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bowhunter
12-31-2001, 12:55 AM
What is the main performance differences between the T-Birds and the XP's?
Which one would be best for a gamer? How about for business applications?
Anyone know if AMD will make a T-Bird faster than 1.4 or is that where the T-Bird will end?
On another forum someone kept referring to the "Hammer". I didn't know what it was so I ask. The response was "The Hammer is what will drive the nails into Intels' coffin":rolleyes: Anyway it ain't supposed to show up until 2003. I take it, it is a processor of some sort? Anyone here know anything about it?
I'm still waiting on my hard drive, video card and modem to get here before I fire up my new system, so I was wondering: Would it be wise for me to remove my HSF and scrape off the thermal pad and use thermal grease in its place? How much grease should I apply if I choose to use it? Is there an easy way to get the HSF retaining clip to clip on the socket? I had a devil of a time getting it on, so I reluctant to take it off to change thermal pad for thermal grease. I don't know what brand the HSF is but it came with the processor (1.3 T-Bird retail package).
InnovaZero
12-31-2001, 01:24 AM
XP's are a good deal faster then T-birds and run at cooler temp.
In real world performance they are about 5-15% faster and in benchmarks a good 20%
Of course as computers move on, XP will be used more as a CPU and spread itself from the T-birds.
lildude
12-31-2001, 02:19 PM
the hammer that the other forum was referring to was the codename for the core of the cpu. like when the durons moved from the spitfire to the new morgan core. and when the athlons moved to the t-bird core, and then xp core.
BTW: you should most definatly take off that nasty thermal **** that came with the cpu and put on some nice thermal paste such as arctic silver 2 or alumina. (especially since you are running a 1.3GHz t-bird those things get HOTTT). you only need a small amount of the stuff, just enough until you can BARELY see the writing on the cpu. and you might wanna get a shim to avoid cracking the core when you take off and put on the hsf.
Recordlord
12-31-2001, 03:17 PM
Hammer Is the CPU of AMDs future. Hammers will be able to run 32 64 bit applications while you will need two seperate Intel cpus to run 32 bit and 64 bit. Do you remember when PCs made the jump from 16 bit to 32 bit?? There will be huge gains in performance just like then. I think the markets (NYSE - NASDAQ) will react accordingly. This jump just might bring us out of the financial woes we are experiencing.
bowhunter
12-31-2001, 05:40 PM
This is my first build so please let me know how to use a shim. Where to put it and so on. I've read that thermal compound can be had Radio Shack.
What do I use to put the compound on the core with? After I scrape the pad off of the heat sink do I need to clean it with anything? If so, what?
lildude
12-31-2001, 06:04 PM
to use a shim, u put it directly on the cpu. it should keep your core from getting cracked. you can get a good one from the ppl over at coolerguys (http://www.coolerguys.com/). don't get the crappy thermal compound found at radioshack, becuz itz really cruddy stuff. i highly recommend either arctic silver 2 or alunima, both of which can be found at coolerguys (http://www.coolerguys.com/). to put the compound on the core, follow directions over at the arctic silver website located here (http://www.arcticsilver.com/). finally, use the edge of a credit card to scrape off the thermal pad on the hsf and clean it with some rubbing alcohol. hope that helps.
lildude
12-31-2001, 06:05 PM
to use a shim, u put it directly on the cpu. it should keep your core from getting cracked. you can get a good one from the ppl over at coolerguys (http://www.coolerguys.com/). (they will also show u how to install it.) don't get the crappy thermal compound found at radioshack, becuz itz really cruddy stuff. i highly recommend either arctic silver 2 or alumina, both of which can be found at coolerguys (http://www.coolerguys.com/). to put the compound on the core, follow directions over at the arctic silver website located here (http://www.arcticsilver.com/). finally, use the edge of a credit card to scrape off the thermal pad on the hsf and clean it with some rubbing alcohol. hope that helps.
Kurylo
12-31-2001, 09:31 PM
XP's are faster, support a new 3DNow! Professional features, have bigger frequences, dissipate less heat, take less power, and are more stable for the almost equal to TB's price.
bowhunter
12-31-2001, 11:39 PM
Guess I should have waited and ordered me an XP.
Oh, well no use crying over spilled milk!! I'm sure the 1.3 T-Bird is more than enough CPU for me. Actually it's more like overkill.
As long as it works when I fire it up on Thursday!! I'll be all :D :D :D :D 's!!!
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