Do i need to buy a second copy of win98?!

[[H2O]Tman]

I am planning on putting a new system together soon and im wondering if i have to buy a second copy of win98. I already have win98 second edition installed on my first system. It has a WINDOWS STARTS HERE cd and a windows 98 se & windows 98 PLUS! cd as well as the manuel with key on the cover. Can't i just install the same windows copy on the second comp or do i go to jail for that? Thanks!

[justy]

Your right, you can do it,

but you will be condemed to hell for the rest of eternity, for copyright fraud, and Bill Gates himself will send guy's round to break your Windows. Unless you remove the original install from the system it's on?

I don't think, the Member's can advise you on that sort of thing, because of the copyright law's, correct me if I'm wrong?

[Mykex]

As you own all in question PCs and OSs there yours todo with what you like.That is to say if you own 1 Win98 disc and 200 (EDIT:uhh would you beleave I meant to say less than 5????) PCs you can use on all of them as far as I know.

But Im a rebel every tuesday I give discriptions of monday night football at work with only implied verbal consent of the commisionar of the NFL.Forgoing the expressed written consent. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

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[Mntsnow]

Legally the EULA (End User License Agreement) states that the Software can only be LEGALLY installed on only ONE system at any given time. If you choose to install the ONE copy of the software you own to MULTIPLE computers you are in fact breaking the law. Microsoft as well as most software companies would be legally in the right to sue for damages if they choose too. (truthfully it might never come to that but......That is the risk only YOU can decide) but remember we do not support Piracy here at SysOpt!

[Warthog]

Nah...don't do it.

I have one Win98 cd used for two comps. It's a waste of money.

Warthog

[darrelld]

I've been runnin' the same copy of win98 on two pc's and even got MS to give me free phone supoort for it.

[Mntsnow]

darrelld,

I bet you never told MS that you were infact running the software on multiple computers at the same time!

If you want the full truth on this subject visit.
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/

[Savant]

Leagaly you have the right to put on one and only one system, There isn't anything that prevents you from installing it on more than one, but I tend to go with the leagal way. (but then, I also don't have the same os on any of my comps either...)
Savant

[Mykex]

Would have never thought that to be the case but I tend to trust the opinons here. I think I am going to sew those tags back on my mattress. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif Now I guess I should go back and read the EULA ...lol. It doesnt sound right but thats the facts.

I have never actually used it on 2 at once I just keep moving it from system to system. Just kind of bugs me though almost like being told I can only use one tape on one vcr and buy anouther tape to view it on the vcr in my bedroom. Without ever making a copy of coarse.

[darrelld]

Yeah, I did. This was before I knew any better. I had used up my phone support, so I figured since this was a different install on a new computer I should be entitled to support for that too. They informed me I was wrong then proceeded to give me another product ID and told me to call back and use the new ID. Which I did.
I do know this is considered piracy by Microsoft, apparently I was lucky enough to be talking to a disgruntled employee.
PS: I'm not advocating this, just relating my experience.

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[gyoung]

Here is the first paragraph of the EULA (End User License Agreement):
Systems Software. You may install and use one copy of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT on a single computer, including a workstation, terminal or other digital electronic device ("COMPUTER"). You may permit a maximum of five (5) COMPUTERS to connect to the single COMPUTER running the SOFTWARE PRODUCT solely to access the Internet using the Internet Connection Sharing feature of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT. You may not allow these connected COMPUTERS to use any other components of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, nor to invoke application sharing as described below. The five (5) connection maximum includes any indirect connections made through software or hardware which pools or aggregates connections.

At first I thought it was use. Meaning you could have two copies installed but only one could be used at a time. Microsoft's products don't fall under that.

The part that interests me is the 5 computers connected maximum. Does that mean if you run a webserver from your PC that if more than 5 people are viewing at one time you are technically violating the agreement? Or is it just through connection sharing?

Just a thought.

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[Mykex]

Well this cat is just too curious so I should have an official responce from MS in a few days. Hopefully I dont get raided by Bill Gates's goon squad. LOL It seems a bit extravagent for a home user on 2 PCs to need to purchase a whole new CD or to get involved in one of there 5 or more PC licensing agreements. Also the number 5 seems to have some point of interest at this......We shall see.

[desmocat]

This brings up an interesting point, where I work, we had a software system designed and implemented for keeping up with production,etc,.. and evidently they only bought a license for access by a limited number of people. What is bad is that sometimes when I have to access the system,I can't because an error message will appear and tell me the # of users logged on at that time exceeds the available license.

That's cool they built that into the software,but it really pi$$es me off sometimes because alot of the sales people don't log off before they go home and it can lock down the database for an hour or more because of the timeout period that the system allows you to have an inactive session. And of course, the helpdesk folks bolt at 5:00pm too,and all I get is a message to have someone paged. but I have the last laugh, I know the help desk people pretty well because I help them out with minor probs in my dept and I can call up during regular hours when I get the error and they will boot a few people off so I can get on. Mess with me!! Remember,geeks rule the world... Mp

[Beemer]

A friend of mine just had Cable Internet installed and he was nervous about having a pirated copy of Win98. The installer used the copy without a flinch and my buddy asked him if there are any problems with the bootlegged copy being used to install the Ethernet Adaptor software. The installers reply was "He hasn't seen but 10 original copies of Windows to date". I guess that piracy is out there, pretty wide spread.

Cheers!

[bdunn]

You are not supposed to install on more than 1 PC according to the EULA. I understand that but have a problem with it. I have 2 machines in different locations that are never simultaneously in use. I don't see why I should have to have a seperate license as I'm never using the software in 2 places at once.

If I'm reading a novel I don't need a seperate copy for my home and lunchtime at the office. I can bring it with me. I think software should be the same way.

[Mntsnow]

Bdunn,

That is why on SOME MS "software" it is legal to install it on a laptop CONCURRENTLY.
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/atrisk/faq/default.asp

pay perticular attention to questions #3 and 4 for answers to your question

[c0r3file]

Moot point. You cannot legally obtain a copy of Windows98 by any means now even if you WANTED a 2nd copy. I recently contacted Microsoft and was told "We don't sell that anymore. Feel free to purchase WindowsME."

*sigh* *shakes head* Whatever Microsoft, whatever...

[Mykex]

Well I got a reply it said that i should call for more info.......
Complete information concerning corporate and multiple licensing agreements may be viewed at: http://www.microsoft.com/enterprise/licensing/default.htm . Pricing and licensing information may be located at: http://www.microsoft.com/directaccess/products/partnumbers . Both Web links and downloadable forms may be accessed from this site. However, due to the complexity of multiple licenses we suggest contacting a Microsoft Licensing Support Consultant at (800) 426-9400. Have a wonderful day.products.comDexterWeb Product Solutions GroupOne last item: microsoft.com wants to be certain we respond quickly and accurately to customer feedback. Please help us evaluate the quality of our feedback service by taking a moment to fill out a survey. It takes only a few minutes, and will help guide us in future improvements. You will find the survey at: http://206.31.10.50/srv/4300402-1.aspMicrosoft Corporation

From reading all of this leagle mombojumbo it seems to me that you can in fact use your copy of windows on less than 5 PCs on a lan or for home use. If you would like to use it on 5 or more you need to use one of microsofts liecencing agreement packadges.