it's not too bad, it runs to just over 40 i think. just that strange prog by cronosoft killed my cpu lol.
it's not too bad, it runs to just over 40 i think. just that strange prog by cronosoft killed my cpu lol.
Brand new, freshly built CPU with Liquid cooling and overclocking
Pent4 3.0 Ghz 800mhz FSB
1GB of 3200DDR Ram
Nvidia GeForceFX 5900
hell of a lot of money...
score seems a little unrealistic when i've seen a watercooled 5ghz machine only reach about 19-20k
Sounds like a scorcher on that last post/score lol Yea like DJ said, give us screen shots of that one.
BTW For any one getting low scores--
I went into Direct 3d settings for the video card before running my bench mark, and set every thing to performance, not quality. I would assume since we are running bench marks, and want to see what is our best score is, that is what we should be doing correct??
My best score was 4605 at these performance settings. I ran with a mix of performance/quality settings, and my score was about 30% lower.--RH--
PS I did not see much difference in quality watching these bench marks at the different video settings, it still looked pretty darn good at the performance settings. Sure would like to buy a flight simulator game like what is in that bench mark, hope they release something like that in the future.
Question for DJ/Rugor
Question concerning trying to get bench mark to run faster.
Intel 2.4b c1 stepping
I can run bench with the Asus 1002 bios and over clock to 3204mhz. (great--no complaint here)
I thought maybe the updated bios would make an improvement, which is version 1005. It would not boot with the same bios settings that gave me 3204 mhz(which was 174fsb, and a one notcj jump in cpu core v and mem v). In fact. I was down to 2808mhz, and it would boot, but no sound(onboard sound).
The Asus site says the update for the 1005 is only concerning the d1 stepping cpu(which I think is the hyperthreading and faster fsb). Any one have a clue as to what is going on. I repeated this two times, as I could not believe what was happening??? It boots with the new bios settings just fine at standard 2400mhz settings??
the d1 stepping bios is optimised for my chip, the p4-2.4c and others in the same range as they all have d1 stepping now. since the change is not actually compatible with your stepping, it's probably that which has adversely affected your performance.
i'm not sure if you can revert to your old bios?
I know it supports the D1 stepping, I was just looking for an improvement. I would have thought ASUS would have put a warning not to download unless you have the new cpu, as there would be a performance loss instead of a gain.
No problem flashing back to my old Bios, I have done it quite a few times now. Just trying to get every last bit of performance out of this thing lol. I always make sure I have a copy of the bios that came with the mobo/video card before making any sort of major changes like that.
Thanks for the reply DJ:t
no worries, but if it makes you feel better you are running faster bench's than my current config clocked to 3.34ghz, with graphics clock to 357 and mem clock to 305. Not sure how much further I can push it.... memory is DEFINATELY bottlenecking, my p3 vaio laptop with 512mb sdram runs a3 pages in photoshop much more comfortably than this thing right now.... grrr
I think i might have to check if there are any updates for my mb too, see if i can squeeze a little more lol.
That cpu you have is an overclocking monster man(that is a 2.4c right). If so you are getting about 100mhz more then me. I have not tried any thing on memory timing or any thing, just jumped the fsb up, and one notch up on the mem/cpu. Can you point me in the right direction on overclocking the memory, since the fsb is as high as I can get it(before rebooting). Like I said in another post, I went into the video settings, and turned quality down, performance up for the 3dMark03.
On my final run, I also disabled ASUS probe, which gave me a few extra points(I knew from the runs before, that the temp did not go above 49-50, thanks to the spark-7 smart fan). There probably is a lot to the memory overclocking, but I have not run into any articles that explain how to do it correctly(at least with my limited knowledge(maybe I did not understand what they were trying to get across).
I had at one time, two ATI 9500pro boards at one time. One would not o/c much at all, and the one I have does pretty good. I flashed the bios back to origional and returned the one.
Thanks for any information you may be able to give me -RH-
Crucial 512 pc2700
ASUS P4PE/onboard sound
9500Pro(Bios flashed for o/c) 382.50 core 310.50mem
I noticed my computer ran all tests except for the one sound test that has like 60 sounds or something(I guess mobo can't handle it). Does that help/hurt/or does't matter as far as score goes --any one know??
I think you've more or less squeezed all the power out of your machine dude. You graphics frequencies are really high, my non pro couldnt reach that high lol.
