3D Mark2001 - GeForce2 Ti, 2500

[silence]

Hello,
I have a quick question. Here is my system:
Duron 650Mhz
Gigabyte 7ZM mobo
384 SDRAM
MSI Geforce2 Ti

(nothing overclocked)

My 3Dmark2001 score was 2500-2600 on average.

Is there a possible bottleneck here?

Thanks for your time

[NDD]

Well, to begin utilizing GeForce2 Ti's potential, you'll need at least 1GHz processor (Intel or AMD, doesn't matter). Your Duron@650MHz is the most probable bottleneck here

[namrak]

Well, since you've only listed just a few components, I know that your mobo can use PC133, but you're using a Duron. You're probably on a 100 fsb. The quickest route is to flash your motherboard BIOS and then drop in one of the newer 1GHz+ Durons...maybe a 1.2 or 1.3? That should raise your 3DMark2001 scores over 6000. Depending on how much speed you want afterwards, you may decide to overclock your GeForce 2 and/or processor. Good luck!

[silence]

thanks ..

I'm looking into the 1.3Ghz Duron. However, the Gigabyte website doesn't post that the mobo supports 1.3Ghz Durons - only upto 1.1Ghz. -weird.

Does anyone know if the KT133 chipset supports the Morgan core CPUs fully? - still waiting for Gigabyte to reply my email.

[gibsinep]

The kt133 chipset doesnt support a 133mhz FSB, Since that 1.3 is a 133mhz FSB it wont work at it's full speed, But will run at 100xwhatever instead of 133xwhatever.


That is why it only supports up to 1.1 since that is the highest a 100mhz FSB will take it( I think).

[silence]

Originally posted by gibsinep
The kt133 chipset doesnt support a 133mhz FSB, Since that 1.3 is a 133mhz FSB it wont work at it's full speed, But will run at 100xwhatever instead of 133xwhatever.


That is why it only supports up to 1.1 since that is the highest a 100mhz FSB will take it( I think).

Unless I'm wrong, I thought the 1.3Ghz Duron still ran on a 100FSB (100*2) ?

[Terminator]

Why not save yourself money and clock that 650 Duron?? It should clock at least to 900MHz. My 600 Duron has been clocked (pencil trick) to 900Mhz for almost a year and no probs. Had it hit 1050MHz but went a wee bit too hot although it ran ok. Using and Asus A7V with the same KT133 chipset. Highest FSB it'll hit is 110MHz.
Your 650 Duron should hit at least 900 giving you almost 50% increase. Don't know if your Gigabyte board allows overclocking though by just reconnecting the L1 bridges.
Definitely your CPU bottlenecking.

T

[gibsinep]

Silence you may be right. I have been looking around the internet and for some reason cant find it.

I know that the t-bird stops with 100FSB ar around 1.13 or 1.2
so i thought the same for the duron.

[silence]

I was thinking of overlcocking it. Infact, I did try. I had connected and had cut all the correct bridges. In the process, my knife slipped and chipped a little piece of the CPU's center.
In short, it was an inch short of a disaster.
I booted the computer and got 650Mhz as the clock speed - no change!

I got a price quote from the store which told me $115CDN for a Duron1.3Ghz oem (approx $70USD) so I thought I'd look into it.



gibsinep, I'm pretty sure the FSB is 200fsb (100*2). Here is a site that lists the specs. http://www.geek.com/procspec/procspec.htm

[Terminator]

hi
Just re-read the AMD specs on the Duron. From the looks of it ALL Durons run at 100(200)FSB.

Model 3 Durons (codename Spitfires) were from 600MHz to 950MHz
Model 7 Durons(Codename Morgan) were from 1000MHz to 1300Hz

But like I said if you read the codes on the 1300MHz Duron it translates as 200MHz FSB.

I assume from the fact that you need to cut contacts on your Duron your Gigabyte board doesn't have the magic switches. Pretty sure slicing a bit off the core scared you....
More likely that its uncut contacts thats stopping you clocking the chip....remember AMD use CO2 lasers to cut em!!!!

At the price the low end Durons are selling for they are almost dispoable...lol

Anyway, pretty sure a 1.3gig Morgan will see your score jump heaps... Personally I'd buy a 1gig and clock it

Just one more thing.... at 1.3gig the morgan draws 60watts??? which is ALOT so better check on you heatsink and power supply.


T

[silence]

My heatsink is alright. I'm using a Volcano7.
But I'm worried about my 250W power supply!

[gibsinep]

Your PS may work.

I had a 230watts ps in my case. It ran

1.33t-bird
2 7200RPM drives
geforce 2
AK75-EC mobo
52X cd rom
24x-10x-40x burner
modem
network card


All that only on a 230 watt!

I changed to a 350watt since i was buying some fans, Geforce 3 ti 200, and plaining on overclocking.