Cloning Seagate to Western Digital 2 TB-HDD with clonezilla-WINXP

After heavy problems cloning with True Image 2014 Pro(one can use other than WD drive too) i first ran SFC then switched to Clonezilla first with default. second time with repair-option but it hanged couldnt copy bootloader. at that time from first trial all four partitions were visible.
After second time the volume was gone, so i had it set. First i will retry without formatting.
What do you think? Formatting or not? HDDs are of identical sizes.
Seagate= Donor
WD on external esata-enclosure Orico 6518series 3.5"
WINXP

Hdd to hdd and everything should clone.

Was not working. did a quickformat and afterwards normal formatting. told: not done errorfree.
I wonder of Sea to Sea would work.
Will then first try(when formatting is errorfree) on slower sata-slot on MOBO.
maybe docking-station is the problem or its esata-cable. have no replacement yet. trying usb would last endless.
UPDATE:
Was showing a "minus" and dynamic . asked to reactivate or convert to base drive.
did reactivate. is dynamic. i could delete volume.
What next?

Are you sure you want that?
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...(v=vs.85).aspx

No but i will reread.
Maybe you could give me a hint....
Must it be Basic since it must boot.
And i could make a clone it booted but lately it hang.
Only dont know how-not with which program it was Trueimage 2014, 2015 not working with winxp- but which connection was used. direct second slow sata-slot, external quick esata slot oc pci-esata.
maybe drive never had been healthy,mus be replaced. maybe best getting a different than the WG green WD20 EZRX.
Its a new one only used for cloning. Was ready for use in win7 but i decided to use a newer backup-drive than the old one where i would have deleted stuff during cloning.

Since the Donor is Basis also the takeup-HD must be basis right?
When not having set the volume it will not be recognized for cloning, right?
and i did never set a drive-letter. only after first trial with clonezilla which i interrupted partitons were created and letters assigned. but no partition-access then.

Basis-Primary- Formatting running, i see %tic now. i am hopeful. will first do cloning with clonezilla with drive attached to slow SATA-slot. MOBO is outside case.

Formatted WD-clone-takeup-drive. errorfree.
Will now shut down PC. was running quite long.
Then coling with clonezilla drive attached to internal slow sata-slot. or maybe i should try first the quick one where external one is attached?
how long to clone 2TB? speed is 3gb/sec.
I can hardly believe it can be done in 2000/3 secs.= 666sec/11 min. slot sata half of that speed.

SFC.ex /scannow done. had to adjust path to i386.

Why we take notes.

I am unsure how i will clone now the clean drive. clonezilla instead of True image 2014 used for winxp-system.
maybe best to first try on second quick sata-slot directly. next time when testing esata all backup up data could be lost....

could clone the drive with cloenzilla. will now backup systempartition with clonezilla leaving Trueimage alone for now.
will later try again with takeup on docking-station with new cable.
Or i will wait until win7-system is ready to do the same. i like incremental option in Trueimage.
only cloning was the problem.
I am currently on the cloned drive. only removed data-cable on donor.
Is there a rule-when working with backup-systemdrives systemparition activated or not. why should i deactivate when not used as bootdrive?

saving systempartition with clonezilla.
tried but failed-to understand? partition to image then.
at first trial cd was spitten out but system was blocked. maybe better loading to ram.
And instructions where to save is misunderstandibly.
i marked the donor-partion and in next step they do not say pls mark where to save....
and when i wanted to reboot system was blocked....
Still winxp. will now change CD.

marked systempartition to be imaged but clonezilla only is showing me directories of the actual drive. no chance to save to external drive.

have found an instruction in german. hope its working now:
https://subsetlines.files.wordpress....clonezilla.pdf

Could resolve the misteries mentioned before:
1. one must wait for commands to do next steps. e.g. shutdown or reboot.
2. other than in Trueimage Clonezilla wants DESTINATION FIRST!
3. German help-file differs from original Boot-CD(also in german one can choose).
Helpfile telling one must define where the image must be written.

In CD its telling system must know from where it must be recovered..... Strange and silly!
Now on the search of the perfect CLONEZILLA-version....

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2. other than in Trueimage Clonezilla wants DESTINATION FIRST!

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Forgot that. But I slowed down and paid attention real close as I went through each step.

Newest version much quicker but: maybe you understand german: this is from the manual-see above pdf-link:
clonezilla

Hänge Clonezilla Imageverzeichnis ein??????

Bevor Sie das System klonen, müssen Sie festlegen wohin das Clonezilla-Image geschrieben und wieder zurückgelesen wird. Dieses

Gerät(oder die Netzwerk-ressource) wird als /home/partimag gemountet(????)Das Clonezilla-Image wird auf /home/partimag

geschrieben bzw. von dort gelesen.

ist this quite clear?
but there are some ??????
Must tell them to change also this.

in original no german understands repository......and mounting

didnt know imaging a partition is also cloning. thought cloning is real duplicating.

When you clone a drive, you copy everything on it onto another drive, so that the two are effectively identical. Normally, you would clone to an internal drive made external via a SATA/USB adapter or enclosure.


But imaging a drive is more like creating a great big .zip file (without the .zip extension). Image backup software copies everything on the drive into a single, compressed, but still very large file. You would probably save the image onto an external hard drive.

More
http://www.pcworld.com/article/20298...s-imaging.html

Thats why the definition in german is so misleading. must also criticize this in clonezilla-forum.
as i mentioned above: IN german: before you clone the system you must define where the image is stored.....

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Originally Posted by Train

When you clone a drive, you copy everything on it onto another drive, so that the two are effectively identical. Normally, you would clone to an internal drive made external via a SATA/USB adapter or enclosure.


But imaging a drive is more like creating a great big .zip file (without the .zip extension). Image backup software copies everything on the drive into a single, compressed, but still very large file. You would probably save the image onto an external hard drive.

More
http://www.pcworld.com/article/20298...s-imaging.html

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and one can define how large its splitted.
incrementel(only data saved which has altered) seems not exist in clonezilla.
http://www.backup-utility.com/articl...-4348.htm.html

orico has a docking-station(around 320 usd) which allows backing up without PC even partitions(if i dont err)

You, I believe, are remembering right. Put the hdd in one slot, the blank hdd in the other slot, and it clone to the second hdd.

NO PC needed.

No, it seem you can NOT split it for dvds.

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Originally Posted by Train

You, I believe, are remembering right. Put the hdd in one slot, the blank hdd in the other slot, and it clone to the second hdd.

NO PC needed.

No, it seem you can NOT split it for dvds.

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clonezilla has splitoption, is set as default, had to increase setting to get one file.
this is interesting:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORICO-U3ST...UAAOSwdkpZd~tM

http://www.orico.cc/goods.php?id=5943

maybe i am confusing with one which can image systempartition without pc. That one was 320 usd. maybe prices dropped tremdously. will check them out.

Been a while since we last looked at them.

Looks like prices have dropped nicely.

Here is their list and lots of them clone now.
http://www.orico.cc/category.php?id=416

one is Ide/Sata the other SATA/SATA.
prices must have dropped tremendously.
one cannot find on ebay. only copies....
the one which i saw years ago for 320 usd could copy partitions without pc.

Well keep reading I guess.