Justin Mello murder case
Where I live in Michigan, a young man by the name of Justin Mello was killed in a robbery at the place he worked. It was the first murder in about 50 years in that city. At first the poliece and fbi blamed 3 kids for the robbery and murder. Then a few weeks later one of them was cleared of the charges. Now a few months later after the fbi and police got confessions out of the 2 guys who they said did it, were cleared of all charges because 2 other people who are from the same area but went on a 25 state crime & murder spree admitted that they were the ones who did it and they have no idea who these other kids are that the police and fbi got to confess. The 2 guys who did do the robbery/murder told the fbi a whole bunch of details that the other kids did not know. So my question is how many people go to prision each year because of the police or fbi badgering them so so much that they supposdely admit to the crimes. I think there should be a law against authority figures doing that.
and i feel for the family of Justin Mello because this is draggin out too much.. Plus Justin was only 16.
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I dont like the idea of the FBI, a government agency with the power to do what they want. well within certain perimeters. Luckily over here we only have the police Mi5 and Scotland yard. Who aren't really that scary.
I read your post, and I ask you please - use the freedom of info act, and check out some of the real, not reported facts of the case. Did you know the jerk that confessed to killing Justin passed the polygraph, except for the question of knowing the two who had been accused of the murders. This was inconclusive. The facts that were given at the time of the supposed "coerced confession," hold a lot of information that could not have been known by any one that wasn't involved. I do believe the confessions should have been tape - I'm still wondering about them being forced - I'm more afraid though that too many people believe the news print without question.
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I'll take two... CPU's
Ok...what about the guy who was framed for murder...by the FBI...and left in prison for 30 some odd years...despite the fact the FBI knew all along WHO the real murderer was?
Any response to refute the fact of this question is ignorant.
Leonard Peltier? Still in prison as far as I know.
Hey I have ran into problems with the same local police as did the people who got let off. They said they smelled Marijuana in my car. The searched the car and found nothing.... So they called in the k-9 unit and the dog didnt mark on anything. So they turned my headlights on to see if they work, blinkers and reverse lights. One of my reverse lights were out so thats what i got a ticket for. But the whole time they were searchin my car they were telling me "tell us where it is now or you could get all or your belongings including your car forfited to the police" They kept stressing that. And boy did they have a attidue when all they could get me on is defective equiptment (which all i have to do is fix it and the ticket is waved)
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I can almost one-up that last one. I got pulled over for robbing a church . My car was in the shop and I was coming home from a friends house in my dad's pickup truck when this cop car coming in the other direction made a sudden U-turn and pulled into traffic right up my *****. So he kept tailing me until I got so pissed off I was about to pull over flashing lights or no, but the instant I started to pull the turn signal lever, he turned on his lights. Guy came up to me being all surly and whatnot, asked for my license and registration, then pulled a gun and asked me what I was reaching for when I reached to the glovebox to get the registration/insurance information. Then they searched the back of the truck without even asking me anything. I didn't say a word however, because it was perfectly ok with me if they wanted to dig through 2 weeks worth of our trash that had been back there (under a camper top) in the summer sun for a while...
Anyhow, they didn't find any stolen candlesticks or whatever they were looking for, they didn't even apologize for making me stop for almost an hour and talking like I was some kind of criminal. The description of the getaway vehicle? A truck with a camper top on it, no color or anything. No suspicious activity at all, just that I was young and therefore guilty. Good thing I'm not black.
I agree with all of what you have said, but each case has to be looked at individually.
The police in this case, and the neighboring towns are pathetic - agreed. They like to pick on certain people - agreed. I'm just saying that there were facts no one knows about, and reasons why the two were being held. I do not believe the full truth will ever be known here. And there are things that were in the press that was pure bull.But many people in this area were to quick to believe the local papers. There are some key people we have not heard anything from. And there are and were reasons why. I don't know if the two were there or not - can anyone say for certain at this point-but there are still a whole lot of things here that we will never know. If there is blame to be placed WHY is the place of business open today. Some blame needs to be placed with the owner of that business - but no one has heard any thing in the press about the fact he had a 16 year old there that shouldn't have been. The whole thing angers me....the police, the paper...but especially the owner who just went back to business as usual, and the people that will still go to that place of business. I won't!
Yesterday's Times Herald News Paper, (St. Clair County), just adjacent to where mello was killed had a poll on wether or not police interviews should be video taped or not. The only person who said "no" was a local school administrator. Makes me very angry/sad to see how people think they can take away other peoples rights and get away with it. The school systems here are just as bad as the law enforcement.
Don't even take me there golfcart...our school districts here......!!!!!! You really don't want me to start on this, I would need pages.......
HI there lemonhead excuse mem, but did you say police MI5 and Scotland Yard Ė not scary, - I donít want to dissolution you, about our brave men in blue but I beg to differ. Have you not seen all these releases just lately of innocent people, you surely donít think that they were accidents do you.
And what about poor Stephen kisko, it was proved at his appeal, that the police deliberately with held medical evidence at his trial that would have proved him innocent He was mentally retarded, sterile, and sexually impotent. The police stood back and did nothing while he was imprisoned for 16 years, getting the hell kicked and punched out of him out of him for raping and murdering a young girl, then to die 12 months after being released. Not scary did you say Ė I am glad I donít live in your neighbourhood that must be some tough place. And lemon I could tell you a lot more.
Actually lemon I had a very good site regarding British miscarriages of justice, it was shut down twice by the last conservative Government, but it seems to have gone off my favourites list, if I find it I will post it you.
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