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Mj_Pimp
10-27-2003, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by MrBurns
This doesnt sound like you oced your CPU. You should have written something like

P4 2.4C @ 3.0GHz

I am surprised, that DDR400 mempory can run @ 250MHz. This is a 50MHz overclock. What are your timings @ 250MHz? something like 3-5-5-10?


that exacly, the kingston is overclocker memory and is worth every penny :) It was either that, or go get me some DDR500, or......even just splash out on a 3gig chip in the first place.
but seems to be working oki.

I would have to say though, bar benchmarks the performance increase is barly noticable.

Its not DDR500 Lol, its 400

fizur2002
10-27-2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Mj_Pimp
3957 in 3dmark 03 and my cpu is actually OC'ed from 2.4 :p

Well that made me feel better about my 03 scores, i thought that they were lacking.

mobo57
10-28-2003, 10:18 PM
I am suprised at those scores. Awful low.

My rig
3200XP
1 gig corsair ddr400
ATI 9800 Pro
Win 2k Pro
all d rest o' d stuff

3d mark 03 score at stock settings is 5573.
3d mark 01 < 17,900

Got to work on your set up???

Mj_Pimp
10-29-2003, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by mobo57
I am suprised at those scores. Awful low.

My rig
3200XP
1 gig corsair ddr400
ATI 9800 Pro
Win 2k Pro
all d rest o' d stuff

3d mark 03 score at stock settings is 5573.
3d mark 01 < 17,900

Got to work on your set up???

LOL? are u reffering 2 ur scores? or others?

Because, 5532 for that setup is very poor on a 9800 Pro

I know of someone with the EXACT same setup as that, scoing just over 8000 :p

I seem 2 have scored higher than you in 3DM01 with my 9600 Pro.... *scratches chin*
:) :p

ComPooTer
10-29-2003, 03:43 PM
scoring over 8000, bull

i hope you know that in 3dmark01 you get huge score bonuses from processor speed, 3dmark03 is pure video card and IMO is the REAL benchmark.

3dmark01 is getting pretty dated and it isnt fairly accurate hence 3dmark03 was released which is like i said before pure video card and no massive bonuses from higher processor speeds

fizur2002
10-29-2003, 04:15 PM
Yes compooter you are right, and that is where you will notice the difference if you overclock your vid card. By the way, what was your 03 score compooter?

ComPooTer
10-29-2003, 04:20 PM
Asus a7n8x Deluxe Rev2.0
Barton 2500+ 200x11@3200
512 DDR400 Crucial (5-2-2-2.5)
Ati radeon 9800 PRO (stock)
120 GB maxtor 7200 RPM 8mb cache

1024x768 32 bit all performance
3dmark03: 5658

fizur2002
10-29-2003, 06:04 PM
Hmmm, we have almost the same setup yet i scored almost 2k higher than you, but i am also oveclocking mine tho, so yeah, there is a definate boost in performance with my overclock.

MrBurns
10-29-2003, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by ComPooTer
scoring over 8000, bull

i hope you know that in 3dmark01 you get huge score bonuses from processor speed, 3dmark03 is pure video card and IMO is the REAL benchmark.

No real game is only video card. All games get a big bonus from CPU speed.

Bigjakkstaffa
10-29-2003, 06:52 PM
3dmark2003 doesnt, simply because it favours DX9 hardware so highly. Soem benchmarks were done a while back of a Radeon 9700 Pro on a 350Mhz P2 Vs a Gf4 ti and XP1700+ box, the R9700 Pro/P2 box scored marginally higher if memory serves. 3dmark2003 is a measure of gfx card only, though CPU does make a differenc it is a minor one, for a more rounded look at how both gfx card and CPU are performing 3dmark2001 is definitley the better of the two

--Jakk:t

Logan2002
10-30-2003, 01:52 AM
ok finally i have been here since last year I have not posted the scores on my desk top yet.

Ok here are the specs

Celeron 1ghz @ 1.10ghz

1 gig pc133 (115) samsung

radeon 7500 64 ddr

winxp pro

score: 2958

What do you think? It is only a 1ghz.

ComPooTer
10-30-2003, 02:25 AM
not too shabby!!

pretty good scores for your setup i would say

pandaz3
10-30-2003, 03:00 AM
Yes good scores for your hardware. 2001SE is a gaming benchmark for "High End" games and obviously your computer can do those things you like.

fizur2002
10-30-2003, 10:09 AM
My thoughts are is that if your computer does what you want it to do, then more power to you. So obviously he isnt worried about his comp being out of date, so kudos to you. (kinda off topic) But no too shabby considering your setup.

Logan2002
10-30-2003, 04:26 PM
Next I have to post my wifes computer.

It's specs:

Celeron 1.7ghz @ to 2.ghz

512MB ddr 2100

gf mx 440 64 ddr

also win xp pro.

I like my setup but i realize that I need to upgrade. At the moment my bud. will not allow me to upgrade (well I can up the ram tho....I really need to)

I do turn off alot of the eye candy I mean my ram can handle it but the vid card and the cpu can't. So I turn alot of things off. It still looks alot better than consoles though!

When I get a hdd for my laptop (bought it in 2000 and did heavy gaming on it, it's also a celeron a mobile coppermine)

ComPooTer
11-03-2003, 08:05 PM
3dmark01: 18617

Ati Radeon 9800 PRO 128mb (432/364.50)
AMD 2500+ 200x11.5@2.3
512 Crucial DDR400
Asus a7n8x Deluxe
120GB Maxtor 7200RPM 8mb Cache IDE HD

:)

MrBurns
11-03-2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Logan2002
ok finally i have been here since last year I have not posted the scores on my desk top yet.

Ok here are the specs

Celeron 1ghz @ 1.10ghz

1 gig pc133 (115) samsung

radeon 7500 64 ddr

winxp pro

score: 2958

What do you think? It is only a 1ghz.

You haver a Celeron w/ 1GB RAM. This makes about as much sense as a Radeon 9200 w/ 256MB V-RAM. You could get a much better score by getting a better video-card.

btw., what is the score of your wifes computer?

ComPooTer
11-03-2003, 08:51 PM
either he can overclock or get a good P3 and overclock those babies :)

blacknight31k
11-05-2003, 05:58 PM
2001se marks are:9914

xp-1800 (not the good one)
8rda+ vers.1.1
2x256 ddr-2100
maxtor 40gig hd
ati 9600 pro
win xp-pro

what do u guys think any good?

EasyFast
11-08-2003, 03:02 PM
5500 Score :mad:

Just built a new rig for my office PC. I wasn't expecting a huge score, since I cut a few corners, but I duplicated my home gaming system with scores in the 13K + range.

New System - 3dMark 5500

Asus A7N8X-VM
2 x 256MB Samsung DDR3200
XP2400+ Tbred
MSI FX5200 8X 125MB
WD 80gb SE 7200rpm 8mb cache
Zelman Copper Flower Cooler

Game System - 3dMark 13K+

Asus A7N8X (non-deluxe)
2 x 512MB Samsung DDR2100
XP2400+ Tbred
MSI Ti4200 4X 128MB (OC'd)
WD 80gb SE 7200rpm 8mb cache
Zelman Copper Flower Cooler

I'm running XP Home on both systems with the latest updates. On the new system I downloaded the latest Nvidia chipset drivers and detonator drivers from Nvidia, but I'm not sure which ones. The older game system those drivers are slightly older and since they work very well, why mess with success:D

The poor score on the new system could be the drivers, but I can't imagine they would be that bad.

I believe the problem is the board. This VM version of the A7N8X is missing a lot of features and the reviews are awful, mostly relating to stability. You can't adjust anything in the Bios! There are only two Dimm slots for Ram, and they are suppose to be dual channel. The board seems stable.

