Crippled?????

[cwizard]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Intel is releasing a 500MHz celeron but has been flooding the market with the crippled 810 chipset to support it?

I would suggest that anyone avoid the 810 chipset because it is a performance crippler. I guess that they think that people will only look at 500MHz, not what the chip will actually do in terms of performance. Even PC Magazine said that the 810 chipset reduced the performance level by about 30% for the 500MHz celeron. They are available now BTW.

[izzzy12k]

Anyone know if a LX motherboard will support the new 500MHZ celery?

-Izzzy12k

[bkehoe]

My BX Chaintech and Soyo boards will.

I believe the Celery 500 will hgave a multiplier of 7.5. So if your board supports that it will run.

What I'm wondering is what would happen if you put it into a board with BIOS cpu control, that doesn't have the option for a 7.5X multiplier. I notice if I put a PII 300 into my Soyo BX it will boot fine. Then I put a Celery 400 in and it boots,setting the CPU speed without any manual setting.

Maybe it would internally set the multiplier, but not have the actual multiplier in the manual settings?

Just a crazy thought from me.

Brendan

[Joel Kleppinger]

Actually bkehoe, you're right. That's the one and only advantage of multiplier-locked CPUs. The motherboard is only obsolete when the CPU moves to a FSB that the motherboard doesn't support. It doesn't matter how many multipliers it supports. The Intel multiplier locked CPUs ignore the motherboards voltages to set the multiplier (it seems like we had a nice discussion about this in the Overclocking forum a month or two ago ).

Because of this, I theorize that any multiplier-locked CPU will work on any motherboard that has FSB and BIOS support for it. I've tested this with a few different CPUs and motherboards and haven't found any deviances. I can't guarantee this trend will continue, but I see no reason why it wouldn't.

In fact, I wonder if this isn't the reason we are seeing some motherboards really push the limits on features. Manufacturers are in a highly competitive market and don't have the luxury of planned obsolescence like they did with the Socket7. Of course, that's just another wild, hair-brained theory, but it may be at least partially right.

Izzy: I don't know, but if they will work with earlier CeleronA CPUs, I'd put down money that the 500 would work on them. It's just a good thing I don't have much money.

[izzzy12k]

I have a BCM KR632 (LX), I plan to buy a processor for it. I may take the chance and drop in a 500 celery.

Thanks,

-Izzzy12k

[Joel Kleppinger]

Well, before you do that, make sure the motherboard currently supports a CeleronA. If not, flash a BIOS for it that will before sticking in the new CPU.