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....thank you Lgbpop....not trying to sound like I don't listen to advice (and THANK YOU...for real, you're reminding me that it's harder than it looks....looked at NTLDR and wouldn't dream of...

...BTW...as the boot.ini is on the "D" drive it won't boot without the "C" drive in...if I'm right it's because:
[boot loader]
timeout=20
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="WinXP2"...

...edit....this is my backup "C" boot.ini:
[boot loader]
redirect=useBiosSettings
redirectbaudrate=
timeout=23
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]...

....wait a minute....
first off EACH bootable drive has it's own boot.ini....
...second unless the boot.ini refers to more than one drive (and does not refer to an invald boot path) it won't have...

I found gParted worked VERY well...I re-sized a 40 gig (cloned XP partition) to 110 gigs with out a problem except my usb mouse wanted to lock up so I had to try 3 times before it worked... (anyone...

hate to "bump" this but have a question.....before I re-installed XP and cloned it over to the sata drive I made the mistake of using fixboot to try to access the hosed sata drive so the "C" drive...

Thanks Sterling....
If I'm correct Fixmbr will re-set the "D" drive to a "C" drive as long as the other drives (namely the "C") are not connected...then after I reboot ok I can re attach the IDE...

...ok....first off I hosed my XP...used another drive and reinstalled, used a recovery tool to get files off the hosed drive onto a 3rd drive....then used HDClone to move XP to the hosed drive since...

...and not via scripts or automaticly....just not having to load a stack of disks....

I guess I wasn't clear...what I want to do is have XP on a DVD and basicly folders with all of the other software CD's I would have to install after windows...and a folder that has my downloaded...