I know the FX Graphics board is not a race horse, but from the reviews I have seen, it almost keeps pace with the Ti4200. So it should do much better.

One final note. Other then the (cheap version, should have gone deluxe) board being a major mistake on my part, I bought an Antec case thinking that since it came with 300W PS from Antec, it would be a great bargain. Well all the Voltages are low 11.4v, 4.6v, 1.4v on the rail. Could this be the problem?:confused: I have already ordered a new PS. I love the case!

Suggestions? I don't plan to game on this new system, but I do plan to run some photo editing software and I am a power user. So I would be happy with a score around 9K.

Rugor
11-08-2003, 04:20 PM
No the FX5200 doesn't keep pace with the Ti4200. Depending on which model you have you could have difficulty keeping up with the MX440.

That's what's going to be holding you back the most.

EasyFast
11-09-2003, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Rugor
No the FX5200 doesn't keep pace with the Ti4200. Depending on which model you have you could have difficulty keeping up with the MX440.

That's what's going to be holding you back the most.

That's not what I wanted to hear:rolleyes:

If thats true, then it makes me angry at the "hammer" for their review. Ugh!

This is a 128mb card!....and the MX440 was a [*-deleted word-*]
card to begin with.

Well, live and learn. I guess I made a bad choice on both the mother board and the graphics card. I should have known better then to rush into building a system. Leave it to Asus and Nvidia to promote new products based on old products reputation. Never thought I would buy a new Nvidia card with 128mb of ram and have it be worse then a MX440 or get a junky A7N8X motherboard. Who would have thought:mad:

I guess I will sell off the [*-deleted word-*]
and go with ATI since this is the last straw for me with Nvidia GPU. And maybe go with my old favorite Abit motherboard.

(*** Polite language only please *** - WSUA (http://www.internet.com/corporate/legal.html) 3. a.)

cwin
11-09-2003, 03:53 AM
It isnt the motherboard i dont think... all the delux has is some extra features. In my case it is SATA, RAID, Voice reporter, better onboard sound... and some other things. The motherboard is just the same without some extras. It shouldnt hit the performance. :t

maxxx
11-09-2003, 08:22 PM
AMD 1700+
Gforce fx5600 256 mb
ECS k7s5a

3Dmark = 6970

morpheus kain
11-09-2003, 09:57 PM
Mobo is fine.... You're obvious lack of research before you buy products isn't.

Slapshot
11-22-2003, 01:35 AM
Hello all, I've been out of the benchmarking game for a while now so need some help.

System specs:
Asus A7N8X-X
AMD XP2500 Barton @ 166x12.5 or 2083Mhz
512 Corsair XMS PC3000 C2 @ 6 3 3 2 ( I think anyway)
Gainword FX5900 128MB non ultra at stock 400core 850mem
WD 40GB 7200HDD

3DMark2k1se 14600

Now the reason I need help is because this doesnt look right to me. I say that because I just sold a system with these specs and scores..........

System Specs:
Asus A7N8X Deluxe
AMD XP2500 Barton @ 200x10.5 or 2100Mhz (highest I could get stable)
512 Samsung Twin PC3200 C3 @ 7 3 3 3
Albatron GF4Ti4200 128MB at stock speed
WD 60GB 7200HDD

3DMark2k1 12860

Obviously I've gone to 166Mhz on FSB instead of 200Mhz so I know I'm taking a hit there. But I would think I would get a bit more than 1800 extra marks with this video card. And it does have the 256bit bus and 8 pixel pipes.....

Any thoughts or does this sound about right? I will be getting PC3200 mem in the next few days and hopefully this chip will be stable at higher speeds than the last one.

Also the dual channel doesnt make that much difference either. I actualy got better Sandra memory scores with the X board than I did with the Deluxe and that is why I sold it.....


Slapshot

MrBurns
11-22-2003, 02:39 AM
Your score is a little bit too low.

What driver/OS/DirectX versiopn do you use?

Make sure, that AntiAliasing and Ansitropic Filtering is turned off and all driver settings are turned to performance.

Slapshot
11-22-2003, 03:06 AM
All those were turned off.

OS Win2KPro
DX9

Ok the 14600 score I got with the stock Gainward driver I think 44.03. I just installed the 53.03 driver and now I'm getting 13997. I am seeing the drop in nature but everything else goes up. With the 44.03 driver Nature test starts at 100fps and goes as high as 180fps. With the 55.03 nature starts at 80fps and peeks at about 130.
I also just ran 3DMark2K3 and got 5130. I realy dont use 2K3 yet so I dont know if that is an O.K. score or not. Also there is a possibility that this memory is getting flakey. I got it about a year and a half ago and may have started to cook it from OC'ing it all the time.

Slapshot

MrBurns
11-22-2003, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by Slapshot
I also just ran 3DMark2K3 and got 5130. I realy dont use 2K3 yet so I dont know if that is an O.K. score or not.

The 3DMark03 score is ok, and I think, the 01 score is also ok. 3DMark01 is a DirectX 8 benchmark and the Ti cards are very good in DirectX 8 games, so you cannot expect such a big difference when you dont use at least a FX5800. My scores w/ a Ti4600@stock are 13753 w/ my Athlon XP2700 @ stock (166x13=2166MHz) and 14371 w/ my CPU@178x13.5 (2403MHz). Edit: I thought, that you had a 5600, not a 5900. For a 5900 your 3dMark01 scores are also too low.

Also 3DMark01 doesnt seem to like the 5x.xx detonators.

benknobi
11-22-2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Slapshot
Obviously I've gone to 166Mhz on FSB instead of 200Mhz so I know I'm taking a hit there. But I would think I would get a bit more than 1800 extra marks with this video card. And it does have the 256bit bus and 8 pixel pipes.....

Any thoughts or does this sound about right? Slapshot

Yeah I have a few thoughts now and then and one of them is that the 5900 series is a 4 Pixel pipe design, not 8. Nvidia spread a bunch of FUD about the FX series early in it's developement about it being an 8 pipe design but it turnsd out they were misinforming their customers as usual.

4 Pipes... not 8

Under certain conditions they can do 2 Pixel ops per clock per pipe, which Nvidia then twists into the fud that the FX has 8 pipes.

From a thread at beyond3d about an Anand article on the FX5900...

"OK, he starts off by mentioning how nVidia called 4 pixel pipelines 8,... A pretty blatant spin to start off with, and then a technical example leading up to a pretty dedicated obfuscation of the term "pixel" by such terms as "Z pixel", "texture/clk", "Stencil pixel", and "pixel shader ops", where "Color + Z pixel" is established as the special case that doesn't weigh as heavily (it's only listed once, after all, whereas the rest of the items present a count of "8" for them that are more numerous ). Nevermind that they are the special cases of splitting Color+Z up into its parts, and that the (4 Pipeline)Color+Z limitation is the most frequent one, even with pixel shading. "

Rugor
11-22-2003, 03:30 PM
I tried to stay out of this bit, but Benknobi is right.

The high end GfFX cards can operate as either a 8x0 or 4x2 card. Unfortunately, the so-called "8-pipe" configuration only works when the data (you can't really call it a pixel) will not be output on this pass. It can handle 8 parallel datastreams internally, in some cases, but can only ever output four pixels per pass. So no matter what Nvidia's marketing dept says it's a four pipe card when it counts.

Beast_USA
11-22-2003, 09:27 PM
My fx is fine the xt I bought wouldn't start up my apple display.

