New MB & Mem Get Crash to Desktop & Reboots Help.

[Rosado]

Hi,

I just got a New Asus A7N8X-E and AMD3200+ Processor and Im having crashes to desktop and reboots by itself when in Games.

Here are my Specs:

A7N8X-E Mother Board (New)
AMD 3200+ Processor (New)
430Watt PS (New)
Corsair TwinX 1Gig Dual Channel Mem (New)
Geforce4 TI4400 128meg ram (From old system)
1 DVDRW (Old system)
1 DVDRom (Old system)
2 Hard Drives (Old system)
2 Fans in & out in case. (Old system)

My Temp is in the 145 - 155F area Im not sure if thats too hot or not.

Any help on what maybe my problem?

[Direct1]

My Temp is in the 145 - 155F area Im not sure if thats too hot or not.

That's running fairly hot. Did you apply thermal paste on the CPU before attaching the HSF? Did you do a clean install of your OS after the upgrade? Try one stick of RAM and then the other, could be a bad stick of RAM too...

Good luck!

[Rosado]

I ordered a Combo from the vendor and paid extra for good thermal paste. So Im sure its there but I did not take it apart
to see. Im stand offish on processor/heatsink installs since I
never tried it. That why I order pre-tested combos.

I used my old pair of ram with the same problem before I
purchase a new set of compatible ram for my system same
problem altho I did not test the ram.

What is the normal temp range for my system? What is my
temp range I need to bring it down to eliminate a temp issue?.

Also Yes with the new Install of MB I formatted and reinstalled
the OS.


Thanks

[Direct1]

Are you OC'ing it? If so, set it back to stock speed and see what your temps are. Remove the case and point a house fan at the insides of the case and see if it still crashes...

Good luck!

[BipolarBill]

The video card may be getting hot. Sometimes, the heatsinks on them are not quite seated. Open the case, direct a fan at the opening and run it for awhile.

You should always mention your Windows version. What is it?

[Rosado]

Hey guys Thanks all for the input,

Im not Overclocking, bios is at default for the most part. Im using Windows XP Pro. The video Card has a heatsink with fan thats
working.

I will try it with the case off when I get home. A fan blowing into the system maybe a bit much I can do even for a test due to a few reasons (Girlfriend). I can invest in a better cooling system and or a Case with more fans if you guys think I should just go for it.

I still need to know what is an acceptable temp range for my Cpu. And also what you suggest as to which Cooling system I can get to cool it down a bit.


Thanks

[BipolarBill]

Anything up to about 55° (no load) is OK.

Don't assume that it is temps. It may be the video drivers you're using. I assume that you didn't just use the MS versions or let Windows Update replace them. You need real nVidia drivers.

TO check for driver issues, go to Control Panel > System > Advanced > Startup and Recovery.

Untick "Automatically restart" and set memory dump to None.

Hopefully, you'll get a blue-screen error with a message next time.

[Rosado]

Originally posted by BipolarBill
Anything up to about 55° (no load) is OK.

Don't assume that it is temps. It may be the video drivers you're using. I assume that you didn't just use the MS versions or let Windows Update replace them. You need real nVidia drivers.

TO check for driver issues, go to Control Panel > System > Advanced > Startup and Recovery.

Untick "Automatically restart" and set memory dump to None.

Hopefully, you'll get a blue-screen error with a message next time.

I am using the lastest Nvida Drivers from there site. I will try the Startup and recovery settings. Now I do recall and MS error message about a serious error after it rebooted when I when to read the details it said something about a Minidump?

55 I hope you mean C? But thats about what I get now with no apps running 55-65 I have run some real test and write down what Im getting when Im at the PC right now just going from what I remember.

[BipolarBill]

65°C is too hot for a no-load situation. It sounds like the seller cheaped out on the heatsink. A Vantec Aeroflow is cheap and easy to install if you're interested.

[Rosado]

I just ordered the Vantec Aeroflow for the AMD so I should see that in a couple of days. I hope I can install it without screwing up something besides I have my old MB & AMD for a quick practice
before I do it on my new stuff.

Altho temps may or may not be my problem from what you folks
are telling me I should be running cooler and I do want to correct
that situation. A co-worker has a P4 system with close specs and
he tells me he getting like 38C!?

Could that be right? do AMD's run hotter than the P4's?

Anyway I will get back with these things to try tonight and will
report my findings.

[BipolarBill]

Originally posted by Rosado
Could that be right? do AMD's run hotter than the P4's?

Yes - the XPs run hotter than P4s do. The Athon 64s don't.

[Rosado]

Hey,

I went ahead and got a new case has 4 case fans and 2 on the power supply. Compared to 2 case fans and 1 on PS on my old case Im sure the new one is an improvement.

Here are some quick findings on power up I get 52-56C holds
at about 56 with no programs running. When I load I game it
gets up to about 66C. When I exit the game it goes down to about 60C and stay stable about there.

Have not gone thru playing some games yet to give it a real test but I will. Just wondering how those Temps are? I still got the Airflow Fan & Heatsink on the way.

[Rosado]

Ok I still get a system reboot while in a game. The CPU was at about 67C at time of reboot. and no blue screen with error just
a reboot, I did turn of the auto restart on failure.

So now I dont know what to think.

[BipolarBill]

It's heat. CPU heat cannot be relieved by case fans. You need a better CPU heatsink/fan.

[Rosado]

Ok how much cooler can I expect the Airflow unit to cool the cpu? Seems like the cpu is running hotter than normal even
with its stock heatsink & fan.