No logon screen

[Mithril]

Using Win98 Ipx & tcp, I recently had to do a reinstall after changimg MB to BX6.

Now this computer, when turned on, runs straight to the main screen, it appears on all other comps under Netwrk neighborhd but it doesn't show any other computers under it's own Net Nghbhd!?

However if I log off & back on again VOILA!

I've changed from quick logon to ....the other one.
I've taken the spaces out of my workgroup & Id name (someone suggested that)

All I need is a logon screen on boot up (so it seems)
help appreciated
Mick

[ktwebb]

I will assume that your primary login is Client for Microsoft and not the Microsoft Family login. If not change it to the Client logon. If it is already, you can try to remove Client for Micosoft, reboot and load it again. This is a fairly common problem that you will see every once in a while on tech help message boards. You can try to remove all components of Network Neighborhood properties, reboot and reload. I had this same problem once on a laptop an ended up reloading windows.

[BC]

What you need is netbeui installed. On all the machines. IPX is for novell networks. TCP/IP is good for large networks NetBEUI is for small networks and doesn't really need a lot of administration. And you don't have to log on to the network. Also make sure that you have a least print sharing on in the file and print sharing. If you can't see them do a right click on net. neig. go to find comp and type in the computer name you are trying to find. Also put the comps in the same workgroup until you can set them up sucessfully.
BC
Let me know if this helps any.

[ktwebb]

Netbeui is a fast and easy protocol to get running but has nada to do with you not getting a logon.

[BC]

No it doesn't but I was trying to show him/her a quick and easy way to get the network up and running. Sounded like what they wanted to do is see the comps in the network neighborhood. Netbeui would do this even if the logon screen wasn't working.
You don't need the network logon screen to come up in order to get a network running.

[BC]

Ok I was reading you all wrong. yes NetBEUI would do this but this is a problem with Win98 registry.
Here try this and let me know if it helps:
1. Go into regedit.
2.goto- HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\network\Real Mode net

The value of this should be 1.

Hope this helps

[erale]

I have the same problem with the Windows Login screen at startup. I'm not running a network but would like to automate my ISP Dialup and I would like to identify myself on bootup with username and password. I have the same setup running on another WIN98 machine and it works fine. To get on the Internet you simply open your browser from the desktop.

I'm running WIN98 SE. So far, even Microsoft online support has been unable to help. I may have to just start over loading WIN98 then WIN98SE again.

Any thoughts

[Yoda]

At one time you logged in your system leaving the pasword field blank. This makes windows assume will not use passwords further on and it will never ask for it anymore. What i did to cure this problem was creating a knew user, login to that user and delete all the others.

Bye

[Jlees]

Seems like you've gotten lots of advice here... dunno if any of it worked for you or not.

If your not getting a login screen try this.

In the c:\windows directory, or where ever you installed win98, there are .pwl files.

These are password list files. If you enter a blank password windows 95 (and 98) no longer prompt you for a password (or save individual settings for users)

Delete these .pwl files, or if you prefer rename them to .pwl.bak. these files not being there will cause windows to prompt you to login. remember to not enter a blank password and your ready to go.

I don't think this will fix your problem of other computers not showing up in network neighborhood but it's worth a try.

good luck!

Jerry Lees, MCSE MCP+I MCT

[erale]

I've tried all of the mentioned tricks. Deleted all .pwl files, entered a new user and even reloaded WIN98SE. Still, I don't get the logon screen when starting, not even momentarily. The odd thing is that when you go to "Start" the option "Logoff" is there. If I logoff and re-logon as the correct user everything is fine until the next reboot. Is there somewhere in the registry to correct this by forcing the Windows Logon to show at startup??

[Mithril]

Just an update to say I appreciate the time taken so far in replying but as yet I have no joy with any of the above "solutions".
I really don't wanna do a full win install. The problem persists as detailed by erale above. ie no logon screen but windows (in start) has "Log of ....." I hit this, log on as the proper user & hey presto everything works a OK. The biggest problem I have however is that this machine is connected to my modem & I use PC Anywhere to do things remotely, If I have to reboot I no longer have network acces.
The network works brilliantly without NetBeui (which I beleive requires a log in screen anyway) Further help required

[erale]

Mithril, I agree!! But, I've found some good advice and help here before. Just need to get the right person to read this thread. I can't even get good help from Microsoft. They are offering the same advice as above, to no avail.

Anyone with past experience in this problem please respond!!!!

[BC]

hrmmp. You have tried looking in your registry and the same problem. The reason I suggest this is because I have had it happen many times to me when I install win98.

And about that NetBEUI thing; sometimes there are alot of people here that just want a network to run games or transfer some files and that generally gets them by.

I don't know all the answers, but I do try to help. From what it sounds like it is a windows bug and there is something in there telling it not to bring up the logon screen at the startup. There are some other settings in the regs. that if you tweak will help out, but when I have had this same problem I have just changed that one value and bingo!

[Mithril]

Don't think I'm not grateful for all the suggestions....
Here's my Key details from registry
for
HKEY Local\Softw\M'soft\Win\CrntVrs\Network\Real Mod Net

transport=*netbeui,*nwlink
netcard=
LoadRMDrivers=00,00,00,00
preferredredir=VREDIR
SetbySetup=01,00,00,00
AutoLogon=00,00,00,00

Other (working) computers have the following
A:
transport=*netbui,*nwlink,
netcard=
LoadRMDriver=00,00,00,00
preferredredir=VREDIR

or
B:
transport=*netbui,*nwlink,ndishlp.sys
netcard=pcind.dos
LoadRMDriver=00,00,00,00
preferredredir=VREDIR

I'm off to a registry site to see if I can make sense of these!
That autologon key looks suspicious!!
Mick

[Mithril]

SOLUTION

Guess what....the MS site had the answer (for me)
On the win 98 CD there's a program in the \Tools\MTSutil directory called
autolog.inf

right click on this & select install
reboot & viola!

it gets rid of that offending autologon line in the registry, that's all

A breath of relief
Mick