3D2003 7492
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1541592

Aquamark3 55979
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=809746628

So no matter how nvidia calls it ....it works for me:)

Rugor
11-22-2003, 10:12 PM
Glad it does:

From everything I've seen the second generation FX cards (5700 and 5900) are pretty decent pieces of hardware. They may not be as good at DX9 as ATI but they have other strengths.

My biggest problem is that Nvidia's been marketing them as things they aren't not so much for what they are. They're really fast cards in most games, and when the drivers don't disable it they have great AF.

Slapshot
11-23-2003, 12:34 AM
I have had a Ti4200 of some sort or another for the last 2 years(gone through a few of them). I recently sold my computer and started to build another and thought I'd try a Radeon 9600Pro. Talk about a performance hit! What a POS that thing is. So I sent it back and got an FX5600Ultra with flip chip running at 400/800. I mean with those kind of clocks you'd think it would beat the Ti4200. NOPE! So looking at newegg I saw the Gainward non-pro FX5900 for $229.00 and I figured what the hell. It is faster but not as fast as I thought it would be. I'm O.K. with it though. I still hate the ATI drivers and they're too **** expensive so it will do for now...... Thanks for the input though.

Slapshot

jonwes
11-23-2003, 01:15 AM
Please help! I just ran 3DMark2001SE Build 330 and it came up with a score of 11,275, but I think my system should be doing much better:

Athlon XP 2000 (not oc'd)
Epox 8K3A+ MB
1 GB PC2700 RAM
Samsung 160GB 2MB HDD
BFG Asylum FX5900 (non-ultra, oc'd to 444/921)
Windows XP Professional

I made sure AA&AF were turned off, Vsync on auto select, Refresh Rate at 100hz, High Performance setting in Forceware, and nothing else running in the background.

Should this be higher? When the card wasn't oc'd, I was getting just a hair over 11,000.

MrBurns
11-23-2003, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by Slapshot
I have had a Ti4200 of some sort or another for the last 2 years(gone through a few of them). I recently sold my computer and started to build another and thought I'd try a Radeon 9600Pro. Talk about a performance hit! What a POS that thing is. So I sent it back and got an FX5600Ultra with flip chip running at 400/800. I mean with those kind of clocks you'd think it would beat the Ti4200. NOPE! So looking at newegg I saw the Gainward non-pro FX5900 for $229.00 and I figured what the hell. It is faster but not as fast as I thought it would be. I'm O.K. with it though. I still hate the ATI drivers and they're too **** expensive so it will do for now...... Thanks for the input though.

The Radeon9600 and GeForce FX 5600 cards have a poorer performance in DirectX 8 than the GeForce 4 Ti series, but they have a major advantage: they are fully DX9 compliant. So if you decide between a FX 5600/Radoen 9600 and a Ti you have to make a decition between performance and DX9.

Rugor
11-23-2003, 02:11 AM
I have a Radeon 9500 Pro, which generally gets me a hair over 10K 3Dmarks in 2K1SE. That may not be a huge score but with a Pally 1800+ and only 256MB of RAM I'm pretty satisfied.

What I like about it is not just the DX9 compatibility, but also that it has a much lower performance hit from AA and AF than the Ti series. The DX9 cards aren't so much about higher frame rates as improved image quality.

That's one reason I went ATI, they have better AA than Nvidia.

As to drivers, I've only ever had one game killer ever, and that was with Nvidia drivers. I had a Gf2MX at one point and going to the 40.xx detonators killed Freedom Force.

MrBurns
11-23-2003, 02:18 AM
Originally posted by Rugor
What I like about it is not just the DX9 compatibility, but also that it has a much lower performance hit from AA and AF than the Ti series. The DX9 cards aren't so much about higher frame rates as improved image quality.

I thought, that the Radeon 9500 series is not DX9 compatible (or is that only the non-pro?). The Ti 4600 however outperformes the Radeon 9500. I get 14371 3DMarks in 2k1 w/ my Ti 4600@stock speed and my CPU@13.5x178=2403MHz. CPU is Athlon XP 2700+ w/ a deafult clock speed of 2166MHz. I can get a higher FSb, but I didnt benchmark the high FSBs yet.

Rugor
11-23-2003, 03:11 AM
All Radeons from the 9500 and up are fully DX9 compatible. My 9500 Pro differs from the 9700 Non-Pro only in the width of the memory bus, it has the same VPU running at the same clock. The 9500 NON-pro disabled half the pipes and Hyper-Z.

I'm not surprised you're getting much higher 2K1 scores than I am. Even at default clocks the Ti4600 runs faster (300/325) than the 9500 Pro (275/270). So since the benchmark doesn't tax any DX9 functionality it really comes down to overall system performance, and my AXP at 1533MHz with a 133FSB is not going to match your system.

You have about a 10% edge in GPU speed, about 20% in GPU bandwidth, 50% in CPU speed and about 33% in System bandwidth, all of which give you roughly 40% more 3DMarks, so it's not quite scaling with CPU speed.

The advantage the 9500 Pro has is better AA, and generally less of a performance hit when that and AF are engaged. On a given system, it will normally about match a Ti4200 without AA/AF enabled, and beat a Ti4600 with AA/AF enabled. Then you add in the DX9 capability and you get a better idea of what it's aimed at.

MrBurns
11-23-2003, 03:23 AM
I am sorry to disappoint you, but the Radoen 9500 series has no DirectX 9 support, only the 9600 series has:

http://www.tech-report.com/onearticle.x/4122

Facing the new competition from Nvidia, especially in the medium-range market, ATI Technologies announced that in October it will introduce its Radeon 9500 series, a simpler version of its top-end Radeon 9700 PRO. Though based on the R300 core and offering the AGP 8x specification, the Radeon 9500 series (Radeon 9500 and Radeon 9500 PRO) is designed with four pipelines and DirectX 8.1 support.

Edit: I found out, that the 9500 sereis also supports DX9, that it is not supporting DX9 is only a rumor which comes from a press release at a time before the 9500 series was available and ATI didnt want to implement DX9 on the 9500 series at this time, but they changed their mind:

http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/previews/4513/1/

http://www.infosatellite.com/news/2002/11/a281102radeon9500.html

Slapshot
11-23-2003, 03:32 AM
For the games I play the Ti4200 was better especially in Americas Army and Falcon4. The latter is an extremely old flight sim from 1998. It seems these newer cards are filled with technology that will be great in the future but however are less powerfull with older games. Unless you get the high end cards. The thing that frustrates me is being used to the power of the GF4Ti series line of cards and the price points of them. Whether you got a 4200, 4400 or 4600, all had the same technology. The only difference was the clock, and all could run any game just fine. Not so with these new cards. I dont feel like I'm getting my money's worth anymore. Going from a Ti4200 to an FX5600 isn't the same as going from a GF3Ti to a GF4Ti.... No what I mean? However, this FX5900 for $229.00 is getting closer......

BTW the 9500 is Fully DX9 while the 9200 and lower are not.

Slapshot

Beast_USA
11-23-2003, 04:50 AM
I wasn't saying nvidia is better ...just happy with my FX.

I stopped doing 2001 when I got the fx cards (5900 ultra first card)

My best 2001 score was 17851 with my 9700 pro & amd 2700+
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5718428

best score 16152 with the leadtek ti 4600 & old P4
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6193158

I have always used both... ati has always seemed fast until the 5800 & 5900 nvidia cards. But nvidia has always had better drivers and worked ........without problems in all my games.

My most recent vid cards
Leadtek winfast 4600 ti ultra 128 (my favorite for gaming no problems always worked with all my new & old games)
Ati 9700 pro 128 megs (wolfenstein & bf1942 need to dis-able a few things to make it look right)
ATI 9800 pro 256 megs (didn't start the apple display)
pny 5900 ultra 256 megs
ATI 9800 XT 256 megs (wouldn't start the apple display)
Asylum 5950 ultra 256 megs (need to under clock for old games)

Pre to those cards you know G 2,3 & rage, rage pro, all in wonder, voodoo.

