PIII vs Celeron

[JBilbao]

Hi. Quick question...
Which is faster a Celeron 1.1GHz or a P3-800EB?
Where can I get results?

Thanks.

[LostBok]

Interesting question.... I forget, is the 800EB a 133Mhz FSB or 100Mhz?

Either way I should imagine the Celeron can outpace the P3 in sheer number crunching, however the P3 does have more cache and does have SSE on its side - I think you'd find the P3 would pull level or slightly ahead with some applications, but the fact that the Celeron is a third quicker in clock-speed would probably mean it would be the faster. Are these two identical spec machines you're comapring or different boxes or are you looking to upgrade your CPU?

[Banti]

P3 letters

E= .18 micron
B=133 FSB
EB= Both

Banti

[NDD]

Celeron 1.1GHz uses Coppermine128 core, hence, it supports SSE.
1.1GHz/100MHz FSB Celeron would be faster then 800MHz/133MHz FSB PentiumIII EB.

Best Regards ...

[LostBok]

ND, so let me get this straight.... the only differences between Celeron128's and PIII's are more cache (128k for coppermine, 384k for Tualatin) and a slightly faster BUS speed?

[LostBok]

I thought it was only the Celeron II's that used SSE, but the pre-cache Celeron's and Celeron A's (original 128k cache) did not...
not sure about the earlier FC-PGA Celeron's though...

You're probably right though
I've not been looking that closely at CPU's for a while now...

If that be the case, I should be able to put two Celeron 800's or 1Ghz's on riser-cards and then into my old dual-BX motherboard and they should work fine - my mobo did definitely take the CeleronA's...


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[otheos]

Sorry, but the only celerons that will work on SMP are the older (up to 533Mhz). Celeron II have their SMP disabled so I guess you're back to P3.

[LostBok]

Thanks Otheos.... my credit-card's been burning a hole in my pocket all morning and I've keyed in that Scan phone number a few times today already (I find web-ordering too easy and highly addictive).... I was SOOOOO close to ordering a pair of Celery 800's (£47+VAT) and the riser cards.... I was sure they'd work.... are you sure the newer Celeron's are non-MP?? Why did they disable that?

[otheos]

I am positive I'm affraid.

Why they disabled it? So that you buy a P3 of course!

[LostBok]

Ok, thanks... saved me a lot of frustration and heart-ache.... I guess

Please, don't take offence, but I'm putting a topic out asking what the story is... just hoping somebody has some brain-waves... or cunning plans for these, otherwise I reckon its off to a dual Athlon once th emobo's come down in price... the CPU's are SO much cheaper and also faster than their equivalent PIII's... somehow I'm expecting Intel to be quite greedy when those Tualatin core PIII's hit the mass-market... not theat I'm a pessimist or anything

Is it s pin-disable or have they actually disabled something on the chip? I'd be running these in a BX Slot1 mobo initially, so could mess around with the riser cards quite a bit

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[otheos]

No offence taken, I know exactly the feeling! (ok sure, but has anyoned tried it??)

That's the fun of it!

[LostBok]

Hellmund backed you up and then dug out some article from RobRich about it all... looks liek you're right... I'm not gonan try it now, but could well have a go when I've got money to burn and a LOT of time to dig around for the more detailed CPU specs...

Or I could just buy the riser cards and then try to persuade two friends to upgrade to the same speed Celeron2's at the same time, just so that I can test them first... bit of a long shot, but the only way its gonan happen at the moment!

[Gaston]

Celeron 800 has 10ns clock period
PIII at 133FSB has 7.5ns for executing

[k00lhand]

Try this site for more info; http://www.tomshardware.com/

Go to Tom's Guide click on CPU and get everything you need to know!

G'Day Luke.

[ticktack]

I think previosuly I read from a review testing these 2 CPU; Celeron600 & PIII600E, both were similar close in results obtain, thus if now with the better FSB at 100Mhz, I feels that that this Celeron 1.2 surely surpassed even the PIII-1GHz!