Why Intel?

[AndreRIO]

If Amd is Faster and Cheaper, Why Then Computer Manufactures Choose Intel?

[Jimstep]

Marketing!!! I've worked in the IBM mainframe world all my work life. Other vendors have come and gone with superior tehcnical equipment, but IBM know's how to market their product.

On the other hand, Intel would be monopolistic without AMD out there.

[travis296]

brand name recognition. people buy pentium

[muchmark]

In business reliability and compatibility are more cost effective in the long run. IMHO

Mark

[Mindwarp]

As Jimstep said, MARKETING!!! People buy what the marketing people sell better. And some people had bad experiences with AMD with their K6-2 series when the system builders started using cheap boards like some early PC CHIPS boards that only lasted for a few months and then burned. And some even didn't put the thermal paste between the chip and the heat sink, with the resultant death by heat.
If you go to most of the forums in the internet, and go to the real benchmarking sites you will see AMD winning Intel in almost every aspect.

Even to build a computer it is cheaper in AMD.

I compared the price of making the best combo of board, processor and memory, but also in the same brand, I used mwave.com as a comparison site.

With Gygabite boards
GIGABYTE 8ITX3; INTEL PENTIUM 4 2.0G - 423; 256MB NON-ECC RDRAM X 2; ASSEMBLE/TEST BUNDLE= $776

GIGABYTE 7DXR-Specs; AMD ATHLON XP 1800+; MWAVE 256MB NON-ECC PC2100; ASSEMBLE/TEST BUNDLE= $339

And the AMD will beat the P4 2.0 anytime they pair them

[Cryo]

"In business reliability and compatibility are more cost effective in the long run."


Mmmm.... A very unconvincing argument you have there. Anybody with a fair amount of computer knowledge knows that this is not an issue.

Both platforms (AMD/Intel) offer equal reliability and compatibilty.

[ngc457]

Marketing isn't the only thing. I was at my local computer store that builds great computers. They are the best and most honest in town. They only buid Intel. I asked why. They said AMD has a heat problem. If the fan stops the CPU is dead and possibly other parts. Also the hot CPU can scramble data on the hard drive. That is true but we all know that if the fan is good and one blows dust out of the fan every now and then you shouldn't worry. Also many motherboards will can be set to shut down if the CPU gets hot but not to hot.
However it is an issue that builders know about and I think it would be in AMD's best interest if they made CPU's throttle down if they over heat like Intel chips do.

[[shawn@localhost /home]#]

the perfect design would be for the chip to throttle down ONLY WHEN NOT USED, a program demands 20% power so it will run at 20% and not be hot but if you are playin Diablo2 or something where it is always 100% it should stay 100% and be the responsibility of the user to determine whether its good to play or not

[RayH]

Like Microsoft sofware, volume purchasers of microprocessors don't pay anywhere near what you and I pay for these items. When AMD gave them a price edge, they used AMD. Intel probably gave them a significant discount to be the sole vendor!

But as for corporate purchasers, they probably go with Intel because if things go awry, they don't have to take the heat! For large companies, downtime can be expensive. You recommend a Dell, HP, or Compaq with Windows and the thing crashes, you're *** is covered! You recommend a white box with an AMD running Linnux, even though such a setup may actually be better and less expensive, you're *** could be hash!

[[shawn@localhost /home]#]

i dont know about running Linux though
Linux is all cool but its really hard to figure out.

this may be my chance to find something out here.... ok which partitions need to be biggest?
there is the / partition and the /usr partitions and some other ones, is there just some simple way to setup the partitions?

next question, why would you get Linux if there are no games for it? i can understand getting Linux to run your game server or for doing some home C++ developement because its easy but have you ever actaully read the process on converting a Windows game to Linux? its like really really complicated man

[RayH]

Right now, Linnux is still in the geek stages. It's not really a consumer friendly option. It may not become so unless there is a conscious revolt against Microsoft's pricing policy!

Understand the X box is very important to Microsoft. It is really a "home computer' disguised as a toy. It's to help launch the consumer .NET initiative! Sony is going to issue a Linnux attachment to the PS2.

A generation ago; even a few years ago, people didn't know what they wanted a home computer for. It was something that was invented and a need later found. Today, there is a greater understanding of what people need. For home, it's really a toy that's capable of doing some business apps! That's the general use. If Sony is successful in training the next generation in Linnux, Microsoft may be in trouble!

[[shawn@localhost /home]#]

well i dont buy console games anymore so im not exactly supporting MS financialy but i like giving moral support to Linux but jeez you have to admin Linux is HARD and confusing to use

just a questsion, if you had dual hard drives how the hell would you tell which hard drive you have your information on in Linux??? if the root directory is / and most files are under /usr but the hard drive is classed as being /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 then which hard drive does this **** actually save to? how could you even tell?

[ill-logix]

rayh YOU MAKE AN EXCELLENT POINT..... =)

[Kurylo]

People (and me too) buy Intel because of stability, power and brandname.

[mcooper]

shawn: First of all, when you create your partitions, you will know where the data goes because you will tell it. If you forget, type 'mount' and it will show you. FYI, /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 are both either primary or swap partitions on the primary IDE master. /dev/hdbx, /dev/hdcx, /dev/sdax, /dev/sdbx would be additional hard drives.
Secondly, linux administration is far from HARD! It may be different, and therefore have a new learning curve. I find it to be far simpler and less stressful than M$ because there is nothing I cannot do and cannot script.
And last, checkout www.transgaming.com, www.lokigames.com, and www.linuxgames.com for gaming info. If it won't work in linux, it's not good enough for me. Plus, there are infinitely more ways to keep entertained in linux as opposed to M$, in my opinion (not that I've used M$ for entertainment in recent years).