Celeron 433? Is Intel STILL using 66MHz bus? ;)

[Leo V]

It is well known that Intel wants its Celeron line of processors to bow low to the performance of the Pentium II (though I won't mention the well-known overclocking). But consider the upcoming Celeron 433: their apparent plan is having a 66MHz bus, 6.5 multiplier. It is clear that any processor above 333MHz just HAS to have the 100MHz front side bus just to function near its potential. Nevertheless, Intel just won't let go its choke hold on Celerons and their bus speed! I was amazed, considering that their Celeron 400 (6.0x66MHz bus) was tested 20% slower than a real PII/400 (4.0x100MHz bus) at its normal speed. This is a definite bus speed issue, since overclocked Celerons running at 100MHz FSB slightly OUTperform PentiumII's of the same speed. So how much difference will 433MHz make when the system is almost completely held back by the Pentium-esque 66MHz bus speed? It's about time somebody (meaning INTEL) realized 66MHz bus is obsolete

[DManly]

Well, guess Intel likes the 66mhz bus speed. Remember a few years ago that Intel proclaimed that 66 was as fast as was practical due to transmission interference (RF) on the faster bus speeds. Then came along lowely little much maligned Cyrix pushing the 75mhz bus a couple of years ago. hmmm guess that if it were not for Cyrix....

I wonder if we will see 10x mulitpliers on the 66mhz bus from Intel?

[Isos]

It's a marketing trick. Intel can afford to sell it low because they lock it in a way that using 100 FSB is not a reality. So for people who really want the fastest possible configuration, they can buy P3 at >5 times higher.

[Leo V]

10x multiplier from Intel? Quite possible:
"Inhell Celeron Inferno 666, (66bus x 10.0 multiplier makes 666MHz)"

[Slider]

They'll stick to the 66Mhz bus for the Celeron for exactly the fact that you mentioned. How could they expect to sell a PII 400 if the C400 performed as well? They couldn't. Intel will continue on with the celerons at 66Mhz bus speed because it slows them down and the higher the multiplier, the harder they are for overclocking since each jump in the front bus speed translates to a greater overall speed which becomes more difficult to attain. They've already pretty much killed any hope of hitting 100Mhz bus speed with the C400a and pretty close to it with the C366a ( you'd have to be able to hit 600Mhz and 550Mhz respectivly). I think they'll keep on the 66Mhz track. Hurts us overclockers and differenciates the celerons and the PII's (and soon the PIII's)

[Missing the point]

Hehe, had to bring this one back

They have 66MHz bus STILL!!!

LOL!!!!!

[Dputiger]

When I started reading this I was like....huh???

VERY funny. I wonder if we'll ever see CPU's with 20X multipliers.