Quote:
really love to suck in Arctic Silver and the CPU apparently dies as a result
|
Artic silver is the worse thing you can use on a CPU. It's conductive and completely unstable. Benchmarks favour it, but it soon dries and completely reverses the effects as it cannot cope with the heat cycles and also strains the CPU with its anomalous behaviour. It needs to reaplly every 2-months because it looses all its properties. It is also a nightmare to clean as it tends to liquify at high temperatures, and finally the price is a joke. For the difference to the silicon based goo, you can get a better cooler anyway and have peace of mind. Unfortunately there is so much hype around AS that people get really offended whenever I post. AS has done a great PR job and have filled the web with "reviews". People think that because the can afford $7 for it, it's ok to buy it and don't realise that they pay about 500% more than the white stuff, that performs marginally worse but lasts for years. So don't use it, or if you do, don't complain. The thing is completely innappropriate for use near sensitive electronics. And if you think I'm full of it, I can acertain you that all the above comes from rigorous testing of AS when our collegues next door were looking cooling solution for some LEDs (cooled by peltiers and water coolers) and it's tested scientifically, not "reviewed" by some 18 year old at his mom's house.
Quote:
And it only voids your waranty if they know you overclocked.
|
So, you are a thief only if they catch you right? Good thinking, but you won't go far on this.
Quote:
(You can stop the fan for any new Celeron chip around 1-1.4 GHz, for example, and if system is not under load, it will run fine without the fan! Try this with ANY AMD XP chip? It'll burn in less than a coupla minutes, probably.)
|
That's why I said before
stop reading tom's site because they spread FUD like no other, on behalf of whoever pays their bills (and this time it was intel). I can acertain you, that an XP can run witout fan (but with heatsink) for at least 36 hours without burning. So no the XP will NOT burn without a fan. Without a HS it will burm but I've never heard on a heatsing falling off. If yours did, sorry but it's your fault. As for which CPU can run without cooling without damage, you wouldn't drain your car's radiator and see if it worked, would you? So keep your "experiences" to yourself and learn how to put a HS properly on the CPU.
Quote:
If I buy Athlon, things become more difficult, as it is already like overclocked
|
It is? Oh maybe AMD is intel's spin off where they get rid of lower quality pentiums (oh sorry, those were left for the Celeron line, so image what were throwing at AMD). You're not serious are you?
Quote:
and its only problem is the narrow 100 MHz RAM bus; if you can live with that, then it's your chip.
|
That and the fact it's 5 years old design it's not even worth thinking about it. Oh and you usually need a new mobo, so it will be an upgrate (with a bright future I can add, you'll have to buy anew next again). The Duron was running circles around the Celeron (inc the Tualatin), was cheaper and has a valid upgrade path, but you chose to
live with that in favour of what? price? performance? what? I wonder.
Quote:
The P4b now runs at a bus speed of 533Mhz (133mhz Quad pumped) and is sure to give AMD a run for its money for now.
|
It's all about CPU architecture. Remember the effect of Rambus on the P3? or DDR for that matter? None! It couldn't care less.
Now Remember the effect of PC133 on the P4 (yes those poor souls who were talked into 1700Mhz of intel power built by ***** (put your OEM manufacturer name there) using SDR to lower costs and selling price)?
The P4 starves for bandwidth. It needs it. The Athlon is not that sensitive although it should be said that at 166Mhz FSB the XP makes up most of the difference to the 2.53G P4 without increasing the clock speed. Also, it's a matter of marketing. Higher numbers sell for intel so they want them to sound high too.