I know this problem. Its another M$ bug(waste of money to upg. to WIN98SE)
The upgrade cost just $20. I am going to try a clean install to see if upgrading W981.0 is the problem
I feel violated and I am not a M$ basher. I reformated the partition and booted with a W98 disk. I loaded the upgrade Cd and tried to launch setup from CD. Wrong! M$ has made it immpossible to do a clean install from the W98SE upgrade CD. I expected to have to "Show" my original w98 cd but they blocked this type of update. I guess they want $89 instead of $20. Anybody... Anybody...
Netwoking Problems in W98SE upgrade
I had a W98 (original edition) working fine on a small office network of W98 and WNT4 machines. I just received a copy of W98SE upgrade direct from Microsoft. After installing, W98SE machine cannot see any other computers on the network. I have tried reinstalling all networking components but no go. W98 say the NIC is working fine. Has anybody had any networking problems with SE. Thanks.
I have the same networkorking problem. I am glad to see it isn't just my problem. My 98 network worked great, but 98SE won't talk. When I go into Network Neighborhood I can see the name of the machine I am working on but nothing else. I totally uninstalled and retinstalled the network with no improvement.
Here is another question about reinstalling a network on any version of Win98 (I have seen it on the original and SE). After reinstalling the network, going into Network Neighborhood after a boot up shows only "Entire Network". I have to go to the Start Menu, select Log Off Network, and then go back through the network password box to get back into Win98. When I am in for the second time (or third, fourth, etc...) and I select Network Neighborhood I can then see the machines on the network (unless it is Win98SE and then I can only see the local machine). Basically, the first try to get the network up after a boot up doesn't work. Does anybody have any insight into this one?
To toms111: I am currently running 98SE on the server but not on my other machines. Not a problem.
To Shawn:When you first log in and go to Network Neighborhood, do you do it immediatly. Have you tried waiting for 2-5 minutes. They usually show up for me after that time.
I am begining to think this problem may be dependant on the NIC card/driver combination. My NIC cards are from D-link and I am using the latest drivers. I reported the problem to them and they promissed a call back. That was several days ago and nothing yet. When I get a chance, I am going to try a diferent NIC card and see if the same thing happens. I will let you all know.
Which version of 98SE did you install? Mine is the $20 upgrade to 98 direct from Microsoft? Is this what you used or did you buy the new 98SE upgrade for versions of windows prior to 98. Or I guess there is a third possibility... MS is probably shipping a new OEM version with new computers. It shouldn't make any difference but I found that with the version I have, I cannot do a clean install form the W98SE CD. Unless I am doing something wrong. Cleanest install I was able to do was to reformat, Install W98, and then upgrade to 98SE.
I used the full retail version of Win98SE.
Waiting doesn't make any difference. On the first network install on a virgin system things worked great. This problem seems to occur on 98 machines after the networks is uninstalled and then reinstalled (or at least my 98 machines). I wonder if there is a footprint in the registry from the original network install that is mucking things up.
I have the $20 W98SE installed on the Server.
If I recall correctly, I have run into this and I ended up rebuilding my machine(s).
Sorry, I can't think of anything that would solve it other than the lovely rebuild.
same thing happened to me, let me know if you figure it out. see if this article helps u out,i really haven't had time to try it. http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q130/0/77.asp
i have the same problem, did a little reading, found 1 article that i was going to try. let me know what u do
Not even close!
I'll take two... CPU's
Other than having to be in the same Network Neighborhood and rebooting twice after any network change, if you can ping the other PC's by IP then I can only think of one thing:
It is a device driver called "vnetbios.vxd" that announces and polls for networked PC's.
I believe thats where the problem comes from. Let me do some checking to find more info on it.
My full version of SE does not have any problem with this type of thing.
I have the same problem now, i did find 1 article, http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q130/0/77.asp maybe this will help you, i haven't had time to play with it again
Problem solved. D-link release a new driver and networking came back. It would seem that W98SE cannot use all drivers that worked ok in W98. Advice: Get latest driver before attempting up grade. W98SE seemes to be working pretty good.
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