New to overclocking

[natas]

Does anyone know where i can find a good tutorial on how to overclock cpus?I am new to this and would like to try it.

[Roy]

Go to SysOpt's Home page www.sysopt.com and click on Guides. You'll find every thing you need to get started.


Hey Dluv! This is a discussion forum for overclockers. Please take your message elsewhere - maybe somewhere it will be appreciated!!!


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[This message has been edited by Roy (edited 02-12-99).]

[Dluv]

You know, i may be the only one on this site that is strongly against overclocking but here goes my arguemet.
THE CPU WAS NOT MEANT TO GO AT THAT SPEED. Moderate overclocking may be okay, that is maybe 16MHz at most (in some cases there are no choice. If you want to argue, try setting the clock for a 350 MHz AMD k6-2 to run at 66 MHz bus. (Yes it does have to be done sometimes dont argue that point.)) It will run exremely hot and unstable. The benefits of that slight MHz increase is outweighed by the possiblity of blowing out your CPU through extended use. Just think of this question. Is that 30 MHz or so increase worth the price of a new CPU when (and i stress when) you blow it out? I would rather invest in a CPU that can support it.

[natas]

I never thought of it like that.Good point.
Thanks

[seti]

Well...first you have to ask yourself...how long do actully think you'll be useing the same cpu? Granted, the current top end cpu could probably find happy homes for a long time...but I doubt the original owner would want it more than two years at the most. Now an un-overclocked proccesser I've heard has a life span of 10+ years. If you plan to use your cpu for 10 years, then overclocking isn't for you. um...lets see, wasn't the 286 kicking 10 years ago? I took my 286, and 386 apart for the power supply fans. And things have been getting faster exponetially ever since. If you keep everything cool...you'll be fine. ha, mine's cooler now than before I jumped into overclocking. That doesn't mean it will last longer but I don't care...It only needs to last about a year.

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[gohmdoree]

yeah, i like what seti said. i've just ordered some celeron sticks. all of which i will overclock, maybe even try a dual system. granted the cpu's were not meant for a higher speed, they can go that way. illegal? i don't think so. it's mine. =) but, the celerons for instance and even some of the pii's, correction, most processors can be overclocked...is it better? i would think so. i think it is fun to do and try. to see your creation come to life, but also, you get the performance of a higher processor for a smaller price...granted if you go crazy on fans and stuff the price can go up, but the stock fans are decent....try it...i think you will just love it...

[Isos]

Since this is your first time, play it safe. Try higher FSB using default voltage only. If no go, lower your FSB. Increasing voltage may burn your cpu. If you will increase voltage, make sure you really have a very good cpu cooling.
It is sometimes better to have a stable 4.5 X 75 than 4.5 X 112 that locks up. I consider a setup unstable if it locks up consistently. Sometimes, I get lucky - P2 @4.5 x 112 at 2.0v.

[arklab2]

A considered reply to Dluv's ststement -"THE CPU WAS NOT MEANT TO GO AT THAT SPEED..."
It is my belief that Intel intentionally UNDER-CLOCKS the Celeron series to prevent a total sales hit on the PII line.
To support this I offer the first Retail-Box Celeron, the 266Mhz SL2QG. As Dr. Tom first pointed out (and fully supported by S-spec and other documents on Intel's own web site, this chip WAS an Intel PII 400, with the L2 catch striped off. Notice also the sudden change in Intel's benchmarking at this time, and the lack iComp indexing for Celerons now (even running at 66 FSB.)
In short, although some report failures, this is the exception, not the rule. If not, why lock the multipliers? (And, please, don't use the anti-remarker argument ... they have defeated the locks)
Thoughtfully
Andrew

[natas]

Thanks for all the advice.Still one question.I hear a lot about overclocking the celeron cpu.What about Amd,Cyrix?Is one more stable than the other?

[Isos]

AMD & Cyrix are good processors. However, they don't give as much overclocking joy than the Intel CPU - 300 to 450 (I'm 150% happier)
Somes says Intel is better for overclocking because their quality control put the rating of the cpu about 15% below the passing rating of the batch.

[chuckiechan]

You need to have the right attitude to overclock!!
You must accept the fact that computers are for fun and games, and work is just an unfortunate by product of computers.
I have been told, and I believe it to be true that the first computer was designed for games, NOT WORK!! Therefore, as in automobiles and airplanes, fast is good, slow is bad.
If you mess up and fry it, this is the excuse you need to buy the faster one out today!!

Happy clocking...

[Maxx]

Ok Intels celery chip is a great overclocker but its kinda stripped of everything else. I have an AMD K6-2 366 and i was unhappy to find out that to get to 366 i had to run it a 66 Mhz FSB and a multiplyer of 5.5 This sucked so i hoped into my Motherboard manual and bumped it up to 400 Mhz run but not well so i upped the voltage to 2.3 and man i'm sooo much happier. all this for a total of $380 ( new mobo, cpu, and 64 megs ram) anyway here are a couple of good sites to get you started .

www.tomshardware.com
www.overclockers.com
www.sysopt.com

good luck overclocking is not a mortal sin so have fun