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  1. #886
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    Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
    What do you mean "higher res"? 3dmark is always run at 1024 x 768, at least for comparitive purposes.

    The 9500 is an excellent card. Don't be fooled by the relatively low 3dmark score.

    Just for fun, I turned on 6x anti aliasing and 16x AA filtering, and loaded up quake at 1024 x 768 (limit of friend's monitor). It was quite smooth, and I'm sure my ti4200 wouldn't have been, if it could even do 6x anti aliasing and 16x AA.

    Giblet -- I DARE you. Get a utility called Atuner. It allows you to set unofficial AA and Aniso levels on your GF4 card. 8x antialiasing -- watch it crawl in DX7 games!

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    Originally posted by dragflameson
    Back to the original post,

    Athlon XP 2200
    ASUS A7V266-E
    256MB RAM
    80GB HDD

    GeForce 4 Ti 4200 @ 300 core clock and 560 memory clock

    just under 11,000 3DMarks




    My next card will deffently be an ATI (RADEON probably).


    Drag
    I would stay with geforce my 4600 wasn't as fast as the ati 9700
    But alot better for gaming.

    overclock your system and the geforce just steps right up to plate (much better heatsink less noise from the fans)
    ATI 9700 overclock the system and you need overclock the ati and find the sweet spot to be stable while on-line gaming.......big pain in the *****.

    going back to leadtek geforce FX as soon as they come.

    I don't want to fight with anyone the ATI is way faster just not better.

    My old card .......I miss it sold it to my brother
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    her ar my scores and a link for it to
    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5775974

    Sys Specs
    Athlon XP 2400+ at 2263 mhz
    512 megs of OCZ PC 3500
    Abit KX7 333 Raid
    Leadtek TI 4400 at 325 core and 680 mem
    4 x 60 gigs Maxtor ATA 133 7200 RPM set up in raid 0
    Sound Baster Live 5.1
    3 Com 905B nic
    ATI TV Wonder PCI
    Plextor CDRW
    Pioneer DVD
    Enermax 465 watt powersupply
    all in Koollance PC 2 water cooled case
    Last edited by AthlonXPpowered; 01-29-2003 at 07:28 AM.

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    what FSB you running there AthlonXPpowered??
    Finally got my friend's 2nd 2400+ chip for his vapochill... (if you dont know... don't ask... )
    got the thing in now.. WITH the Asetek shim on it.. and hit 2.44 GHz with a core temp of 2°C
    running on a 180MHz FSB it is very nice.. (hit 200 the other day, HDD corrupted ) will be trying to get the 200 again without HDD problems.. then there will be a 3DMark here from that system.
    GF4 Ti4600 (waiting on new peltier, waterpump, resivoir - al lthe other ones died.. even the resivoir!!! - perspex one that developed cracks somehow...)

    was Sandra benching it and it was twice as fast as a P4 2GHz... (rated as an XP 3100+) so me likes this system!

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    Originally posted by Beast_USA


    I would stay with geforce my 4600 wasn't as fast as the ati 9700
    But alot better for gaming.

    overclock your system and the geforce just steps right up to plate (much better heatsink less noise from the fans)
    ATI 9700 overclock the system and you need overclock the ati and find the sweet spot to be stable while on-line gaming.......big pain in the *****.

    going back to leadtek geforce FX as soon as they come.

    I don't want to fight with anyone the ATI is way faster just not better.

    My old card .......I miss it sold it to my brother
    Beast_USA,

    Exactly, I want better! Thats why my next card (depending on time) will be an ATI.


    Drag

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    I am running it at 181 mhz FSB x 12.5 in a KoolLance PC-2 water cooled case

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    id just like to make the point on this forum that massive scores are not essential

    my system (see bottom) cost about £150 to build, and it gets a 3DMark2001SE score of !300!
    (no thats not a typo , 3 hundred!)

    this may sound **** but i can still play new games if i set the detail down to rock-bottom

    but dont worry, im not keeping it. im gonna sell it and build myself a new one based around the AthlonXP 2200 - any tips send 'em to me!



    Duron 945mhz
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    crappy beige case
    nice 17" monitor
    SWEET speakers (keep them!)