My memory is bottlenecking, but I havent touched mem or cpu vcore. Only FSB. My memory bandwidth is only half as fast as downstairs where the bandwidth is 6000mb/s, up here it's only 3000mb/s. Big slowdown.
Benchmark of this machine:
fsb = 280 (1120)
256mb corsair xms3500 (only one stick)
performance = turbo
using enhanced memory latency timings.
radeon 9500 non-pro 64mb
graphics core = 360
graphics mem = 305
i'll try and push it properly today and see if i can beat that.
The machine downstairs is running
2x256 corsair xms3200ll in dual channel
radeon 9700 non pro
graphcis core clocked to 390
graphics mem clocked to 330
2001 score - 16200
2003 score - 5200
Yea, I think your are right, as I am on the hairy edge. Getting some artifacts when running the bench. You want to hear something funny. I can only run 2 out of 3 sound tests with the onboard mobo. I just put a Sound Blaster Live Dolby Digital in this system(from another system I have), to see if it made a difference. Guess what, the SB Live ran zero out of three tests. I could not find any DX9 drivers for the SB either.
I got my computer to just over 3300mhz, but it would not make it through the bench. 3200mhz is the best it gets. Still can not complain though, I got my moneys worth.--RH--
I have s SBAudigy2 w/ DX9 and it can only run 2 of 3 sound tests! :eek:
i reckon if u managed to run the third test u would get quite a few more points... what hope have we got if the audigy 2 cant even handle it??!?!?
The onboard sound with these top end asus boards is awesome!
i had artefacts too when i was running graphics too high so thats why clock came down to 360. can go higher but just looks ugly.
Has any one been able to run all three sound tests??
Got Onboard ASUS sound too (P4G8X Delux) it cant run 'em:(
It shold not surprise me that Sound Blaster cards do not run all of the tests. They make a pretty good product, but I think they are a little lazy on the driver issues. It may be the bench, but SB is still lazy lol:D
A couple of points:
Asus doesn't make any sound solutions, the best onboard sound on any of their boards is that in the nforce2 chipsets.
Also, only the four game tests contribute to the 3DMark03 score. Being able to do the last sound test won't add any points.
asus may not make sound solutions, but believe me, the soundmax audio kit thats bundled with mine supports 5.1 sound, and sounds as good as any sound card i've yet heard. It's no audigy 2 but then i never expected it to be ;) it even has this ai thing where it detects what has been plugged in!!
You have a little better sound then I do on mine(I notice yours looks like a newer version). The sound on the ASUS P4PE is still not that bad at all. I can not tell any difference between that and the Sound Blaster Live Digital Dolby that I have installed right now. Once in a while I may hear a small crackle or something of that nature.
My point is though, is that Creative is (this is my opinion), not that great on releasing decent drivers, or support at all. They have been on top too long. I wish another company would come along and kick their **** because of their lack of driver updates/support. Problem is, if you are a gamer like me, all games are going to support Creative first.
I have not heard the new cards by Creative, so what do I know lol--hey, I just like to complain, what can I say:D
if you're interested in kick *** sound, check out this stuff
cheaper than the audigy 2 platinum and the like, and gives it a good run for its money - 7.1 surround!!
the external options are also better for pro use than the extigy as they record in true 24/96.
rock on ;)
2.4 Pentuim 4
ATI Radeon 9800AGP
DemonExecuter, welcome to Sysopt. Turn off AA and AF.
Looks like a real nice card, and a very good price($90 at newegg w/free shipping). Reviews at newegg were mixed. Some said it was good for games, others not. I play a little guitar, and also have a Guitar Port by Line-6, so this may be what I want, when I decide to part with a bill that is. Any one have one, and also play games on it?? Any one have one and do any recording on it??
yea my bad about my mark scores... added a 1 at beginning =-P
but yea, anyone have any expierence with homemade watercoolers or phase change coolers? I want to get my Pent4 3.0 ghz 800FSB to about 3.5-4.5Ghz with a 1000-1500FSB, may seem a little unrealistic but phase change coolers do wonders if u know what I'm talking about... also wanna get me GeForceFX5900 card clocked near the 1ghz core and 1ghz memory mark... as to get some REALLY good scores... yea so drop me some info if u got any
what do you mean, Turn off AA and AF?????
ok, here it is....
