It was not clear if the older HP-UX was based on Linux or some flavor of UNIX, but what is clear is that HP is serious about selling Linux now -and at $3000 a pop!
The new security features sound excelent, although I suspect very similar enhancements are already available for Linux to those with a little know-how and the patients to search for them.
More power to HP!
Thanks for alternatives.
BBA - H-PUX might be YOU'RE de-facto Unix standard. Here ours is AIX; much more stable & secure than any of our H-PUX boxes.
Anyway, it's always good to see corporate muscle behind Linux. But $3000 ?? Come on HP, get real. No-one is going to shell out $3000, when other distros are freely available.
I wish I could take a product that thousands of other programmers spent their valuable time developing, make some small changes, like add HP onto the front of the name of LINUX, pay nothing for it and sell it for $3000 a pop. I guess good old Bill.G has taugt them what you can get away with in business but that doesn't make it right. Once again the big players exploit the small but technically clever ones to make a quck and unjustified dollar and show theyre not prepared to share the wealth - but keep it to their greedy selves. TYPICAL
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Something is amiss about that article. We have been using HPUX for years and years on our servers. It's pretty much the defacto standard in secure Unix systems.
Maybe ther article is saying HP is selling a "NEW" line of it's existing Unix and ommitting the "existing" part?
$3000? You've got to be kidding me. For under 900, I can build a 1GHZ system, with far more than HP probably puts into thier boxes, load it up with Mandrake 8.0 or RedHat on there and still most likely have more hardware support than the distro that HP has compiled. Talk about capitalism rearing it's ugly head. Tell me one thing. Are these systems any different than the Windows loaded HP counterparts? Any better hardware at all?? Probably not. No thank you HP. I'm running Win98 on one drive, and Win2000 and Linux dual booted on another. Sell your product to some other shmuck whos mindless enough to buy it.
Well, there is actually no direct mention of specific hardware in the article. I don't think that price includes an actual server. The idea I got from reading it was that HP intends on selling an ultra secure server version of Linux -kind of like Win2K/Exchange Enterprise Server on steroids (which isn't hard for Linux).
Here is a quote: "
HP will sell its version of Linux for about $3,000 per server and begin shipping the product next week, according to the representative.
The HP Linux will come with a "virtual compartment" that helps prevent unauthorized communication between programs, networks, and files. This feature should lower security risks for users managing information with different sensitivity levels on the same server.
The new software will also come with a detection system for alerting administrators about hacking attempts and a containment feature that locks a hacked program, preventing it from damaging applications or launching other attacks, according to HP.
Ok...the difference was Linux...not Unix, the former of which HP has been selling for years.
As for he who thinks he can make a GHz Server for $900 does not know anything about business/mainframe networks. I am sure you can make home/hobby/gamer server with linux fairly cheaply, but try selling a multibillion dollar company on that system...they will laugh at you.
You cant even buy some of the SCSI controllers that come with these for under $900. At those are even at good prices.
There IS a difference in both hardware and support. ( Since when did about overnight you a 3 year old motherboard under warrenty? ) Do you recieve Linux monthly updates from the supplier?
These are not hobby level OS's being sold for $3000.
Big business has more money than brains. I worked for GM where EDS was the supplier of all computers for them. General Motors owns EDS. They paid up to 10 times the price that anybody else could make the same product. I don't know about making a server for $900, but it wouldn't be far off. Big business gets ripped off every day, but they don't care since they write it all off. Also they can get a lot of equipment, and not pay for 90 days. Small computer makers can't wait that long to get paid.
Maybe someone should price a rack mount quad xeon P4 server with SCSI U3/160 Raid5 ( 128M cache controller ) 10000/15000 RPM drives
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