I even called ATI in Canada...about the apple display on the adc-dvi .........and their brilliant answer was use another monitor! What the he11 kind of answer was that! The XT will be last ati I will ever buy.

Beast_USA
11-23-2003, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by Slapshot
For the games I play the Ti4200 was better especially in Americas Army and Falcon4. The latter is an extremely old flight sim from 1998. It seems these newer cards are filled with technology that will be great in the future but however are less powerfull with older games. Unless you get the high end cards. The thing that frustrates me is being used to the power of the GF4Ti series line of cards and the price points of them. Whether you got a 4200, 4400 or 4600, all had the same technology. The only difference was the clock, and all could run any game just fine. Not so with these new cards. I dont feel like I'm getting my money's worth anymore. Going from a Ti4200 to an FX5600 isn't the same as going from a GF3Ti to a GF4Ti.... No what I mean? However, this FX5900 for $229.00 is getting closer......

BTW the 9500 is Fully DX9 while the 9200 and lower are not.

Slapshot


You hit that nail on the head...the new cards are more (money) for less:)

Rugor
11-23-2003, 02:14 PM
That's one place where ATI users have had an advantage over Nvidia. The 9500/Pro and the 9600/Pro are both faster than the DX8.1 parts they replaced, so for a DX8.1 user staying with ATI the new cards did mean a solid overall upgrade.

Since ATI's DX9 parts came out first, that set the pattern for what people were going to expect.

Nvidia's DX9 cards, especially the even numbered models, were more about expanding the feature set than improving performance. The Ti4200 had been too good a card for them, cannibalizing sales from the higher end cards, and they wanted to avoid this. So only the top models had higher overall or raw performance, while the 5600 series settled for rough parity with the Ti4200 it was meant to replace. The goal was to boost the features more than speed, and the newer cards are more capable than their predecessors when using AA and AF.

If you aren't playing with AA and AF all the time then only the top models from either Nvidia or ATI is going to beat out a Ti4600.

Beast_USA
11-24-2003, 11:02 AM
I have the top end 5900 ultra & 5950 ultra....they go fast
But the ti 4600 I had was still the best card...for put it in.....oc the system where ever you wanted....and no problems playing:)

Even my 9700 pro got pissy when you oc'ed your system to far you would need to oc the 9700 to keep the games stable.

mobo57
12-04-2003, 04:19 PM
Score: 18,555

System:
3200 XP oc'd at 2315 w/ vantec aeroflow
1 gig corsair 3200
ATI 9800 pro 128 meg with Iceberg 4 cooling system oc'd at 410 & 360.
BTB, still love my TI 4200, have it in one of my other systems. The TI series is one of the best.

x51out
12-04-2003, 05:04 PM
Why even bother anymore? Wanna read a story? Right Here. (http://www.rense.com/general45/rune.htm)

fishybawb
12-04-2003, 05:13 PM
Just got round to a bit of tweaking, so I thought I'd post my latest results :)

Score: 13644

Barton 2500+ @ 2.3Ghz (11x209)
Abit NF7-S 2.0
2x256MB Crucial PC3200
Radeon 9600 Pro @440/330

Beast_USA
12-05-2003, 01:47 AM
Did a 2001 on the new system in XP

20491
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7284462

I think I could get higher just gave it one run:)

WayneD
12-05-2003, 09:37 PM
Best I could get is 13,576 with my Geforce4 Ti 4200 8agp 128 m/b o/c at 316/632. This appears an excellent score with a Gforce4 Ti 4200 card...

User
12-08-2003, 08:11 AM
Well i downloaded the wrong 3DMark (2000 instead of 2001) anyway heres everything

Athlon xp 2400+ 2.1ghz
Asus a7n266-vm
On board graphics (for now)

Score: 3102

Not bad for basicly nothing done

WayneD
12-08-2003, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Beast_USA
I wasn't saying nvidia is better ...just happy with my FX.

I stopped doing 2001 when I got the fx cards (5900 ultra first card)

My best 2001 score was 17851 with my 9700 pro & amd 2700+
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5718428

best score 16152 with the leadtek ti 4600 & old P4
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6193158

I have always used both... ati has always seemed fast until the 5800 & 5900 nvidia cards. But nvidia has always had better drivers and worked ........without problems in all my games.

My most recent vid cards
Leadtek winfast 4600 ti ultra 128 (my favorite for gaming no problems always worked with all my new & old games)
Ati 9700 pro 128 megs (wolfenstein & bf1942 need to dis-able a few things to make it look right)
ATI 9800 pro 256 megs (didn't start the apple display)
pny 5900 ultra 256 megs
ATI 9800 XT 256 megs (wouldn't start the apple display)
Asylum 5950 ultra 256 megs (need to under clock for old games)

Pre to those cards you know G 2,3 & rage, rage pro, all in wonder, voodoo.

I even called ATI in Canada...about the apple display on the adc-dvi .........and their brilliant answer was use another monitor! What the he11 kind of answer was that! The XT will be last ati I will ever buy.

The ATI cards and drivers may produce better scores from time to time however, not worth their short lived claim to fame. The drivers are like a virus in your system as once in are impossible to remove. I left the ATI product line with the into of the 8500 series which did not like my mobo (A7M266) and was only able to rid the system of the drivers with a complete reinstall of the o/s.

The FX line of Nvidia cards are clearly ahead of their time. For a short while I replaced my Ti4400 with an FX5900 however, returned it as the scores in all benchmarking tests were worse than the Ti series with o/c

MrBurns
12-08-2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by WayneD
The ATI cards and drivers may produce better scores from time to time however, not worth their short lived claim to fame. The drivers are like a virus in your system as once in are impossible to remove. I left the ATI product line with the into of the 8500 series which did not like my mobo (A7M266) and was only able to rid the system of the drivers with a complete reinstall of the o/s.

There are programs to uninstall even ATI drivers, but I use NVIDIA, because there drivers make less problems (I am not talking about uninstalling, but of problems w/ an installed driver w/ games or even Windows).

WayneD
12-08-2003, 09:06 AM
Yes, you are correct ATI does provide uninstallers however, non that work. I recently had a video capture card which I decided to remove, the card was easy to remove but the drivers...well that's another story. After several attempts at searching the o/s, registry and removing all related files NO LUCK they remained. On running the ATI provided uninstaller several times NO LUCK they remained....as I said a virus is easier to strip from your system than the ATI drivers. I finally rid the system of the drivers with a clean install of windows. I had similar experiences with the video drivers...

MrBurns
12-08-2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by WayneD
Yes, you are correct ATI does provide uninstallers however, non that work. I recently had a video capture card which I decided to remove, the card was easy to remove but the drivers...well that's another story. After several attempts at searching the o/s, registry and removing all related files NO LUCK they remained. On running the ATI provided uninstaller several times NO LUCK they remained....as I said a virus is easier to strip from your system than the ATI drivers. I finally rid the system of the drivers with a clean install of windows. I had similar experiences with the video drivers...

You can try a third party uninstaller. I know, that there are some available for ATI.

NVIDIAs driver uninstaller also doesnt completely remove the driver, I allways use Detonator Destroyer when I want to get rid of it (i.e. when I have problems and want to reinstall it, or when I want to use an older version).

Logan[TeamX]
12-08-2003, 09:30 AM
Ran 3DMark2001 SE for the new to me vid card I installed...

