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    New Comp and REALLY low 3dmark 2001 scores.

    I just upgraded my computer, new mobo, cpu, ram and power supply only to find that I have pretty much no performance increase. Running now:

    AMD 2100+ XP T-bird
    Chaintech 7VJL Apogee KT 400 Deluxe Motherboard
    256 MB DDR 3200 RAM
    480W ATX Power Supply
    GF4 Ti 4200 128 MB

    *no overclocking*

    With this my 3dmark2001 score is: 7288. A lot lower then what I see people with similar systems getting. What is even more disturbing is what I got with my old system. With a 1.2 Duron, 356 MB PC 133 RAM, and a cheap as mobo (with same vid card), I scored 5625 on 3dmark2001.

    Something must be wrong. Can anybody help?

    I have defragged my HD, turned off vsync on my card, AA and AF is off, using win98 with NOTHING running in the background except systray and explorer, installed my mobo drivers, got Direct X 8.1, and the latest dedonater drivers.

    There is something else that leads me to believe that something is wrong. I can only run the 3dmark2001 benchmark on x16 color. On 32 it constantly crashes on the high quality car chase demo. I have tried reinstalling it severaly times.

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    That's Actually a LEGIT score

    Those OTHER scores you see are FAKE, they are all OC-ed scores

    to get those scores you must sacrify stability

    OC the RAM, OC the Video RAM, OC the CPU, and OC the GPU

    and some needs to crack their CPU

    do short outs of the GPU

    Inclease the Voltage for GPU and CPU to damaging levels

    etc

    all kind of crazy stuff

    oh BTW, you need Water cooling and refrigerator for that to work

    and buy lots of additional FANs, and Sinks for all stuff

    just waste of time, money and ... well
    is your choice


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    Well a major concern that I am having is that it actually runs slower in my games then did my old one. Legit score or not, that is not right.

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    I just tried another disturbing test. I went to www.gamespot.com and looked at their 2100+ review/preview, and set 3dmark2001 to the same settings they have to test the cpu. This is 640x480 on software T&L (site says this relies more on the cpu than the vid card). I have the same cpu, same amount of ram and low and behold they score ~4800 and I get ~3800. 1000 LESS!?!?! WTF!?!

    Also allgamer, my last system was not overclocked at all.

    I also check the memory status through 3dmark2001, and it says only 185 of my 256 megs are available. Like i said, there is nothing running in the background so wtf is hogging all my ram?

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    Does the Mobo has ONBOARD Video?

    if so it might be sharing those RAM with it


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    GO into the display properties in the controlpanel, reset all the performance stuff to defaults, update the drivers to the latest from www.nvidia.com and update your mobo drivers to boot

    --Jakk

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    Do you mean like the nforce2 boards have a gf2 mx whatever on board? If you do then no, it just has onboard audio....which also is not working very well. Static *popping* noises keep coming out from my speakers regardless of what volume I have it set at.

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    Originally posted by Bigjakkstaffa
    GO into the display properties in the controlpanel, reset all the performance stuff to defaults, update the drivers to the latest from www.nvidia.com and update your mobo drivers to boot

    --Jakk
    Done, did it, done, did it, done. These are always the first things that I do. I never bother posting on boards until I try all the basics first.

    However, I can't find any mobo drivers, besides the ones that come on a CD with the board.

    One thing is getting my attention though. Under the card properties (display-settings-advanced-ti 4200), the bus mode says its AGP (PCI mode). If I recall correctly, on my last setup it said 4x AGP and no PCI to speak off. I already changed the BIOS setting on the mobo to run at 4x AGP but this didn't affect it.

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    Yeah, you need to update your mobo drivers. Whatmake and model is your motherboard? Is it a via chipset?

    --Jakk

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    It can be the VIA chipset....try to update those: get the new hyperion drivers if it`s a via Chipset as Jakk said.

    I`m was getting 7300 with an Abit Kt7a (Kt133a) and a Gainward Geforce3 Ti 200....

    I believe your score is a little low.

    oh and by the way..I`m not into overclocking.

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    Originally posted by Bigjakkstaffa
    Yeah, you need to update your mobo drivers. Whatmake and model is your motherboard? Is it a via chipset?

    --Jakk
    Board is: 7VJL Deluxe AMD Socket A VIA KT 400 + WT8235 ATX Motherboard. Link to board:
    http://www.chaintech.com.tw/eng/prod...VJL-Deluxe.asp

    The Chaintech site CONFUSES THE HELL OUT OF ME! They have new SIS drivers, VIA drivers etc etc, but doesn't say what board they will work with......or am I just a dumbass and they work with all of them?

    The BIOS drivers are labelled for specific boards. Only ones for mine basicall adjust the clock settings......not much.

    Here is a link for the newest chaintech drivers page (look @ bottom)

    http://www.chaintech.com.tw/News/index.htm
    are these the ones I need to install?
    Last edited by Zach1; 02-19-2003 at 03:21 PM.

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    http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2

    Get the hyperion drivers

    --Jakk

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    Well this is just fing great. 3dMark 2001 won't even run now. It will get through a test or 2 then crash to the desktop.

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    try to uninstall 3dMark and resintall it.

    are you able to do a clean install of Win?

    I would do it in this order:
    -Format
    -Install SP1 (get the self exctracting archive from Microsoft website)
    -Install Mobo drivers and Hyperion drivers.
    -Install Video Card Drivers
    -Install DX9
    -install 3Dmark2001




    Ops..never mind..just noticed you`re using WIN98

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    did you try Loading the Hyperion 4.5 drivers yet?

    that should help out



    BTW, if it's THAT bad, crashing after 2nd test

    then you are in some Serious Hardware Compatibility case here

    try removing or Dissabling Audio

    also dissable com 1 and com 2

    if you don''t use printer, also dissable lpt 1

    that should help

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