WINME to WINXP pro

[suttonmf]

i upgraded my winme box to winxp pro. Now a lot of my folders come up with a read only status. This is having the effect of not being able to install software. I changed the folder to read from read only, but the setting will not stick. and yes i am logged in as administrator. Please help.

[Soap]

Try doing a clean install since you have fewer problems that way. If that doesn't fix it try repairing your motherboard and heatsink. Soldering kits are relatively inexpensive at walmart should you decide you need one.

[mireland]

Originally posted by Soap
Try doing a clean install since you have fewer problems that way. If that doesn't fix it try repairing your motherboard and heatsink. Soldering kits are relatively inexpensive at walmart should you decide you need one.

sorry, but I don't see how repairing the Mobo and heatsink is gonna remove permissions off a folder. I do agree a fresh install would be helpful.

[rmanet]

Originally posted by Soap
Try doing a clean install since you have fewer problems that way. If that doesn't fix it try repairing your motherboard and heatsink. Soldering kits are relatively inexpensive at walmart should you decide you need one.

man, that's some bad advice, period. and a clean install means you better backup your files and be ready to reinstall all of your apps

I still think it has to do with your administrative rights, etc. even though you're logged in as administrator

a thread here with some MS links about maybe reinstalling the upgrade, but I've never done it with ME to XP

see if it helps, if not post back

[rraehal]

Originally posted by suttonmf
I changed the folder to read from read only, but the setting will not stick.

I will assume that you converted your file system to NTFS from FAT32 since FAT32 does not support individual file permissions.

First all administrators should have full control over files and folders on the hard disk. When changing security properties, make sure to check the full control box and then clicking OK. A change from Read Only to Read will have no effect. They are both the same setting.

Did you try an change permissions on your own? If so you may have set permissions on the C drive that are being inherited by other folders. Make sure your C drive gives the Administrator and Administrators Group Full Control of the hard disk. If you want to restrict access, create other users that are part of the users group or power users group. You can start by opeing my computer and telling the system to show you the files. Next right click the C drive and select properties. Go to the Security Tab and make sure to Check the Full Control box for YOUR PC\Administrators and click APPLY. Next click the Advanced Button and check the box that says "Replace Permission on Child Objects" or similar down at the bottom of the permissons tab and click OK. After a few minutes (when the process completes) click OK a second time to close the original window.

[rraehal]

Attached is a picture that will show default permissions. You should not change these, only add to them to restrcict certain users or groups.

Administrators has all boxes checked
CREATOR OWNER has no boxes checked
Everyone has no boxes checked
SYSTEM has all boxes check
Users has Read & Execute, Read, and List Folder Contents Checked

After you have set all filesystem parameters to this, windows should allow you to install programs.

[dajogejr]

Originally posted by Soap
If that doesn't fix it try repairing your motherboard and heatsink. Soldering kits are relatively inexpensive at walmart should you decide you need one.

I just blew the engine in my car...does that mean I need my tires rotated???

Anyways...

I do support a full format and clean install of XP from ME...2000 seems to go to XP a little cleaner.

Are you logging on as the actual administrator...or with an account that has admin privelledges? Not that is should make a difference...but, at the GUI screen to log on (where you choose your user name) if you're using the welcome screen...press and hold CTRL + ALT + Delete for a few seconds. Log on as the actual administrator...and then reset permission.

Not saying you're wrong...rraehal, but why wouldn't you allow creator/owner full permissions?

Just curious.

[Soap]

I just blew the engine in my car...does that mean I need my tires rotated???

Hey, try to stay on topic. This isn't a forum about cars.

[dajogejr]

That was sarcasm...we're allowed that here.

I'll stay 100% on topic when you give a little better advice.

I agree with a clean install, when possible, if all is backed up.

But soldering a motherboard?? Come on now...

[Soap]

Well soldering is necessary when you've got to reconstruct a motherboard. Sure, stripped bread ties will work, but are easily torn apart and just don't look as good.

[r8500]

Originally posted by Soap
Well soldering is necessary when you've got to reconstruct a motherboard. Sure, stripped bread ties will work, but are easily torn apart and just don't look as good.

Ok, please tell me thats sarcasm.

[dajogejr]

Ok...I'm confused.

I usually use an Arc Welder to repair motherboards...but, I've used a Tig-welder in the past. It's just a matter of voltage...
I've found with the extra current used for welding the boards...they overclock even better!

Yes, that is sarcasm. Quite thickly put...I may add.

How we go from an OS upgrade problem to reconstructing a motherboard is where I got lost in the shuffle.

If re-soldering a motherboard fixes a permissions issue...I'm going to Phone Billy Gates right now, to get that included in his course studies and certification regimen.

(Yep, you guessed it...more sarcasm.)

Sorry...Sutton.

Any luck with your OS problems getting resolved yet??

[rraehal]

Originally posted by dajogejr

Not saying you're wrong...rraehal, but why wouldn't you allow creator/owner full permissions?

Just curious.

I am only saying this is the default setting in XP. I check a 2000 box and found that Everyone has full control. I think the defaults in windows xp were changed to help try and control access to the c drive (as the system owns the c drive not a user?). Now that I think about it a little more it may be a problem setting everyones permisson as most restrictive access = effective access in most cases.

Maybe suttonmf should just set all these setting to full control and specify options later for specific restrictions on folders or files. I think XP is designed to give CREATOR/OWNER full control access to files when they are created, But does not need the CREATOR/OWNER to specfic access to the C: drive itself.

Here is my picture for CREATOR/OWNER. I have not changed any local settings since install about 1 to 2 months ago. I let the network handle access as I am on a Domain (NT4) and only domain admins can access my PC remotely other regular users can not.

[dajogejr]

Gotcha..RR.

I'm in a similar boat...Enterprise Admin here. Give me a free roam... he he.

Nice to only have to use one User ID and password throughout the domain to get stuff done.

Yeah, that everyone with full control can get you. I'm all for full blown access for a home user/ Home PC...but, on a network, as I'm sure you'll attest...it's best to practice tight permissions and ease up or grant more as needed!!!

[suttonmf]

After much gritting of teeth. a full wipe of the hard drive , followed by a full reinstall of the os and other programs, fixed the issue. as long as were fixing the motherboard in the ways mentioned above, lets just go ahead and drill a hole in the center, this shoudl balance the board. Thansk for the advice and humor, it helped to make this process easier. actually i have found that driving over the board several times with my car will give a very conclusive result.

Thanks again all