Dial-Up network question

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In my LAN i'm trying to use a D-Link Dl711 wireless router. The problem i have is should i set up a NAT configuration if the router is used for DHCP & the dial-up computer is seperate? I wan't to use the wireless LAN connectivity on my network. I have a computer w/two NICs on it (win98) i need some configuration help

thanks

[BipolarBill]

Dial-up and LAN are two different worlds. One should not affect the other. I suppose you are adding the Wireless for laptop access? Do you have another router or is this the only one?

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I realize dial-up and LAN are two differant worlds. I'm trying to get my laptop to work wirelessly with my network. I would also like to be able to use the dial-up internet (cable is coming). My network setup is as follows:

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D-Link DI711 Wireless gateway
Linksys 5-port workgroup switch
Linksys WPC11 instant wireless PC Card
400 Mhz Celeron Win98se workstation w/2 NICs
300 Mhz Celeron HP running mandrake 8.1
733 mHz Compaq Presario ME workstation
Dell Inspiron 4100 1 gHz Laptop running XP

I understand the concept of the router, but i'm not an expert on networking. I have a dial-up connection on the ME workstation and i can run like either wingate, or sygate internet sharing to make the connection work. I will move one of the NICs from the win98se workstation if i need...

I know the router has a configuration via browser that allows settings to be altered (i think i can change the same settings through telnet). I imagine i need to use the gateway as a DHCP server... can i do that and use a differant gateway for the dial-up?

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Also i have a configuration utility for the Linksys PC Card... I can change channel and ESSID settings...

[BipolarBill]

That's some mixed-up network you have! Until you get cable, I don't think that you should go DHCP from the D-Link. As it is now, Sygate is the DHCP server. If you let the D-Link take over DHCP, you will lose ICS. Disable DHCP on the D-Link until you get cable.

Leave the laptop as a DHCP client and install the Sygate client on it. You have to configure it to receive dial-up services wirelessly from the Sygate host. That is going to be your biggest challenge.

Once you obtain cable (insist on an Ethernet modem BTW), things get easier. You dump the Sygate setup and let the D-Link handle everything - NAT, DHCP and routing.

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thanks man i figured it was a crazy setup! just wanted to try some new ****!

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In order to set it up physically, would I plug the router into the hub or into the comp w/2 nics?

so it would be either:

I.Celeron 400(2nics)---Celeron 300---Compaq (dial-up)--{Router}
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Hub


or


II.Celeron 300--Compaq (dial-up)
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Hub
|
Celeron 400
|(crossover cable)
Router?

In the second configuration i listed, i believe the computers' function network wise would be to route between the wireless network and the LAN... I'm just unsure on whether the D-link is capable of running the LAN w/out the WAN using an internet connection..

[BipolarBill]

The router should go on the outbound NIC of the internet host. You should dump the x-over for a regular patch cable too.

Why does it have two NICs, anyway?

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Outbound port of the dhcp server meaning the compaq (intenet host) would have 2 nics? Or would i plug the hub into the WAN port?

[BipolarBill]

Ok...you're using dial-up and ICS one one PC, right? If that PC is the one with two NICs, put the router on the outbound NIC. If it's the PC with one NIC, put the router between the NIC and the hub.

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so your saying the dial-up and ICS comp. only needs one NIC?

[BipolarBill]

Yes...the modem connects to the net and the NIC to the rest of your network - on the host. You have a second one for nothing?

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Actually the second one belongs in my Duron 800 but it isn't in yet...

Just to double check, i plug the ICS computer into the LAN port on the router and the WAN from the router into the hub correct?

[BipolarBill]

You don't use WAN at all 'till you have cable. WAN=wide area network=internet. Your modem is doing that.

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Yea man i'm aware the modem is being used as the WAN; I just don't understand how you can plug the router into the ICS Host when the ICS host is already plugged into the switch.... Thats why i figured i needed 2 NICS but like you said i didn't

[BipolarBill]

That's right. The laptop wll get ICS not from the WAN port on the new router, but simply over your network. As I have said, once you get cable, the cable modem goes to the WAN port and an the network port on the router goes to the switch/hub. at that point, all PCs (including the laptop) are DHCP clients and Sygate/Wingate go bye-bye. ;)

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Yeah i understand it all... the only thing i was unclear on was whether the Sygate host needed to have 2 nics (im kind of new to routers). I just got my A+ like 2 1/2 weeks ago.. I want to get my MCSE do you know of any really good schools? I will most likely teach myself everything almost but i need something to back that like a degree.

[BipolarBill]

The Sygate host only needs a 2nd NIC when you have an Ethernet internet connection. You have an analog modem which is used in place of the Ethernet WAN.

Schools vary quite a bit from city to city. New Horizons is nationwide and is a very good school. ITT is everywhere as well. Ask around at local PC clubs.

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I posted a reply as a new topic!!! I don't come on forums much!! Sorry about this guys!