1 tyan tiger vs. 2 1.4 athlons

[leighjag]

I hope some of the experts out there can help me.

after having searched and priced alot of systems and parts I have found that I could put together a tyan dual processor mobo system or I could put together 2 1.4 athlon mobo systems for about the same money.

so the question is "which do I do?"

base your feed back on crunching since this will be the main function of my purchase.

any feedback will be greatly appreciated, as I respect the opinions of a great many on this forum.

leighjag:)

[randy48]

Man, that's a tough question! The dual rig has the advanced chips, but until December when the Gigabyte boards hit the streets (dual overclockability) you cannot overclock them on the tiger! But the depending on the board you get, the 1.4's can be overclocked now!

I'm waiting until December...gotta have the duallie:)

[leighjag]

Thanks randy

That is something I had overlooked in my decision to buy.

is that something I should consider or is overclocking just icing on the cake?

leighjag:confused:

[DVNT1]

A single system sounds cheaper to operate. Less of nearly everything to keep up... hardware, software, power, heat, & even space.

Two systems give you greater flexability (other uses like gaming, backup, etc...)

I'd go with the dual processor system though.

[leighjag]

thanks for the reply DVNT1

should I consider software compatability with dual mobo or will 2k pro or winnt do the trick as far as operating systems?

and what about other software for the dual mobo is it something I should be concerned with?

leighjag:confused:

[jig-miester]

would about 200 people suggest something here. I am leighjag's roomate and I am getting sick of him moaning about all his tuff decisons. btw I am for the two 1.4 seperate computers.
-Jig-

[^hyd^]

I'd go for two!

[Virus]

I vote for 1 AthlonXP 1800+ oced to 1.7Ghz. My supplier already has pricing for them and they are being officially released this week. The strange thing is, they are slightly cheaper then a comparible tbird (could be an error).

You should not have a problem using the AthlonXP's on a 760MP based board either. I know the plain athlons work. So you could do a dual system using them.

As for the AthlonMP's, the 1.4G chips are already popping up all over the place. I have also heard rumors of an even higher clocked version being released soon.

I hope I haven't made it worse. :)

[DVNT1]

should I consider software compatability with dual mobo or will 2k pro or winnt do the trick as far as operating systems?

The only real software compatability issues are with the OS...and W2K Pro or WinNT would be fine.

[randy48]

Do it the easy way and make everyone happy, just build two duallies:) One with MP processors and one with the new XP's:D

Like you've been told, W2K and NT4.0 will both work the dual CPU systems.

[conjh13]

Win98 will also run just fine on a dual proccessor system - it just won't use the second proccessor. Thus I have a dual boot system: win2K and win98SE.

[fshanda]

Oh thats just great. Now I am going to have to go out and buy some more equipment to keep up with team JigMeister;)

Just when I think I have my sites set on the top 3 someone comes thru with some more funds for some kick a.. components.

Thats it, time for a garage sale:D

Dual AMD here I come:D

fshanda:)

[leighjag]

It seems that although a duallie would be prestigous and something to brag about, unless someone can convince me that a duallie would kick the snot out of 2 1.4s (none of them overclocked) it looks like the 2 1.4s have it.

however I will wait till I get a few more responses before taking the plunge

"thank you for your support"

leighjag:D

[engracio]

leighjag,

I use to have 2ea dualie celeron 366/550. What that dualie did for me was I was able to use it as my"server" and have 2 instances of rc5 running for me for the cost of one.

That is the main reason I built them. So that I could crack 2 for the cost/maintenance of one. It would be real good reason to replace my celeron 600/901 raid box holding my mp3 and is now the domain controller.

Granted unless you are using an application which could use both processor, which I don't, you would just have a very powerful box which can really multi task very well.

Go for it, I'll have one soon as price and availability is there. There was just no good duallie available yet for AMD.


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[Detemeat]

Hey, I have an idea!!! You build a dual system, park it at my house and I'll let ya take my 1.33 home with ya:D That way I can go thru all the trouble of getting the bugs out of the system for you;)
A dang fine offer if ya ask me.
Dete

p.s. Wow my 100th post....must slow down...don't like to rush these things:cool:

[cyclone2]

2 x 1.4 you will crack more and always have spare parts if 1 dies later on [let alone being able to test individual components] :p

[randy48]

But think of 2X2X1.2 Twin duallies! A matched set! 4.8 GIGs of pure CRUNCH:D

[Tekkitan]

if you have a roomate, i would get all the computers you could get, and get a bunch of friends together, play some games. while your not using the extra ones, i believe you mentioned 'crunching'. is that like rc5 cracking or something? while those extra systems are not in use, you can use then for that. i'd go with the 2 1.4's

[jig-miester]

Do you mean a lan party?

[Virus]

Randy, what was the model name of that dual gigabyte board?