AMD XP 2500+ @ 2250 MHz (12.5x180)
Asus A7V8X-X, bios 1006
ATI Raedon 8500 128MB, stock clocks
1x512MB DDR333 Samsung RAM @ 360 MHz
Windows 2000 Pro SP4

Score: 9,774

[EDIT]

O/Ced the Raedon to 275/275, got 10,540 marks. O/Ced to 290/290 and it locked and invoked VPU recover :(

I'll try just the GPU higher tonight, or perhaps just the RAM.

fizur2002
12-08-2003, 07:05 PM
Best way to uninstall ATI drivers is to use their uninstall program and then hit it with regseeker, that will polish out all the drivers and registry entries that you do not want.

Beast_USA
12-09-2003, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by Beast_USA
Did a 2001 on the new system in XP

20491
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7284462

I think I could get higher just gave it one run:)

Yep
20970
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7309082

Still not high enough

scottluebke2003
12-12-2003, 01:15 AM
Beast, that is an incredible score. Wow.

Beast_USA
12-12-2003, 01:04 PM
Thanks.......was clocking last night got it up 1040/260fsb 4,160mhz.....at 12.1C......freezing in my room :)

mrgas
12-12-2003, 01:58 PM
13513 with nividia 52.16 today

on 7-12-2003
15424 with omegas 43.45

gefti 4600
intel875
3.0intel
2x512 twinx ddr400 pc3200

MrBurns
12-12-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by mrgas
13513 with nividia 52.16 today

on 7-12-2003
15424 with omegas 43.45

w/ GeForce 4 TI cards the 43.35 and 44.03 drivers are the fastest, if they are Omega or not.

mrgas
12-12-2003, 02:11 PM
sure ,but does it really make a difference?
big numbers are great .And i like them.

but I want good results while going around Daytona or Tally at 200 mph.

my system works fine with both drivers .

graphics are great to my untrained eyes.:t

MrBurns
12-12-2003, 03:00 PM
The 43.xx and 44.xx are alos the fastest on TI GPUs for games.

mrgas
12-12-2003, 03:07 PM
thank you mr.burns

i have been thinking of going back to one of them.so might as well do it now.:cool: :t :D

Beast_USA
12-13-2003, 12:27 AM
MrBurns....He hit 2500 on that 3200+ 64bit and I hit 4100 and he's kicking my but:(

my score 2998
his score 3008

Next up-grade fx51

MrBurns
12-13-2003, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Beast_USA
MrBurns....He hit 2500 on that 3200+ 64bit and I hit 4100 and he's kicking my but:(

my score 2998
his score 3008

Next up-grade fx51

What kind os scores are this? They are a little low for 3DMark01 scores, did you post in the wrong section?

Beast_USA
12-13-2003, 02:46 AM
Some where in here I told you about pit scores at pcpitstop

And said the guy with the 64 bit amd would kill me if he hit 2500mhz he did and is.......maybe it was in 3dmark 2003

Slapshot
12-17-2003, 12:48 PM
AMD XP2500+ @ 200x10
Asus A7N8X-X
512MB Corsair XMS PC3200 C2 7 3 3 2
WD 40GB HDD 7200RPM 8MB Cache
Audigy2 ZS
Radeon 9800 Non-pro @ 378core 311memory

3DMark2K1se 16530

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7333014


Slapshot

bob05
12-22-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by MrBurns
What kind os scores are this? They are a little low for 3DMark01 scores, did you post in the wrong section?

those gotta be 3dmark03's :p

MrBurns
12-23-2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by bob05
those gotta be 3dmark03's :p

No, these are scores from PC-pitstop (read Beasts post). Beast had over 7800 in 3DMark03, you can read it in the 3DMark03 thread.

mobo57
12-27-2003, 04:15 PM
Installed latest bios for my mobo and Cat 3.10 drivers on the vid card. Did a little more tweaking:
19,026

K7N2 Delta ILSR
3200 @ 12x200, stock volts
1 gig Corasir 3200C2PT @ 2.7
ATI 9800 pro at 1.6 volts, oc'd at 411/365
Win 2k sp4

THink I'm gonna stop here for a while!

bblqj78
12-27-2003, 06:15 PM
I'm doimg not bad here...best so far..but certainly going to go higher...

18493


AMD XP2800 Barton @ 2.37Ghz (215*11)
1Gb Corsair XMS TwinX DDR400 (5,3,3,2)
ABIT NF7-S Version2
ATI Radeon 9700pro (Core 384, Mem 330)
SoundBlaster Audigy2
120GB Western Digital Hard Drive (7200, 8Mb)

AsianBatman
12-28-2003, 09:29 PM
System:
2.4c
865PERL
r9800np (420/315) not max, everyday use settings
Audigy MP3+
2x256 Corsair ddr400LL
3DMARK01: 16102

PlatoonSgtElias
01-01-2004, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by AsianBatman
System:
2.4c
865PERL
r9800np (420/315) not max, everyday use settings
Audigy MP3+
2x256 Corsair ddr400LL
3DMARK01: 16102

Well thats an awful score:rolleyes: Pentium4 is the trouble maker ;)

My puny Score: 17,511
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7389617

System is:

AMD XP2500+(1833MHz)@3200+ Barton (2350MHz) 235x10 1.75v Temp 42idle, 47@full cooling with FlaconRock II 26db
Hercules 3D Prophet Radeon 9700@9700PRO w/bios flash 128Mb 2,8ns default 275\275MHz running at 24\7 340\340
256Mb 400MHz Pc3200 CL2,5 PQI 5-3-3-2,5
40Gb Seagate Barracuda ATA IV 7200rpm/2mb
Epox 8RDA3I Nforce2 Ultra 400
15" AOC 5Glr+ (terav ja selge pilt)
Nec CDRW 12x10x32

PlatoonSgtElias
01-01-2004, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Slapshot
AMD XP2500+ @ 200x10
Asus A7N8X-X
512MB Corsair XMS PC3200 C2 7 3 3 2
WD 40GB HDD 7200RPM 8MB Cache
Audigy2 ZS
Radeon 9800 Non-pro @ 378core 311memory

3DMark2K1se 16530

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7333014


Slapshot

Maan thats pathetic.... your comp will easily too 19000. 16k is WAAAY to low.

AsianBatman
01-02-2004, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by PlatoonSgtElias
Well thats an awful score:rolleyes: Pentium4 is the trouble maker ;)

My puny Score: 17,511
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7389617

System is:

AMD XP2500+(1833MHz)@3200+ Barton (2350MHz) 235x10 1.75v Temp 42idle, 47@full cooling with FlaconRock II 26db
Hercules 3D Prophet Radeon 9700@9700PRO w/bios flash 128Mb 2,8ns default 275\275MHz running at 24\7 340\340
256Mb 400MHz Pc3200 CL2,5 PQI 5-3-3-2,5
40Gb Seagate Barracuda ATA IV 7200rpm/2mb
Epox 8RDA3I Nforce2 Ultra 400
15" AOC 5Glr+ (terav ja selge pilt)
Nec CDRW 12x10x32

Right, compared to all the stock 2.4 p4 it is average, see what happens if i can overclock my p4, so stop trying to start a flame buddy. :rolleyes:

specialzied2002
01-02-2004, 09:48 AM
latest 3d mark 2001 score is 12521

geforce 4 ti 4800se @ 320/650
DFi lan party nf2 ultra mobo
512 micron 2100 (cas 2)
80gb seagate
barton 2800@2.41 (3400)

morpheus kain
01-02-2004, 06:40 PM
Maybe you should learn when people aren't being serious and are just playing. He's and AMD fanboy so he's just pciking on you about your P4.

