AGP4x card?

[killer_teddy]

My Dad intends to buy an MSI 745 ultra and a 2100XP and a graphics card, which should be good but not too expensive and AFAIK that board only takes AGP4x cards so most good cards available aren't compatilbe.

Now, is it worth getting a PCI card or are there some good cards that use AGP4x or should he think about a different mobo? I'd go with the latter myself but only if an AGP4x card is not possible.

thanks!

[cwin]

Originally posted by killer_teddy
My Dad intends to buy an MSI 745 ultra and a 2100XP and a graphics card, which should be good but not too expensive and AFAIK that board only takes AGP4x cards so most good cards available aren't compatilbe.

Now, is it worth getting a PCI card or are there some good cards that use AGP4x or should he think about a different mobo? I'd go with the latter myself but only if an AGP4x card is not possible.

thanks!

All 8x cards run on 4x afaik

[bob05]

Originally posted by killer_teddy
My Dad intends to buy an MSI 745 ultra and a 2100XP and a graphics card, which should be good but not too expensive and AFAIK that board only takes AGP4x cards so most good cards available aren't compatilbe.

Now, is it worth getting a PCI card or are there some good cards that use AGP4x or should he think about a different mobo? I'd go with the latter myself but only if an AGP4x card is not possible.

thanks!

I have a lot of experience with them PCI cards. If you are into casual gaming, then PCI cards are fine. But AGP 4x cards a better than PCI cards. You can pick up a Geforce 4 Ti 4200 for under $100 (64 mb version for $75 ) now. The Ti 4200 will suit you fine.

[ComPooTer]

get a 4x video card

[Magua]

The ti4200 is probably the best chip in that situation.

[killer_teddy]

Originally posted by cwin
All 8x cards run on 4x afaik

What you mean I can get an 8x and just run it as a 4x?

[cwin]

Originally posted by killer_teddy

What you mean I can get an 8x and just run it as a 4x?

I think so... make sure first, i think that the 9800pro can go at 4x, and currently, there is only a minor performance loss

[ComPooTer]

not even minor, more like very very very minimal. 8x has not been fully utilized yet

the only thing you would see is different voltages, IE: 1.5 vs 0.8

thats the only diff between 4x and 8x other than that they r identical performance wise

[cwin]

you might notice a difference of -err- 200 3dMarks2000

[benknobi]

Originally posted by ComPooTer
not even minor, more like very very very minimal. 8x has not been fully utilized yet

the only thing you would see is different voltages, IE: 1.5 vs 0.8

thats the only diff between 4x and 8x other than that they r identical performance wise

This is not right I'm afraid.
AGP 2X slots based on the AGP 1.0 standard are 3.3volt. AGP1.5 and 2.0 spec cards are 1.5volt. Any newer 4X or 8X card uses AGP 1.5 or 2.0 slots on the MB and will work just fine.

You find 2X AGP1.0 slots on the earliest Pentium AGP MB's and are getting sort of rare now. (Unless of course your running a Classic Pentium )

Any 8X AGP card can be forced to run at 4 X (or 2X for that matter) speed through driver settings or Bios. The 8X AGP card won't fit in an AGP 1.0 3.3v slot because of the keying slots on the AGP connector on the Card. (Just like SDRAM and DDR SDRAM) . It will fit in a 4X AGP 1.5 slot and work quite well. My card is 8X and I run it in a 4X Motherboard and it works perfectly.

[cwin]

thats what we mean
if he puts an 8x card in his 4x mobo, the card will run at 4x, 1.5v