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    Lost Hero. ....posted out of context items wil

    Occasionally, l google a topic of interest and browse obscure results for unusual context or trivia.
    lt can pass a quiet evening.

    l ran into a little mystery.
    A tale of a hero and his loss.

    l've come back to it a couple of times, determined to learn more and failed to progress.
    My entire interest in this topic is web generated.
    l would not know what l know about this Air Force pilot but for the web.

    The guys story is incredible.
    There is an odd aspect to the tale.
    Is any one interested in trying to find the 'next step'.


    l could maybe just throw in the prime links that revealed what l have learned and hope maybe another 'connects' to aspects of it.

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    Nahh


    Just go see a doctor




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    Nah, could be a larf.

    Just want to prep a few active minds for those lazy idle moments that crop up.

    Could be fun and actually is interesting in a minor way.

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    Lazy minds? I hope you're not referring to sysopt members. Now go away, I can't be bothered with your hero stuff, too much like hard work!

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    Lazy moments for idle minds.

    Anyway, It's about this Airforce Pilot.
    During the initial response to Japanese aggression in the pacific during 1942, this guy and his Fighter squadron were shipped across the Pacific to Australia and on then to Port Moresby in Papua New Guinea. They fought the Japanes crack fighter groups based at Rabaul, Lae and Salamaua.

    This was a desperate time with Australia terrified of invasion and her Army, Navy and Airforce commited to the european war.
    America stepped in and took the strain.

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    So basically fresh out of peacetime America this squadron ships halfway across the globe without adequate supply or planning or resources and go up against the cream of the enemys Naval Air Force who are blowing away everything before them.


    These guys do well, losses are heavy, conditions are terrible but they fight and keep on fighting until virtually no aircraft remain to them and they are spent. The unit is returned to Australia to recover and re equip and the pilot who interests me is lost on a local mission in the outback and never heard of again.

    There are extensive military records of the period available now on line. Google something like' 'New Guinea' 1942 p-39' and voila. The period in time April to June.

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    Last edited by herosrest; 02-15-2005 at 09:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herosrest

    Quote Originally Posted by herosrest
    Details of the mission during which 41-38339 was lost are misleading. Wedau is located on the North east coast of Papua NG, some 25 miles (by air) from Gilli gilli wharf - Milne bay. The coastal journey is much longer but within the p-39's range. This mission could not be flown direct from Garbutt, Townsville.


    Airacobra cockpit.

    SOURCES Wartime reports:
    Combat Reports (RAAF Form A.108A) for Lt. P.G. Brown, 36 FS (27 May 42) ; Lt. F. Royal, 39 FS (4 Jul 42); Lt. J.C. Price, 39 FS (4 Jul 42); and, Capt. E. L. Egenes, 40 FS (6 Jul 42) (cited by pilot's last name)

    In later actions combat reports sometimes offer helpful insights into the relative performance of the two aircraft. Lt. Paul G. Brown chased a Zero at 12,000 feet. "He nearly stayed away from me at 350 mph" (Brown). In a low level action: "I indicated 320 mph straight and level at 1,000 feet. Zero kept me in range" (Royal). In another action on the same day Zeros encountered P-39s and P-400s at 21,000 feet. "Zeros stayed with the Airacobras. I dived 12,000 feet indicating 450 miles per hour and Zero stayed with me and followed me to ground level firing. Lt. Martin pulled him off me" (Price). "4 Zeros were over Kokoda and attacked us on the way home. We were barely able to out speed them at 10,000 feet. We were indicating about 350 mph in a very slight dive. Their probable speed 340 mph" (Egenes).

    Woodlark Island http://www.pacificwrecks.com/provinc..._woodlark.html
    P-39 Airacobras taking off and taxing http://www.pacificghosts.com/video/f...s/sample2.html

    A6M2 Zero Tail Number U-107 http://pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/a6m2/murakami.html
    Last edited by herosrest; 12-02-2007 at 06:51 PM.
    During deep sleep IT came to me and the future of processing is clear.
    Future processors will primarily be digital tuning radios acting as grid computing nodes.
    Voila. See ya in hell.
    PROCESSING

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    Australia is a bloody big place, its only a couple of hundred thou sq miles smaller than the US, and things easily can get lost, especially if you remember that unlike the US, only the coastal areas are populated to any great degree. Huge, country sized chunks are uninhabitable desert so its not surppprising that people have gotten lost and have never been seen ever again.

    Perhaps he was taken by a dingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zybch
    Australia is a bloody big place,
    How comes Australians don't keep goin' missin then ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by j.m@talk
    How comes Australians don't keep goin' missin then ?

    err wishful thinking?

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    Yup. A lot of planes went missing there during that period.
    Whole flights, A squadron even ran out of fuel after getting lost.

    Over the decades since the aircraft have been found.

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    Ah, well.
    l would like to know if the plane and pilot were ever recovered but my search skills just aren't up to it.

    ho hum.

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    Ho hum - no input?

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    Quote Originally Posted by herosrest
    Ho hum - no input?


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