PlatoonSgtElias
01-02-2004, 06:55 PM
Well then OC that... A Barton 2500@3200 and a 9800SE@9800PRO did a score of 19k

AsianBatman
01-02-2004, 10:47 PM
I wish i could but since i am running a perl i can't.

PlatoonSgtElias
01-28-2004, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by bblqj78
I'm doimg not bad here...best so far..but certainly going to go higher...

18493


AMD XP2800 Barton @ 2.37Ghz (215*11)
1Gb Corsair XMS TwinX DDR400 (5,3,3,2)
ABIT NF7-S Version2
ATI Radeon 9700pro (Core 384, Mem 330)
SoundBlaster Audigy2
120GB Western Digital Hard Drive (7200, 8Mb)

Why you little motha faka :D

A competetor.

**** you :p

I score 18,700 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7500010

Amd 2500 Barton @ 2,36GHz (236x10)
512Mb PQI pc3200 (5-3-3-2,5)
Epox8RDA3i
ATI Radeon 9700@ (387\354) Zalman 80HP
120Gb Seagate 8mb 7200 ATA

PlatoonSgtElias
01-29-2004, 06:37 PM
erm 18785p http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7501794


:p :t

simon13
01-30-2004, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by PlatoonSgtElias
Why you little motha faka :D

A competetor.

**** you :p

I score 18,700 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7500010

Amd 2500 Barton @ 2,36GHz (236x10)
512Mb PQI pc3200 (5-3-3-2,5)
Epox8RDA3i
ATI Radeon 9700@ (387\354) Zalman 80HP
120Gb Seagate 8mb 7200 ATA



did you try 200*12 ?
I know about highest FSB, but, I've read several things about applications performance with 166/200 FSB.

bblqj78
01-30-2004, 06:54 AM
Why you little motha faka

A competetor.

**** you

I score 18,700 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7500010

Amd 2500 Barton @ 2,36GHz (236x10)
512Mb PQI pc3200 (5-3-3-2,5)
Epox8RDA3i
ATI Radeon 9700@ (387\354) Zalman 80HP
120Gb Seagate 8mb 7200 ATA


Nice score Mr Elias.....OK u won....but it wasnt a competetion. I have had just over 19K with that system ....allbiet by the end of the test I was getting artifcats all over the place:D
I only post whats stable and can run permanatly at.

I guess I will beat that score next week....just ordered myself and ASUS V9980 ..(5950 Ultra). :x

jet.
01-30-2004, 12:04 PM
Bred B 1700+ @200x12.5 -2.5Ghz
1.85 vCore, 2.7 vDimm, 1.7v Chip, AGP 1.5v
NF7-S rev.2.0 BIOS 1.4b nVidia driver 2.03
TwinMos 3x256 6/3/3/2 @ DDR400 PC3200
Rad9700 NP 350/290 Cat3.10B DX 9.0b
Xaser III Aeroflow 45C +/-5
Antec 380W WD80JB/WD120JB
Z-640 19" DPro MX500 Ratpadz GS XPPro SP1
3D'01 (.330) -16,720 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6629196 )

Awaits DIII and HL2 with growing anticipation. (x crosses fingers that i'll be able to play max settings x) :x

PlatoonSgtElias
01-30-2004, 12:36 PM
This done by me:

WindowsXP & ServicePack1 from WindowsXP Update download page! |

3DMark2001Pro:Testid tehtud tänu Tanelile! |
Test konfiguratsioon: |
AmdXp1700 (1460MHz) |
GeForce3Ti200 64MbDDR Core:175Mhz & Memory:400Mhz |
196MbSDRAM CL3 (128,64Mb pc133) |
PcChips830LR (no AGP Fastwrites) |
40Gb 7200rpm SEAGATE Barracuda ATA IV |
Parim skoor: http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4564404 |

Tulemused ja tweaked: |
All tests are @ DEFAULT:1024x768 32bit |

1.5204 with Detonator 28.32 AGP ApartureSize is 4Mb CAS4 memory settings |
2.5938 with Detonator 28.32 AGP ApartureSize is 64Mb CAS4 memory settings |
3.5949 with Detonator 28.32 AGP ApartureSize is 32Mb CAS4 memory settings |
4.6009 with Detonator 28.32 AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS4 memory settings |
5.6047 with Detonator 28.32 AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS3 memory settings |
6.6062 with Detonator 40.41 AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS3 memory settings |
7.6701 with Detonator 40.41 AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS3 memory settings OC|
400@500 175@220 |
8.6719 with Detonator 40.41 AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS3 memory settings OC|
RivaTunerFastWrites |
9.6959 with Detonator 40.41 AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS3 memory settings OC|
-/-LodBias+3 |
10.6904 with Detonator 40.41 AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS3 memory settingsOC|
400@520 175@230WOW! |
11.6997 with Detonator 40.41 AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS3 memory settingsOC|
400@540 175@235WOW! |
12.7085 with Detonator 40.41 AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS3 memory settingsOC|
400@539 175@238WOW! |
yesssssssssssssss |



3DMark2001SE:Testid tehtud tänu Tanelile! |
Test konfiguratsioon: |
AmdXp1700 (1460MHz) |
Club3D Ati Radeon 9100 128mb Core:250Mhz & Memory:250Mhz |
512Mb DDR Kingston Pc2100 CL2 |
PcChips830LR (no AGP Fastwrites) |
40Gb 7200rpm SEAGATE Barracuda ATA IV |
Parim skoor: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6612485 |

Tulemused ja tweaked: |
All tests are @ DEFAULT:1024x768 32bit |

1.7620 with Catalyst 3.4 performance settings AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS2 |
memory settings |
2.8002 with Catalyst 3.4 performance settings AGP ApartureSize is 256mb CAS2 |
memory settings Dx8.1 and SIS AGP 1.16 |
YEAH,broke 8k :)
! |
Test konfiguratsioon: |
AmdXp1700 (1572MHz) |
Point Of View Nvidia GeForce4 Ti4200 64mb Core:284 & Memory:583 |
512Mb DDR Kingston Pc2100 CL2 |
PcChips830LR (no AGP Fastwrites) |
40Gb 7200rpm SEAGATE Barracuda ATA IV |

Tulemused ja tweaked: |
All tests are @ DEFAULT:1024x768 32bit |

1.9688 with Detonator 45.23 quality settings AGP ApartureSize is 64Mb CAS2 |
memory settings |

3DMark2001SE:Testid tehtud tänu Tanelile! |
Test konfiguratsioon: |
AmdXp2500+ (1833MHz) @ 3200+ (2350MHz) Barton L2 512 [235x10] |
Hercules 3D Prophet Ati Radeon 9700@9700PRO 128mb Core:389Mhz & Memory:359Mhz|
512Mb DDR PQI Pc3200 CL2,5 FSB 235 CAS settings 5-3-3-2,5 |
Epox 8RDA3i nForce2 Ultra 400 |
120Gb 7200/8mb Seagate Barracuda ATA V |

Tulemused ja tweaked: |
All tests are @ DEFAULT:1024x768 32bit |

1.16447 with Catalyst 3.7 performance settings AGP ApartureSize is 256mb |
CAS 7-3-3-2,5 @ 325\310 |
2.18785 with Catalyst 3.7 performance settings AGP ApartureSize is 512mb |
CAS 5-3-3-2,5 @ 389\360

MrBurns
01-30-2004, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by PlatoonSgtElias
1.5204 with Detonator 28.32 AGP ApartureSize is 4Mb CAS4 memory settings |
2.5938 with Detonator 28.32 AGP ApartureSize is 64Mb CAS4 memory settings |
3.5949 with Detonator 28.32 AGP ApartureSize is 32Mb CAS4 memory settings |
4.6009 with Detonator 28.32 AGP ApartureSize is 128Mb CAS4 memory settings |

I didnt know, that CAS 4 is even supported by some mainbaords. I thought, they only support CAS 2, 2.5 and 3. Are you sure, you dont mean tRCD or tRP?



