Your Job, is management fair and equal ??

[Richard_Cranium72]

At my job we have a saying ==>> "Those who can, DO. Those who can't, TEACH. Those who can't teach, MANAGE." This is the most accurate statement reagarding my company I've heard. The best hardest workers are allowed to do it all, the deadbeats are sooner or later found a desk to occupy. Oh, I forgot, in order to be a deadbeat you have to meet certain criteria. The spec is "29" Vacuum on a Screen Wire Porch.." Be the boss' pal and you got it made in the shade.. thanks for the bandwidth.. DrVette

[BBA]

I think all the Boss's I come into contact with at my job are very fair and reasonable.

I guess a mortgage industry owned by Australians is a good place for moral.

[noresull]

Lets see, I've worked at 5 Ford dealerships, and all but 1, the management was only interested in the bottom line, nothing else.

My new Job, I'm working at a scrap yard, repairing cranes and heavy equipment, 3/4 of the employees are related, all from the little peons to management, the problem for me is, I'm not related to anyone there, and I'm usually one of the first to get thrown under the bus, which is why I have the post college

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[desmocat]

My immediate manager is very fair, will not ask anybody to do things he woldn't do, and he fully supports my trying to get my CCNA cert even though it means I will be moving to another career. His boss (my genral MICROmanager) is a spineless jellyfish that makes everyone in my department wear a pager with no extra compensation, constantly getting called in on your day off, but HE doesn't have to wear one type. I got the last laugh, My pager is taped to the inside of my locker for the next 2 weeks,(on vacation!!) and my answering machine suddenly went in the shop.
God bless caller I.D!!

[Mr Twobit]

I'm a retired Coal Miner, LU#1825. Spent 23 years in the coal fields. I'm definitly PRO Labor. I decided when I retired, I would NEVER work for another Corporation. The most horrible phrase in the English language is "Human Resources"! It used to be 'Personnel', but has degenerated into how they really feel about their workers.....human resources!!!!
Solidarity Forever!

[welsh wizard]

I am not sure I should comment, being the founder,owner and boss.
but if you can't respect those who work for you then you should either have never employed them or should not be in a possition to have employed them, treat your workers good, and be honest with them and it's amazing how they pull round to help when you have troubles, so they deserve the same back.
Just my 2c worth.
WW

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[U-96]

My direct line manager is the fairest boss I have ever had. She can be a bit loopy sometimes, but most of the time makes good calls and is very professional.
Can't say the same for out department head though. Surfs the web all day, long lunches at the pub, feet on the desk (we run an 'open' office where clients can walk in).
He just went abroad with a proposal for a client which may get us a grant worth several million dollars for a new building. He phoned yesterday from the airport hotel to tell us he had lost the specially-commissioned-for-this-bid architect's drawings. Make your own mind up. Dilbert's PHB anyone?

U-96

[CMonster]

I never met a boss I couldn't get on the inside of, that doesn't mean I liked them, but I go to work to "get the job done." Some consider that @$$ kissing but I learned a long time ago that it is better not to buck the system - sometimes it sucks - live with it, work around it, or move on.

Perhaps some of you can imagine what it is like to have to scan a #$%^%^ F#<|<i$& barcode every single time you finsih a repair job, or go to lunch, or do anything else - and have your time reviewed each day by your supervisor, who incidentally doesn't have to scan anything...? For two years I worked repairing and installing specialty vehicle equipment for LAPD vehicles and that is precisely what we had to do.

I'll tell you who I want to strangle; that <0<|< $#<|<in& little IS/IT/programer brainiac bass*tard who dreamed up having employees scan barcodes - let him scan those #$%^%^$%ing bar codes!!!!!! Do doctors scan barcodes for surgical labor? Do the mayor or city council members scan barcodes to account for their time... and they wonder why so many people are leaving (like I did)... I'll tell you what, if I could take the person responsible for the barcode/labor thing to an LAPD garage there wouldn't be anything left big enough to identify the guy!!@

[desmocat]

cool *^&%$*^&% cmonster!LMAO..now quit holding back and tell us how you really feel

[tonym]

What's the difference between an ***-kisser and a brown-noser?

Depth perception!


Most bosses that I had were fair-minded individuals who were interested in getting the job done. The problem that I encountered with "management" was that there were so many layers, all working at odds with each other. Consequently, my direct boss (where I formerly worked) NEVER gave me a review, never gave me a raise, never promoted me (even though I received awards from the company and was granted >10 patents) because HIS boss thought I was too "analytical". I thought for a time that I fell down the rabbit-hole! Up was down, left was right, etc. It got to be a running joke that all management was done after the upper-eschelon read the daily "Dilbert" cartoon for direction!

