LA 'on the road to Falluja'?

[AdamST]

The LA murder rate is going up and the police chief has requested more officers. But California is broke and cannot afford to recruit. Civil rights lawyer Connie Rice warns that with too few officers to "police humanely", parts of the city may as well be in Falluja.

BBC Story - Link

[werz]

maybe if there were jobs with a little dignity, there would be less kids joining gangs, or am I being a bleeding heart liberal? and these kids aspire to become runners for drug dealers and prostitutes.

[Johnny Fist]

Yeah, give a kid a choice between wearing a paper hat and flipping burgers or wearing some gold chains and selling pot, and wonder why he doesn't want to go to school. This whole service based economy is a joke. There is a whole generation of men out there who can't do anything but make hamburgers. The entire concept of it sickens me. What ever happened to finishing high school and then getting a manufacturing job? At least a skilled trade is something that needs to be learned. Its something you can have pride in. Flipping burgers is a joke.

[Billforce]

Originally posted by werz
maybe if there were jobs with a little dignity, there would be less kids joining gangs, or am I being a bleeding heart liberal? and these kids aspire to become runners for drug dealers and prostitutes.

You have NO concept of the "gang" problem in L.A. L.A. is now 54% (12 million people) Hispanic and the Hispanic gangs recruit out of grade school. I lived there most of my life and watched the problem. Hasn't anything to do with employment, poverty or drugs. It's a social problem unique to L.A. The Mexican Mafia has operated out of Southern Calif. for over 50 years. It's all part of the macho, latino makeup. I went to school with many of the forerunners to the gangs of today. The problem was there then but has greatly expanded in the last 50 years.

[AdamST]

Hasn't anything to do with employment, poverty or drugs.

It has everything to do with that. Gangs breed in places of low employment, abject poverty and drug abuse. Same thing with terrorists...For you to think this is a racial thing is for you to be blind to the real problem, racism.

[Billforce]

As usual your talking about something that you don't have a clue. The problem in L.A. existed BEFORE there was a drug problem (when I went to school, there was NO drugs) and employment was available to anyone who wanted it. They were begging for laborers. The problem existed then because of the reasons I stated.
I wish you would quit quoting out of some idiotic periodical and actually investigate the facts. I am speaking SPECIFICALLY about the L.A. area, no other....I lived there most of my life. All you know is what you read, and usually out of some rag periodical that is all negative and doesn't truly represent FACTS. You seem to make a habit of twisting facts to suit your own leftist ideals.

[Johnny Fist]

Yeah, Adam, this has nothing to do with Canada, Canadian war veterans, Canadian pork-free bar-b-q's, or anything else even remotely associated with Canada.

As Walter would say, "You're out of your element here."

[AdamST]

You're making this bigger then it is. Gangs and gang violence is rooted in what i said in my previous post, “low employment, abject poverty and drug abuse". That is what you call fact. And trying to say drug abuse wasn’t a problem 50 years ago is laughable. Throughout American history and world history for that matter the minority always gets the short end of the stick. Racism may be abolished in our laws but its time to abolish it in our hearts and minds.

[Johnny Fist]

Originally posted by AdamST
Racism may be abolished in our laws but its time to abolish it in our hearts and minds.

You've been watching too much Oprah.