nothing on my computer is overclocked or modified! don`t know how to do that stuff lol
2.4 ghz Pentium 4
128 DDR ATI Radeon 9800
Direct X 9.0
Creative SB Live! Series
7200 rpm-60gb hard drive
Resolution-1024 x 768
GT1 Wings of Fury 163.4 fps
GT2 Battle of Proxycon 31.0 fps
GT3 Trolls Lair 27.9 fps
GT3 Mother Nature 28.3 fps
CPU Tests Score 535
CPU Test 1- 58.6 fps
CPU Test 2- 9.7 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 1456.8 MT exels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 2241.0 MT exels/s
Vertex Shader 15.6 fps
Pixel Shader 2.0 41.5 fps
Ragtroll 20.1 fps
No Sounds 48.6 fps
24 Sounds 38.9 fps
60 Sounds 32.5 fps
is this a decent score????
That's pretty good, but it just goes to show you that RAM really counts, both on the gpu and the mainboard...I gotcha beat and my cpu is slower!
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe Rev 2.0 driver 1005 w/nforce2
AMD Athlon XP 2500+ Barton 333 fsb at 1.83 Ghz
2x 512 meg Geil PC3200 DDR 400 fsb (333 for this test) 1 gig total
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128 meg
120 gig WD ATA100 HDD w/ 8 meg cache
Chieftec Server Chassis with Austin/Foxconn 450 watt power supply
3D Mark 2003 vs 330
3D Mark 2001 SE latest patched
Nothing OC'ed and the barton is on Stock heatsink with stock fan, only thing changed is that I added Arctic Silver 3.
yeah, pretty good, i was thinking about getting the PC3200 ram for mine also. i just bought this computer 2 weeks ago, from Dell.
Dell often ships lower clocked GPUs than are sold retail, so you often pay the price of a 9800 Pro for a 9800 Non-pro, just like the Dell only 9700 TX with slower RAMDACs.
i didn`t pay more for my video card. i know how much i paid for everything.:)
I am sure you do. However, a quick look at Dell's Page did give me cause to question a couple of points.
Why do they charge extra for the DVI-VGA dongle? Also why is the card shipping with a 350MHz RAMDAC instead of the 400MHz RAMDACs common to most ATI retail cards?
Having said all that your system still crushes my Athlon thoroughly, I only get 3400 odd points tops. (1800+ XP/9500 Pro/256MB)
I have to agree with Rugor. Dell makes a good product, but it seems(at least with the Dell I bought a couple years back), that certain components(be it video cards, sound cards, what ever), are not the same in Dell form. I think(my opinion), they cut corners now and again. You still got what you paid for I am sure(as Dell has good prices, and what you got was a good score). --RH--
I was wondering, how did you enable hyperthreading. Was there an option in your bios, or did your system just see it when you booted with the HT cpu in it? My mobo is HT ready, but no option in bios(even with the 1005 bios, which is for the HT cpu).
if you're thinking of overclocking go for ddr3500 or even 3700 if your motherboard can handle it.
if you have the p4 3c chip (800mhz) you should be able to take it up to 3.6 by just adjusting the fsb, and perhaps knocking the voltage up a notch. Thats assuming of course you're motherboard will let it take it that far. :)
does anyone know what happens if im running dual channel memory, then decide to, lets say, add 1gb of ram to a third slot - although I could in fact run two sets of dual memory config. Will it hinder the performance of the original dual channel?
In the cpu section of the bios it has stats on the cpu, inc original clock and current clock, then it has a hyperthreading enable/disable option. I'm not sure whether this is a newer 865/875 option.
I need more ram, argh!!! :'(
update: after thinking about it, it's probably because your cpu doesnt support ht, so your option is perhaps disabled until you install one?
I built this computer last week. Just ran 3d Mark 2003 (latest build) with default settings on both 3d Mark and the video card.
Score was 5612
1 gig PC3200
Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb
Maxtor 80gig UATA/133
looks apretty decent score to me, thundarr, and welcome to sysopt.:t
thundarr--overclock that monster, lets see what she has. That is a good score.
DJ--Noticed something funny. I downloaded and ran the 3DMark2001SE and ran that(Posted in the 2001 section). When I cranked everything up to where I started getting artifacts in 2003, there were none in the 2001 mark. I found this a little odd?? Got any ideas?? I did pretty good with the 2001, considering I only have a 9500Pro. -RH-