operations.

[corrupted]

good point thronka

[daav1]

Hi All..., I agree w/you all. The name is sooooo 'Straight' sounding! If they're going to stick w/Hammer..., how about "SledgeHammer" or "JackHammer". Or, even" 'telWrecker" or "InsideStomper"??? ~daav1~ =)

[Terminator]

Just a point.....ok this might sound a bit thick ....but here goes...I had a look at those AMD 64 motherboards and noticed all had 'standard' AGP slots as well as PCI slots.... If the CPU is 64bit then are the PCI slots going to be upgraded to 64 bit and is the AGP slot going to be replaced with some 'super AGP' slot???? Also is the IDE interface going to be upgraded too and new drives to support much faster data rates?
Can't see it happening right away because people would have to spend more money on new cards but is it a sign of the times to come???? But as you've mentioned it is a case of computer evolution.
As for 64 bit apps to be written then if you program in say 32bit C++ etc then it really isn't a vast task to take the source code and pump it through a 64 bit version of the compiler, or it shouldn't be.
I have VB Enterprise edition and can write 16 or 32 bit apps depending on what I want.... If I need the 32 bit version I just load the source code and run it through the 32bit version and out pops the 32 bit version Problem will be in writing 'optimised' 64 bit code but I'm sure they're being written as we speak.

Just one more thing... I saw tomshardware's video on the Hyperthreading comparison of the 3.6GHz and 3.0GHz HT test and was amazed at the performance when HT was implemented.
AMD being 'cagey' about Hyperthreading makes me think they are concerned about it and how they can compete.

For last 10 years I've been building computers.... from 8086's to XP's now and have chosen AMD in favour of Intel ..well from the AMD 486 120MHz onwards and sorry to admit this I'm seriously thinking of making my next machine an Intel...sorry Intel seem to be slashing prices across the board and AMD seems to be struggling to even keep pace with them. Prices here in the UK for the P4 2.8GHz is cheaper than the AMD XP2800!!!!!!!

On another note....(this will never happen I believe) if Intel decided to ever unlock their clock multipliers would this not do serious damage to AMD because I'm pretty sure I aint alone in choosing AMD cuz you can clock it with the multiplier?

Enough said......will wait to see what fans out with the new chips.

T

[rraehal]

Originally posted by causticVapor


The 386 was 16-bit, while the 486 was 32-bit.

The 486 was a 32bit chip internally, I was looking at the wrong line on my table - I should be more careful. HEHE

[compgen2000@msn.com]

What people don't get is that the 64-bit processor will replace 32-bit processors on a price point. They won't be horribly more expensive. It essentially displaces current 32-bit processors and takes their current price point. It's like getting a 64-bit upgrade for free! Not to mention that it kicks *** in 32-bit apps too. So if it were out would you rather buy a 64-bit processor that will be supported in the future, has greater functionality, and increased value or 32-bit chips that are built on an aging and soon to be dying archetecture. The current benchmarks are based on a 800Mhz version of the chip, but they still kick major *** for a 800Mhz chip. And I can't wait to see the performance numbers when the ship is running at around the expected clock frequency of around 2Ghz.

Who needs 64-bit now? Well maybe poeople don't now, but when software comes out (it's really simple to port to 64-bit... i read somewhere that it took IBM only a couple of days to port DB2 to X86-64.) and when it does, I can simply run those programs with no system upgrade, while enjoying great performace with current software. I'm definately getting a shiny new Athlon 64 when they come out.

[corrupted]

i think i still prefer the IBM architecture

[xenomorph69]

I feel the X86-64 Bit Platform will benifit in many ways.
1) From Toms Hardware it runs at 1.6 Ghz @ 64 bit (Meaning that is 3.2 Ghz at 32 bit speeds)
2) the Mac risc motorola is at 1.25 Ghz they are 64 bit
3) the Transistion between 32 bit and 64 bit this benifits in Both ways (Not all of us will want to fork out 9000 US for Windows XP 64 bit edition
4) we can still run a 32 bit OS and 32 bit applications if we need to goto a 64 bit platform then we do not need to fork out 7000 Dollars for an Itanium II and still Running at 800 - 1000 Mhz

This baby will Probably go for 700 US


These are Just My Views on this Processor

I am Very much looking forward to it

[dna_level_c7]

I really don't understand it....

All of you asking if you really need the speed??? Would you buy a car that didn't go over 100 MPH??!?!?!??!

Just because the speed limit is 55....


Come on get real!!!!



Most people want the newest out, just because.....AMD see this, I love AMD.

I sat back this upgrading season, no Athlon XPs, or P4s for me, just stuck with my AMD K62 @ 500MHz......


Next season, it's Athlon 64....