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sharder8
10-07-2001, 12:45 AM
Interesting!

Survival Rates

By now everyone has been hearing the death toll rise and reports of the
destruction from the terrorist attacks on the US. These were deplorable
acts that we will never forget. But now is a time to look at the other
side of the numbers coming out of New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.
The sad but somewhat uplifting side that the mainstream media has not
reported yet the SURVIVAL rates and some positive news about the attacks.

*** The Buildings ***

* The World Trade Center -
The twin towers of the World Trade Center were places of employment for
some 50,000 people. With the missing list of just over 5,000 people, that
means 90% of the people targeted survived the attack. A 90% on a test
is an 'A'.

* The Pentagon -
Some 23,000 people were the target of a third plane aimed at the
Pentagon. The latest count shows that only 123 lost their lives. That is
an amazing 99.5% survival rate. in addition, the plane seems to have come
in too low, too early to affect a large portion of the building. On top of
that, the section that was hit was the first of five sections to undergo
renovations that would help protect the Pentagon from terrorist attacks.
It had recently completed straightening and blast proofing, saving untold
lives. This attack was sad, but a statistical failure.

*** The Planes ***

* American Airlines Flight 77
This Boeing 757 that was flown into the outside of the Pentagon could
have carried up to 289 people, yet only 64 were aboard. Luckily 78% of the
seats were empty.

* American Airlines Flight 11
This Boeing 767 could have had up to 351 people aboard, but only carried
92. Thankfully 74% of the seats were unfilled.

* United Airlines Flight 175
Another Boeing 767 that could have sat 351 people only had 65 people on
board. Fortunately it was 81% empty.

* United Airlines Flight 93
This Boeing 757 was one of the most uplifting stories yet. The smallest
flight to be hijacked with only 45 people aboard out of a possible 289 had
84% of its capacity unused. Yet these people stood up to the attackers and
thwarted a fourth attempted destruction of a national landmark, saving
untold numbers of lives in the process.

*** In Summary ***
Out of potentially 74,280 Americans directly targeted by these inept
cowards, 93% survived or avoided the attacks. That's a higher survival
rate than heart attacks, breast cancer, kidney transplants and liver
transplants -all common, survivable illnesses. The Hijacked planes were
mostly empty, the Pentagon was hit at it's strongest point, the
overwhelming majority of people in the World Trade Center buildings
escaped, and a handful of passengers gave the ultimate sacrifice to save
even more lives.

RustyGT
10-07-2001, 06:55 AM
Sharder
With all due respect, to the terrible human tragedy, of Sept11.

And now, its been brought to mention.

If the US Airline Industry "is in trouble" following 9/11 then what shape was it in, prior?

The figures you quote, for the planes 'on the day' are awful, regardless of the outcome, 'on the day'

That you can say, that we should be thankful that the flight nos were so low before this, is hardly any thing, for us to go on with.

My point here is, there are no small mercies.

Aviation the world over can't blame Sept11, for it's problems, 'now'.
Nor can it do so, as we pick up the pieces.

Looking for easy scapegoats, will not fix the underlying problems.

There is much work to be done. ChrsR.

OuTpaTienT
10-07-2001, 07:55 AM
A couple things:

First, I don't believe it was any accident or stroke of "luck" that the planes were so empty. The hi-jackers had been planning this event very thoroughly. They knew darn well that the less passengers aboard their planes only increased the odds of them succeeding with their goal of commondering the aircraft. And therefore they intentionally chose a day & time when they knew there would be many empty seats.

Second, your statement of "The twin towers of the World Trade Center were places of employment for some 50,000 people." is an incorrect one. Although you wouldn't know it with the way the lazy press just sling around that very statement. As I understand it, the WTC was indeed populated by some 50,000 employees...but, not 50,000 in the twin towers. The WTC complex was made up of 7 buildings, with the twin towers being only two of those. The figure I've heard in regards to how many of those 50,000 employees actually worked in the towers is in the neighborhood of 24,000 - 28,000 persons.

None of this invalidates your points, nor is that what I'm trying to do. I just wanted to share the info that I knew in a effort to keep things as factual as possible.

Ed_S
10-07-2001, 12:23 PM
Also, I find it amazing that there were so few killed in the surrounding buildings, or by the debris. Recently, I met a man who is on Mo's FEMA disaster team and was at ground zero within 24 hrs. The photos he has are amazing, and show devastation (close up) far above anything I've seen in the media. One former office building looks like a parking garage, only the structure remains & the photo shows that you can see clear through it.
Many more buildings are damaged beyond repair. He says his information is that at least twenty additional buildings will be leveled, one already has been.
But relatively few people were killed in them.