network nightmare

[davem]

I am trying to install a network connection between my 486dx and my celery 300a.
Both running win 98.
Beleive it or not the 486 seems to be all in order ,
The Celeron is giving me hell,It will not show a network password / log on screen at startup.And is therefor unable to brouse the network,What am I missing .

I work with a net work most days at work and have never been faced with this problem

[moto]

Do you have client for microsoft networks?

[davem]

Yes I have .
I have also set my IP address and file and print sharing .
I can actually see my own pc (celery 300) on network neighbourhood on the celery 300
The 486 also shows it's self on it's own screen (486)
They can both see themselves but not each other.
I am using a X over cable RJ45 with 2 x generic type (Ne 2000 compatable 10 base T )
network cards .
As I said before I work on a network at work and configure pc's to our system all the time ,
but I have never set a network up from scratch . I am certainly no expert but I am baffled by this ,and to make it worse i am sure it will be something simple that I have over looked .
Any help will be greatly appreciated

[frogpuff]

What types of network protocals are you using? I have had a couple of times with Win98 that I had to remeove all protocals and then re-install them. I had problems very simular to yours. The other question I would have is, if you have tcp/ip installed on each and you have given each an address, can you "ping" each machine???
As far as login screen goes, I think with win98 if you have "window family" as your primary login you don't get the login screen, but if you have Client for Microsoft Networks, then you will get the login screen everytime.

Sorry to ask this but, both machines are on the same "workgroup" right?

[This message has been edited by frogpuff (edited 07-31-99).]

[davem]

Frogman :
Yes I am using tcp/ip and both machines are on the same workgroup and both are on client for microsoft networks.
Both machines will ping themselves but not each other :machine **.**.*.1 will not ping machine **.**.*.2
MOST FRUSTRATING !!!!!!!

[smokin1]

i know this may sound lame but do you have the protocols assigned to the particular cards in the system?
tcp/ip and ipx/spx? is there an internet connection on one of the boxes? try unloading tcp on the card box with the
connection then loading it after they see each other...last any irq conflicts?
maybe with a sound card.. sometimes win98 won't show you and you have to check it out
cheers

[davem]

Yes, there are no conflicts between cards. I have TCP/IP protocols set-up for all cards, I will try removing the modem and see if that makes any difference. Thanks, and any other help will be greatly appreciated!

[smokin1]

is netbui set up?

[frogpuff]

I would check your x-over cable, are the lights on the network cards lit??? When I have set up win98 networks from scratch, the first thing I do is make sure file and print sharing are checked, then make sure client for microsoft networks is listed,then I add ipx/spx protocal, then netBEUI, then I make sure that tcp/ip is listed for both the dial up adaptor and the network adaptor (network card), then in the properties for the network card under tcp/ip I assign it an address (usually 192.168.0.?) then subnet mask, (255.255.255.0) reboot and all is right with the world. I don't know what else could be wrong if you still can't see the other machine on the network. Good luck and keep us posted.

[Spacetop]

I've had a similar problem.. if windows98 does not show you a login screen in the beginning, you have to manually log off, and then log in under any name... I don't know why but it helped in my case, I couldn't see the network unless I log off and then login as any user, but do not press ESC at the login screen... Try that...

Spacetop

[BC]

ok I have a question that I did not see asked. Because I think I have an answer for ya. Do you have in the primary login set to netwok or windows? And can you go click on start and log off then do you get the network login screen? I you do can you login then and be fine on the network? I have had similar problems I have another solution if this doesn't work

[davem]

Thanks everyone for your reply's
I have now got my network and shared internet connection up and running .
The problem was with a faulty network card .

[Plane Dum]

I hate when that happens !!!