AGP Voodoo 3 2000 v/s PCI Radeon 7200

[darkclaw]

Which would you go with and why? Just curious as I have both of these and wonder what the group consensus is on both.

Thanks,

DC

[Peter12]

If you are running win xp then the voodoo card will not have glide. The 3dfx voodoo3/2000 runs great in win98. But there is no support for win xp. There are some 3rd party patches for voodoo but I could not get them to install properly. Great card if you are running win98.

[Rugor]

PCI Radeon 7200

It allows 32bit color gaming, and most importantly: The company is still in business!

[Lycia]

That's like comparing the Pentium 200mmx to the PII400.

3dfx Voodoo3 2000. 16MB RAM AGP, November 15, 1999

or,


RADEON 7200, AGP 64MB SDR 2048x1536 VGA, present.


There is no question on which card you'd use for anything. The Radeon is hands down better in every way that the Voodoo3.

[darkclaw]

I know there would be no contest if it were both being agp, but the Radeon is only PCI Lycia.

[Rugor]

Ok, really dumb question here darkclaw.


Why not use both? Though personally having ATI still be in business is what does it for me. Also 3Dfx didn't have a great AGP implementation in the first place so the Radeon still wins.

[JeffD]

Hi darkclaw,

Actually, it's still no contest even though one is PCI and the other is AGP....why?

-- AGP Voodoo is really just a PCI card in a AGP slot. 3dfx never incorporated any of the advanced features of AGP into the Voodoo3 so performance is then same whether they are AGP or PCI.

-- AGP is really only of value if your video card does not have much on board memory (say less than 32MB) and are running higher resolutions and color depth in games (say 1024x768x32 and above). Consequently, a PCI card that has decent memory will perform quite well........as long as you're not trying to run at extreme resolutions where you're taxing the system to the max.

Regards,

JeffD

[darkclaw]

You know, JeffD, I have no clue why I didn't remember that in the first place. Now I either feel really senile, or really sleep deprived and I'm not sure which...thanks for bringing me back to reality.

[mentat_void]

Originally posted by Lycia
That's like comparing the Pentium 200mmx to the PII400.

3dfx Voodoo3 2000. 16MB RAM AGP, November 15, 1999

or,


RADEON 7200, AGP 64MB SDR 2048x1536 VGA, present.


There is no question on which card you'd use for anything. The Radeon is hands down better in every way that the Voodoo3.

Umm... year has nnothing to do with it. Take this for example:
I went out and got a gf2 mx made in march of '01 and got lousy performance in Counter Strike and other games--so, I took it back and kept my voodoo 3 with its 80 to 99 fps all the time in CS with same computer--and it was made in '99 dummy.

[JeffD]

Hi mentat_void,

Voodoo 3 2000 is not a bad card....considering it's clocked at 143MHz (well below that of a Voodoo 3500) and only has 16MB ram and can only do 16 bit color (vs. 32 bit).

While you had bad luck with a GF2 MX remember that the MX line is nvidia's budget card and if you got the MX200 then you really got nvidia's "lowest of the low" end cards.

Even then a GF2 MX should perform decently in many of today's games and should compete well/beat many times an older Voodoo 2000 except in glide based games such as Unreal, Sports Car GT, etc. If the GF2 MX doesn't perform well then a conflict is present, poor video drivers are being used....and countless other variables which is reducing performance (the biggie here is making sure when upgrading a Vodoo based card is to completely remove all driver files before installing new card....since there is no easy way to remove the Voodoo drivers one must search the hard drive and remove manually many files to be sure).

Regards,

JeffD

[tomas.danek]

Originally posted by darkclaw
Which would you go with and why? Just curious as I have both of these and wonder what the group consensus is on both.

Thanks,

DC

Try to download HoE 1.0 drivers for WinXP. Driver set is derived from Win2000 ver1.4 and it works VERY WELL. ( GLIDE works too )

I only missed hardware video overlay brightness control - it's set to WindowsXP defaults...

TC!
T.

Please note that nVidia has buggy hardware video overlay brightness control for YEARS :)