Originally posted by PlatoonSgtElias

3DMark2001SE:Testid tehtud tänu Tanelile! |
Test konfiguratsioon: |
AmdXp2500+ (1833MHz) @ 3200+ (2350MHz) Barton L2 512 [235x10] |
Hercules 3D Prophet Ati Radeon 9700@9700PRO 128mb Core:389Mhz & Memory:359Mhz|
512Mb DDR PQI Pc3200 CL2,5 FSB 235 CAS settings 5-3-3-2,5 |
Epox 8RDA3i nForce2 Ultra 400 |
120Gb 7200/8mb Seagate Barracuda ATA V |

Tulemused ja tweaked: |
All tests are @ DEFAULT:1024x768 32bit |

1.16447 with Catalyst 3.7 performance settings AGP ApartureSize is 256mb |
CAS 7-3-3-2,5 @ 325\310 |
2.18785 with Catalyst 3.7 performance settings AGP ApartureSize is 512mb |
CAS 5-3-3-2,5 @ 389\360

I wouldnt set the AGP-ApertureSize as high as the RAM you have, because this can cause a problem when you play a gamke, that needs a lot of memory and has big textures: when you have 512MB ApertureSize, the OS must make up to 512MB available for your GPU, only if it needs so much. Aperture memory that isnt used by the AGP is available for the OS and apps, but if you will ever play a game, which uses 640MB for frame buffer (128MB VRAM + 512MB aperture), there will be no RAM available for Windows anymore and your PC will crash. It will probably even crash, when a little less than 512MB of the aperture-RAM will be used.



Btw, you shouldnt use any other languages than English in your posts.

ShadeZeRO
02-27-2004, 10:44 AM
i got about 7000 (i think like 6980)
1024x768 Pure HW, T&L, 32bit

AMD athlon64 3400+
512mb Geil PC 3500 Golden Dragon
ATI Radeon 9600SE

Is that bad or good?

AND VOLTAGE IS AT 1.5, sould is set it at 1.7?

Mj_Pimp
02-27-2004, 10:47 AM
Thats poor

bblqj78
02-27-2004, 10:57 AM
AMD athlon64 3400+
512mb Geil PC 3500 Golden Dragon
ATI Radeon 9600SE

For such a good system....thats one hell of a bottleneck in the way of the 9600se.

Do you have all drivers installed etc....and all graphics driver options set to performance cos the score is lower than I would think?

mobo57
02-27-2004, 11:26 AM
Looks more like a score for '03. Got to do something about that vid card though, kinda like a flat tire on your porsche.

ShadeZeRO
02-27-2004, 12:48 PM
Well im not going to buy a new video card till mabey late march because i heard that ATI is going to unleash some new products, but im not sure. Anyway the 9800XT is a beauty i would love to have one rigt now but im going to wait a bit.

Somone just told me to turn off my anti aliasing, i think that was the problem. I set mine to max, anywayz, what is anti aliasing for? and is it good for games?

How do i set to performance???

mobo57
02-27-2004, 01:16 PM
I agree about waiting, hear there are going to be some really good cards coming out, and then there is PCI express coming too. Watch that 9800 XT drop to under 300$ overnight like the 9800 Pro did. I have a 9800 Pro (well, waiting for it to be returned on warranty, another story) on a 3200 xp system. Get from 16500 stock to 19000 with a little oc'ing. I would think that even with that card you should be getting scores in the low teens. Try tunning Aquanox or 3dmark 03 and see what your cpu and vid card scores are.

AA is suppose to enhance the quality of the display. But it does have an impact on performance. I usually leave it turned off. To change the settings on my card I go into control panel>display>settings>advance and then adjust to fit. If you haven't made any adjustments, should be set at optimal or balanced.

Try setting for performance and see what you get. You can also use a oc' program on the card. I like Rivatuner. Only thing is I don't know how much if at all that card will oc. And oc'ing it can be dangerous (my other story above) for what extra performance you can get.

MrBurns
02-27-2004, 01:23 PM
If you had AA on, your score is normal. You should get a 5 digit score w/o AA. Make sure, that Anisotropic Filtering is also turned off and that the driver is set to max. performance.

bblqj78
03-06-2004, 04:26 PM
Latest 2001 score....19139

XP2800 @215x11
NF7-S V2
1Gb Corsair XMS 3200
9800pro (core 410, mem 370)

ShadeZeRO
03-06-2004, 10:15 PM
im gonna call the fbi on u lol, u use kazaa, ill call the RIAA also :D

jk, i wish i had those numbers, what do scores for the 9800XT look like?? AND DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THOSE NEW CARDS ARE GONNA COME OUT!!!

bblqj78
03-07-2004, 05:23 PM
u use kazaa


Hmm...maybe desktop shots aint a good idea:eek:

Anyway...I dont use it...its just installed:D

mobo57
03-07-2004, 06:08 PM
I think Shade had a little too much o' the grog.....

MrBurns
03-07-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by ShadeZeRO
im gonna call the fbi on u lol, u use kazaa, ill call the RIAA also :D

It us not forbidden to use kazaa. You can also download legal things w/ kazaa.

PlatoonSgtElias
03-08-2004, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by bblqj78
Latest 2001 score....19139

XP2800 @215x11
NF7-S V2
1Gb Corsair XMS 3200
9800pro (core 410, mem 370)

LOL... i will beat you soon with my Radeon9700 and XP2500 :P

Protsessor: AMD Barton XP2500@3200+ (2576MHz, 235x11)@ 2,06v
Jahutus: Falconrock II with a 90x90 Vent@7v
Videokaart: ATI Radeon 9700 (275\275)@9700PRO (325\310) 128Mb 2,8ns Hercules 3D Prophet with Zalman ZM80C-HP+ZM-OP1 fan (390\351)
Mälu: PQI 512Mb 400MHz Pc3200 CL2,5 | 2-3-3-3
Kõvaketas: Seagate 120GB Barracuda 7200.7 ST3120026A UDMA/100 8MB
Emaplaat: Abit NF7 Nforce2 Ultra 400
Toiteplokk: Aopen 350W Low Noise FSP350-60PN(PF)
Korpus: Xenon XB
Monitor: 15" AOC 5Glr+ (terav ja selge pilt)
CD Rom: Nec CDRW 12x10x32
Klaviatuur: Microsoft Internet Keyboard
Hiir: Logitech Optical Mouse UV69

3DMark2001: 18,923p http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7627636

PlatoonSgtElias
03-11-2004, 06:16 PM
Ok Here it is :P



19016 with a Radeon9700:)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7644505

ATI RADEON 8500
03-16-2004, 01:08 PM
I rember there was a discussion about hamster inside the computer in this thread... Well it acutlaly happened...:eek:

Hamster PC (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=742432)

mobo57
03-17-2004, 11:39 AM
19118 with the omega drivers and new Arctic Cooler on my 9800 pro.

