Maximum lengths of AGP and PCI cards?

[LittleKing]

I am building a completely custom case, and I want to make sure I dedicate enough room for the largest of large cards (ie. Voodoo5 5000, and 6000). Although not that many cards required the maximum length, I want to make sure that any thing will fit. So if you know what the specs are, or could point me in the right direction, that would be great. I've look at Intel's site and search the web some but no luck.

Thanks
LK

[drizzle]

LittleKing, if you don't get any response before this evening, I can check on that for you when I get home. I've got the AGP Voodoo5 5500 in my workstation so I could give you it's exact measurements...I know it's a BIG card. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[LittleKing]

That will be a big help, however, if anybody know the exact length limit, that would be better, but any length is approached. Thanks drizzle

LK

[Erap!]

littleking:

since ur making a "custom" case, i think it would be advisable to make it a lot bigger than the voodoo5 units. They pack a lot of heat and if you're expecting to cool the system with e v5 inside, i think you ought to leave a lot of room!

[LittleKing]

This is mainly a bump^^, but I do want to comment on Erap! suggestion.

I feel it isn't the size that matters, but quality of performance. Hey, get your mind out of the gutter, I'm talking computers here. lol http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif It's not the size of the case, but the air flow. You can build the computer with no case (the biggest space I can think of), but if you don't have proper air flow around the components then the space is useless. My goal when I build my case is to effectively direct the airflow through the case and past the "critical" hot parts of the system.

LK

[Erap!]

Hahahaha comment on your's! #1, if the card fit's too snugly inside, you wont have airflow! Unless u start punching holes everywhere! And you can't get 100% circulation on you system and there will still be spots that retain heat. The bigger the casing, the more spread out the airspace. (i think) #2 haha try making the computer on a rack without a casing! Trust me, without extra fans, you wont have heat problems! Just concentrate on the processor, the rest will cool itself down! Unless of course you want to go crazy on all ur components and start overclocking everything from your Vidcard to ur MB, in that case, build it without a case and put it in front of the AC hehehe! jk

[drizzle]

Sorry it took so long to get back with you on the cards size. It's roughly 11 inches long...but I would definitely plan on making the case a bit larger than that for air circulation like stated above. Good luck with the project. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[LittleKing]

Erap!, I now see where your coming from, so I would agree with you. I was thinking you meant just make it a very large case. But I see we both agree that air flow is important. Thanks for your input.

Hey thanks drizzle, I keep that in mind. 11 freken inches. That's huge, I don't have that card but just in case I ever have anything that large I build around it.

Thanks again
LK

[This message has been edited by LittleKing (edited 10-19-2000).]

[tonym]

LittleKing:

From the AGP 2.0 Specification, page 209:
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5.2.1 Physical Dimensions and Tolerances
The A.G.P. card, like the PCI card, is designed to fit most existing ATX chassis. (The NLX version of the A.G.P
card has reduced dimensions.) The maximum component height on the primary side of the A.G.P. ATX expansion
card is not to exceed 14.47 mm (0.570 in.). The maximum component height on the backside of the card is not to
exceed 2.667 mm (0.105 in.) unless otherwise specified. Datum W on the illustrations is used to locate the A.G.P.
card to the planar and to the chassis frame interfaces, which could include the back of the chassis frame and the card
guide. Datum W is carried through the locating key on the card edge and the locating key on the connector. See
Figures 5-1A, 5-1B, 5-2, and 5-8 for A.G.P ATX form factor add-in card physical dimensions. See Figure 5-3
through Figure 5-8 for A.G.P NLX form factor add-in card physical dimensions.
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The mechanical drawings are located on pages 210-through 216.

This specification can be d/l'd from: ftp://download.intel.com/technology/agp/downloads/agp20.pdf .

The PCI spec is controlled by the PCI SIG (special Interest Group), and Rev, 2.1 can be purchased at http://www.pcisig.com/ .

I can't find my copy, otherwise I'd give you the max dimensions and save you a few bucks!

Good luck...


Tony