[randy48]

Aaahhhhh ooooooo IIII don't remember:rolleyes:

I think I still have the message on my machine at work, I'll check in the morning

[hirschY]

Although the Dulie would be GREAT for bragging, unless your gonna run some major programs, I'd go with the two systems.

I had to make this choice myself, with the exception of getting two machines;)

I just went and got a 1.4 'C' and am very happy with it!

Two systems will give you more things to 'play' and 'test' with though.

besides, two machines do give you more play time, and LAN games are really fun!
Nothing like killing your friends;) for fun.

I went with the single system for now, but In July of 2002, I'm getting a DULIE, for my server. By that time, price will be good, and I will be able to afford it:rolleyes:

[leighjag]

well after careful consideration and long thought and way to many beers it looks like the 2 1.4s has it

so heres to "the three mug o' beers":D "all for one till there all gone":D

2 1.4s here I come, think I'll use KG7 RAID boards what do you think?

Jag

[jened]

2 1.4s here I come, think I'll use KG7 RAID boards what do you think?
Oh great, by the time you decide on a motherboard now, you'll be doubting your 1 vs. 2 computer decision again. or perhaps you'll want a faster CPU :)

good luck and i agree with the 2 computer decision.

[jad1097]

Have you looked at the Tiger MP board? It is much cheaper than it's big brother and a little more expensive than the KG7 raid (about $50 more). Unless you need two computers or just want to spend twice the amount -$50 + 2nd monitor + all the cards +other stuff, I would go with this board.


http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigermp.html


http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1537


http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID=114


http://www.azzo.com/test2/mother.html

[leighjag]

jad1097

thank you for the links, I am still researching some things and they will come in handy.

cheers from "the three mug o' beers":D"all for one till there all gone"

jag:D

[leighjag]

parts will come from new egg, ram from crucial

here it is:

ABIT KG7-RAID AMD761 ATX MOTHERBOARD

AMD ATHLON THUNDERBIRD 1.4GHZ VERSION STEPPING AYHJA

THERMALTAKE VOLCANO 6CU. HEATSINK + DUAL BALL-BEARING FAN

INWIN IW-Q700 300 W POWER SUPPLY FULL TOWER CASE ATX

LEADTEK GEFORCE2 MX200 32MB VGA WITH/TV OUT

CREATIVE LABS SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY WITH FIRE WIRE 1394

IBM #IC35L020AVER07 20GB 7200RPM 60GXP ULTRA ATA/100

TEAC 1.44MB 3.5 INCH FLOPPY DRIVE

LINKSKEY LKF-5100 10/100 PCI ETHERNET CARD

CRUCIAL 256MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM

SONY 52X EIDE INTERNAL CD-ROM DRIVE 7,800 KB/SEC. DATA

GRAND TOTAL= 645.00

ANY COMMENTS

JAG:D:D:D

btw will be using kvm box to save on peripherals

[LostBok]

Looks like you've made your decision, but my personal view is that I can only physically USE one computer at a time, so why go nuts building two of them? I've got loads of extra PC's, but only one I devote any real time or energy to:

Here's my baby (due in the next couple of weeks):

dual AMD Athlon MP 1800+ (1533Mhz)
2 x Thermo Engine Heat Pipe
1gig DDR RAM - 4 x 256Mb Micron ECC PC2100 DDR
Tyan Tiger MP Dual Athlon
3-COM 3C905-C-TX 10/100 TX PCI NIC
Chaintech AJR-100r ATA-100 - HPT370 RAID Controller
4 x 61.5Gb IBM Deskstar 60GXP ATA-100 (2MB Cache 7200rpm) (RAID 0+1)
Lian Li PC-68 Aluminum Midi Case
550W Enermax EG651P-VE Whisper Quiet Dual Fan PSU
1.44Mb Floppy Disk Drive Panasonic
Pioneer DVD ROM Slot x16
Plextor Plexwriter 12/10/32A CDRW
32Mb Matrox G550 DDR Dual Head
45cm ROUND ATA100 Cable
Diamond PCI Pro Hardware V90 Internal V/Fax/Modem
Abit AU10-R 6Ch Sound with DTS
Microsoft Intellieye Optical XE Mouse USB/PS/2
Logitech Cordless Desktop Keyboard (Freedom)
2 x IBM 18.2" TFT Screens

I've got some of the bits already, but waiting for the new MP's to become more readilly available here :(

Now AFTER that you have a few other PC's ticking along for the rest... should add to my RC5 scores nicely:
LostBok's RC5 score (http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/psummary.php3?id=365597)

But then I've always liked the duallies for their smoothness - of course you only get that under winNT/2000/XP, not win9x/ME...

Only reason for going for two separate PC's is so that a 2nd person can play LAN games against you... but I've got a few old boxes with Voodoo2-SLI's that handle that fine :)

Laters,
LostBok