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    email is drachir49@hotmail.com

    btw, any recommends for best air cpu socket A cooler?
    money no object, middle and budget please!

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    Originally posted by ichorid
    ...my system (see bottom) cost about £150 to build, and it gets a 3DMark2001SE score of !300!
    (no thats not a typo , 3 hundred!)
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    I suggest looking for a video card such as a Geforce3 Ti to boost performance. Your system may be under powered for a g4.

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    Ichorid, you will probably get a lot of response! Well if you don't already have a 2200, most new ones will be T-breds, which I understand run a little cooler than the Palamino 2200's. It will be a 266 FSB. Memory is really the next big step in your planning (some say first step) If you are going to keep the system a long while and not modify it much then PC 2100 (DDR266) will do fine just make sure its CAS2 rated. If you might upgrade your CPU in a year or so, it would likely have a 333 FSB and you should have PC 2700 (DDR333) for the best match (Its not much more than PC2100 ...Still Cas2)
    It might be possible to move to a 400 FSB in lessthan a year then you'd want PC 3200 CAS 2 (DDR400) and if you get into overclocking then a higher speed. To switch to a higher speed costs a good bit more so get the one you want for the longer term.
    Mobo Get a N force 2, I think most will recommend ASUS, but really any full featured board will do ( If a manufacturer makes two or three get the one with onboard lan, more USB etc) It doesn't matter much how many PCI slots (5 or 6) as you'll not likely need more than three if you go wild with stuff.
    Most N Force 2 motherboards support 200, 266, 333, and 400 FSB's so it has a lot of growth potential.
    The most overlooked part is the Power supply. In Europe there are many I am not familiar with so no recomendation, but you shoud research this! Serious now get a good PSU!
    Video Card : I would get a ATI 9500 Pro, as the best current value to performance combo At this time
    If keeping your Hard drive, best to reformat it prior to loading the system. All your drivers will be different and you will go crazy trying to use one with a system already installed.
    New hard drive as long as its a recently released model its hard to miss with any of them (I'm speaking IDE here) most like the 8 meg Buffers.
    I like a floppie drive, but some don't. They are cheap and come in handy for boot disks and other utilities.
    Optical drives get what you like. If a CD-ROM Research all burners, CD or DVD.
    Hope this is a starting point and welcome to Sysopt
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    Ichorid for a cooler I recommend Vantec, I have a 6040 and it is good, but their Areo line with the TMD fans are super. Budjet buy your 2200 in retail box, you not only get a 3 year warranty, but a good cooler. AMD puts much better coolers in the box than they used to. This cooler is commercially available with a different Fan. use of a good thermal paste like Articsilver 3 is recommended over the Thermal pad on the stock cooler. There are a bunch of good coolers out there now!
    Rig 1, MSI K9A2 Platinum, 6400 Blackie, 2 X 2048 AData, MSI 3870; Rig 2, MSI K9A2 CF, 5000 Blackie, 2 X 1024 Patriot PC6400, ATI X1900 XT, Rig 3, Abit AN8 Fatal1ty, Opteron 185, 2 X 1024 Corsair PC3200C2PT ATI X1950 XTX Rig 4 Abit UL8 3800 X850 Pro

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    Originally posted by ichorid
    email is drachir49@hotmail.com

    btw, any recommends for best air cpu socket A cooler?
    money no object, middle and budget please!
    Thermalright SLK-900s are out now!

    http://www.thermalright.com/slk900.html
    This is where my signature would go if I wasn't so lazy.

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    Yep-- those actually come out at the top.

    Gib-H2O system up yet?

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    Nope, I need two more fittings and four more screws. I ripped the 3 1/2 bays out of my Chieftec to make room for my 9.5 x 5.125 x 2 " heatercore.

    I've been pretty busy/sick for the last week, so not much has happened. Now I'm a week behind in Calc, and I have 2 Science Olympiad projects to work on.

    Darn extracurriculars!
    This is where my signature would go if I wasn't so lazy.

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    3D mark 2001 1024 x768 32 bit: 5978

    GeForce 4 mx 440 ocd from 270\400 to 320\460

    xp1600@(1.4) to xp1800@(1.55)

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