Although they'd never admit it, most folks in corporate management want a legion of "Stepford workers" toiling for them, kissing up to their rumps when necessary and fawning over their obvious intellectual superiority. The slogans and the buzzwords (e.g. empowerment) are all meant as management tools to shoot the messenger or the percieved guilty.

God I hated the hypocricy, so I started my own business and I've been a pretty good boss to myself lately! And I just got my performance review and merit increase: above average on each!!!

Seriously, about half of my clients are Fortune 100 or greater companies. I get to look at the management from the "outside in", and if real people weren't involved, the situations would be laughable. The "Peter Principle" is still 'de rigeur' in most companies -- cream rarely rises to the top, but *hit truly does float!

So, if you get a clueless or dominating or (enter descrition here) boss, don't hate him/her but pity them. It's usually not their fault. But do CHERISH the boss who's fair-minded, doesn't play favorites and stands up to upper management in defense of his/her direct reports. 'Cause sooner or later you're going to end up with a "floater".


Tony

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[Richard_Cranium72]

I can NOT believe the Cookie Monster is a brownie boy,, What a surprise <IMG SRC="http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif" border=0> ,

We do agree on what to do to the person who came up with the bar code scanner systems, rather the ones that don't interface right.

(That's a word ya don't hear anymore!)(interface)

For two years we've been attempting to get a bar code system right..

Tonym, I like that, Stepford workers,
I suppose it's regional but here they expect a response like Pavlov's dog.

The bunch I work, for which happens to have more than ten thousand employees, has established a "good-ole-boy" network.

They make sure you won't expose the dirt by intimidation, threats(open), transferring you to an undesirable location, withholding bonus monies etc, etc.

If they have any doubts of your complete "storm trooper" type loyalty, then you are not invited to join the club.

This type mentality is equal to the ones who a few generations ago tortured certain groups because of ethnic descent or National origin or from-semantic intolerance.

A recent whistleblower who squealed about some federal law allegations received a dead canary.

A few months later the rented company Lear went down from "mechanical" problems with him and all on board lost..

I'll leave the embellishment for others, this info is all true.. so sad..

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[plucky duck]

In my workplace, if you're a minority and am a good sucker-upper you're almost guaranteed to step up the ladder into middle management. I myself are a part of that minority and I was offered promotions since my 2 years but never did take the jump 'cause its not worth the money. For an extra dime, they drop a tonne load on you and make you work your ***** off.

In case you guys don't know what I'm referring to...its McDonalds

McDonalds' has this great image of caring for the community and the little dudes/dudettes. But behind the scene or closed doors they turn around and drive us teens like crazy slaves. Its hard as it is tryin' to earn a decent income @ minimum wage, yet they try to cut your daily workload to 2/3/4 hours. With transportation cost in mind, we're practically giving ourselves away. All they care about is the labour cost and profit, with absolutely no regards to our situations. Its dispicable (spelling?).

Everybody whose in management in this place are a bunch of sucker-uppers. I feel the need to differentiate myself from the group.
I don't want to go any lower and become one of them.

Not to mention that wage increases are totally inconsiderate of inflation. Woah, a whole extra canadian dime. If it were not for the government bringing up minimum wage, I'd still be working for way below the poverty level. As time goes by, the real value of our take home pay is gonna drop like a bomb cause they're lousy raises aren't even enough to cover inflation.

Too bad not all McDonalds have a Union.
It'd be more beneficial to us vulnerable kids.

Hey didn't mean to rant, but you asked...I spoke.

Good thing I'm quiting soon.
Gonna jump back into day school, hopefully graduate within 2 years, and earn a decent living and be able to get my parents to retire before they're 65.

Plucky

[Richard_Cranium72]

Of the twenty two members of out immediate management team only six rate OK,
two question mark due to newness to our location.

So 16 of 22 are unacceptable,

the issues besides fairness are,
pre-judging by looks,
insisting on "Do it my way",
cooking the equipment failure books due to poor planning/operation,
application of company assets to personal use,
selective application of rules by race,
two faced reporting,
falsification of safety reports,
permitting some employees to use company time to run their own business while at work and at the same time running down the ones they hate for whatever reason.. man,

I need a long vacation.
Maybe permanent.

Some of you see people as fools when they run down big business.

Till you witness the absolute and complete corruption that money/power can produce, you'll probably doubt the veracity of allegations as severe as these.

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[plucky duck]

yup, its "Do it my way...or get the h*ll out of my way*

Money and Power is a driving force towards corruption once you've got too much of it.

As far as employees using company time to do personal biz', in McD its mostly the managers who're slacking off BIG TIME. Can't say too much 'cause they are my seniors.

Bunch of lazy jackasses.

Plucky
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[Biff]

I'd say their fair where I work - Hey wait a minute, I am management!