Dell surveys customers: do you prefer AMD?
I would buy AMD becaus of price and performance.
I'd definitly go with AMD because it performs just as well, if not better then Intel and it is just so much cheaper.
As a loyal Dell customer, I feel it would be a bright move to offer a choice of which processor you want in your system. I think it would definately boost both company and customer morale.
T-Bird all the way baby!
My 1,100 just hums right along.
Why don't they offer choice of mobos too, huh?
Just one of the many reasons why I decided to build my own (2 PC's) this time around. I know everything that is installed and what and how everything was loaded up.
[This message has been edited by Steve_Jr (edited 06-30-2001).]
I like them both. Intel and AMD each make exceptional processors. I think we need to realize that a CPU is not the component that makes or breaks a system's overall performance. With the prices so low on massive amounts of memory, large-fast hard disks, and blazing fast video adapters, I tell friends - this is a very good time to build a computer.
However, I usually go with AMD CPUs because the price/performance ratio is a little better for a general purpose computer and I can put my customer's money into other system components.
My perception of AMD is that they offer better performance at lower cost than Intel, but they also run hotter, consume more power, have a more fragile core, and suffer more compatability problems than Intel.
I'll stick with Intel for now. I've always valued quality and stability over price and performance.
That survey is actually bugged, Dputigar posted a good link in the forum which explains how but the news article is no longer on the Front page. This news article is from www.amdzone.com and is written by Chris Tom
Check out this e-mail about the Dell survey I got. I removed the html code, but you can get the idea from the description.
Chris - You're not going to believe this one. On Dell's survey, the radio buttons are screwed up for Questions 2 and 3. You can only select one button ACROSS THE TWO QUESTIONS! So, if question 2 you say you most prefer the Athlon, and question 3 you say you least prefer the Pentium 4, and you answer in that order, than only Pentium 4 will be registered in the question. Moreover: That's question 2: "If you were purchasing a new personal computer for your household today, which one of the following processors would you MOST prefer and why? (Please select one)" And this is Question 3: "If you were purchasing a new personal computer for your household today, which one of the following processors would you LEAST prefer and why? (Please select one)" Note my browser, IE5, will only give you one radio button for each NAME attribute. Since both most and least have the same NAME="most_prefer", despite one question being most and one least, that only the second one will be recorded in the system!!! Moreover, look at the 11-point divvy: Again, both boxes have the same NAME, so only one is being sent, and THERE IS NO W3C STANDARD WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE TWO IN THIS FORM, IT IS CONSIDERED MALFORMED. THE BROWSER CAN SEND WHATEVER IT WANTS, OR BOTH, IN ANY ORDER. I guess you're right. Dell is a bunch of ****-ups. Or a bunch of people who are trying to rig the **** out of a survey. >:-# ----- Steven B. Lewis
DEFINATELY AMD. Cost/Performance being the primary issue, but also better R&D and engineering. I recently read a "propeller-head" 8- article about the internal workings of P4 vs T-Bird... well, let's just say there IS no comparison! (See: http://www.emulators.com/pentium4.htm )
I have built several systems over the years, most recently a T-Bird 1.2Ghz w/200Mhz FSB. Wanna talk *FAST*??? I will use nothing BUT AMD chips in any and all future systems I build, and will always heartily recommend them. It's simply a better product.
I would definitely use AMD due to price and performance issues. BUT the majority of consumers will buy the Intel if they have a choice because they have never heard of AMD. If you asked most people for their preference they would look at you like you wanted to know the distance in millimeters to the sun. Always remember that this forum certainly does not represent the "average" pc buyer or user.
AMD becase price and performence
Think about this for a second. Yes, Dell does get a special deal if they buy only from Intel. This means that if they bought AMD's it would void the contract with Intel. This in turn would raise the price of computers because Intel machines would cost more because the contract is null. Now you might say "Well, it wouldn't matter if Intel raised the price because AMD's are cheap and people would just buy those." This has a few problems. One of which is Windows is built around Intel chip architecture. Yes, AMD's work fine if not better, but this would mean they would also have to buy different Ram types because AMD's and Intel P4's bother use different RAM then previous chips or each other. This would mean Dell would have to buy more RAM which means higher prices all around. Plus only Intel chips can be used in multi-processor computers that want to run Windows NT4, 2000, and XP. It says this specifically in all of their manuals. There might be ways around this, but Microsoft intends it to be used with Intel for multi-possessing. It would be nice to have AMD because they are cheaper and do out perform the Intel chips alot, but we have to look at the larger scope of things.
AMD Definately, no problems with stability, price is better, performance is better in most apps, uses PC2100 Mem which is a lot cheaper then RDRAM taht P4 uses meaning better systems for same price.
AMD does have multiprocessor technologies, and when those manuals were written they didn't.
Wizzard Of Ozz
Umm... AMDs have improved much since the original Atholon. My system has never gone above 97F (Duron 800 evcen w/overclocking). I don't trust intel. Their systems are above double the price of a good AMD. So what is the P4 1.7 is faster than the AMD 1.33? Do you really want to pay $600 for JUST a processor and a good heatsink for em (you think Atholons are bad?). I can build a whole computer for $600 out of a TBird, MSI mobo, Phrophrt 4500, 32x cdrom, 1.44 floppy, case, 300w PS, 20GB hdd, and still have money left over (abiet not much). PS, anyone know when Sledge's release date is?
I love my Dell PII @400. I bought it about 3 years ago. It's the most stable system I have ever used. Their computer cases are extremely well designed.
When I was in the market for a new PC last month, I did not even consider Dell. They lost my business by not offering an AMD system.
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