PlatoonSgtElias
04-04-2004, 09:32 PM
Why ppl spend money on stupid things like VGA Silencer?
oh well...

no volt modds yet
xp2500
512pqi cl2,5 pc3200
ati9700

3DMark2001: 20,087p http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7723272
3DMark2003: 6,145p http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2327548
Aquamark: 46,028p (CPU: 8558, GFX: 6327)


pics:

http://www.zone.ee/platoonsgtelias/1/falconrock2.jpg?2
<- that fan for OC... normally i use Falconrock2 fan@5v YES REALLY NOISY Falconrock2@5v :(

http://www.zone.ee/platoonsgtelias/1/mybarton_OC.JPG?2

http://www.zone.ee/platoonsgtelias/1/Kast.jpg?2

ATI RADEON 8500
04-04-2004, 10:49 PM
[i]
http://www.zone.ee/platoonsgtelias/1/falconrock2.jpg?2
<- that fan for OC... normally i use Falconrock2 fan@5v YES REALLY NOISY Falconrock2@5v :(



Nice cheap mod for the video card... But isnt it too **** heavy for the card?

I have the same kind heatsink... It's a speeze from newegg.com right?

bblqj78
04-05-2004, 03:47 AM
Why ppl spend money on stupid things like VGA Silencer?

cos they are cheap...do the job well....and cost less than the fan and heatsink youve put on your card.:D

AdamST
04-08-2004, 08:09 PM
5474

P4 2.4A (400Mhz FSB)
Aopen AX45-V Motherboard
Radeon 9800Pro (398 Core, 344 Memory)
256MB PC2100 Ram

Why is more score so low???

[Edit] Wrong thread...should have posted in the other one.

wakeforce
04-12-2004, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by AdamST
5474

P4 2.4A (400Mhz FSB)
Aopen AX45-V Motherboard
Radeon 9800Pro (398 Core, 344 Memory)
256MB PC2100 Ram

Why is more score so low???

[Edit] Wrong thread...should have posted in the other one.

LOL I have 3000

AdamST
04-17-2004, 11:47 AM
Ok i got 12000+ with 3dmark2001

cwin
04-17-2004, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by AdamST
Ok i got 12000+ with 3dmark2001 RAM is holdin ya back quite a bit.. 256mb aint too much ya know

cwin
04-17-2004, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by AdamST
5474

P4 2.4A (400Mhz FSB)
Aopen AX45-V Motherboard
Radeon 9800Pro (398 Core, 344 Memory)
256MB PC2100 Ram

Why is more score so low???

[Edit] Wrong thread...should have posted in the other one. Your 3dmark03 score is ok, not your 3dmark01 tho

i get 15000-16000 on my
R9700np,
P4 2.8GHz 533mhz FSB
Asus P4G8X Delux

3dmark01 is more of a full system benchmark - it isnt your graphics card holding you back
Your processor is ok,
motherboard i dont know,
gfx card - can i have it plz ;)
RAM - more would help

and make sure that all computer settings are optimal performance
:t

i have 256mb RAM on my laptop and it hurts

Bigjakkstaffa
04-17-2004, 02:28 PM
I woudl try overclocking the FSB of the RAM and CPU, even if the RAM cant take much, as its a P4 system you can run the CPU asynchronous (i.e. at a different FSB) to the RAM and still see a performance gain. Similarly it might be an to try squeezing a few more MHz out of the CPU

--Jakk:t

AdamST
04-17-2004, 02:38 PM
I woudl try overclocking the FSB of the RAM and CPU, even if the RAM cant take much, as its a P4 system you can run the CPU asynchronous (i.e. at a different FSB) to the RAM and still see a performance gain. Similarly it might be an to try squeezing a few more MHz out of the CPU

I don't know how to overclock the CPU or Ram. I'll i have ever done was overlock the card (i got it to 415/370). I use the stock Fan/heatstick on my CPU. I would be afraid i would screw it up.

cwin
04-17-2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Bigjakkstaffa
I woudl try overclocking the FSB of the RAM and CPU, even if the RAM cant take much, as its a P4 system you can run the CPU asynchronous (i.e. at a different FSB) to the RAM and still see a performance gain. Similarly it might be an to try squeezing a few more MHz out of the CPU

--Jakk:t The RAM speed wouldnt account for that much of a difference.. (my PC2700 RAM runs at PC2100 speed).. CPU speed i dont know, should it make that much of a diff for 400mhz and a slightly diff FSB?

MrBurns
04-17-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by AdamST
I don't know how to overclock the CPU or Ram. I'll i have ever done was overlock the card (i got it to 415/370). I use the stock Fan/heatstick on my CPU. I would be afraid i would screw it up.

There are a lot of oc-guides here, including stability testing. Just use the search function. I think I also posted one some time ago, but I dont have the text stored in a file on my HDD, and I wont write it again, but if I find it, I will post you a link.

Bigjakkstaffa
04-17-2004, 02:50 PM
Moving up to 133Mhz or 166Mhz FSB would give a rather healthy boost in performance.

A common practice amongst AMD users who dont overclock is to lower the multiplier and raise the FSB, as such they dont overclock the CPU but recieve a very healthy boost to the RAM performance.

--Jakk:t

AdamST
04-17-2004, 03:01 PM
Ok i will do a little searching. Oh and my 3Dmark2001 was with 415/370 but that was my 3Dmark03 score with stock settings. With 415/370 i got 5743. Anyways ill check out google and the search on this forum and report back.

[Edit]

Well i looked at a few sites. I get what i need to do by not how. As far as voltage goes andf stuff like that. Like would i do it like a video card, up the FSB a little at a time. Or take it right to 133 from 100. Also about the voltage, is the a % i need to take it up for every Mhz of FSB speed.

Also it a Northwood NOT prescott

[Edit]

CPU-Z also calls it a Northwood

I overclocked it to 2600Mhz. and ram is OC'd to PC2300. Becasue of my motherboard i cant overclock to my own chosing. it is quit strange.

antec
04-18-2004, 05:03 PM
XP 2500+ @ 2596mhz (236*11)
Abit NF7-s
2 x 512 XMS ProSeries twinx matched module pair.
seagate 160gb + seagate 120 SATA150 drive
Ati 9800Pro overclocked like a demon
Antec Trueblue 480Watt PSU

got 23,560 last weekend.


Duron1000 @ 1330Mhz
Aopen Mk33 board
128Mb Pc133 SD-RAM (some **** brand)
WD20GB + Seagate 40GB
Geforce 4 MX 440 8XAGP (not that the board supports that, did have a geforce 2 mx-200 but that died after nealy 3 years)

4,127 is the best so far.


Mate's AMD 3D @ like 66mhz
16MB pc 100
trident blade 8mb video card
2.3Gb god knows what HDD
Heaps of processors running (spyware & what not)

65 is the worst.....67 the best

MrBurns
04-18-2004, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by antec
Heaps of processors running (spyware & what not)

You also should know, taht on a slow CPU everything stresses the CPU more. I once had a Pentium 200MHz, first w/ Win95, later w/ Win98. I think I never had less than 5% CPU utilisation according to sysmon, even when only sysmon, explorer and systray were running. When only these apps were running, it was between 5% and 25%.

werz
05-16-2004, 11:11 AM
3D Mark 2001se 12,160 with GA NForce 400 ultra Pro M/Board DDR
768 M/B Kingston Ram 2700
Triplex G4-Ti 4600 x 128M/B NVidia card at
mem 648MHz
core 338MHz
1024 x 768 at 85hertz refreshrate

XP2700+ 167 fsb 13x 2170 MHz
I dont know why the score is so low, I have benchmarked it with 3D Mark 2003
with the fsb at 200 and multiplier at x12 but the score was hardly different from default , the only setting not default in this test was the multiplier which was 13x.
Default is 12.5x

pandaz3
05-16-2004, 12:03 PM
Werz... I don't think that was a bad score with a TI 4600... a lot of people with higher, had to do some drastic cooling to their CPU and Video Card. The 4600 tends to run hot.

MrBurns
05-16-2004, 05:19 PM
be sure, that vsync, anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering is disabled.

werz
05-18-2004, 03:43 AM
I increased the fsb to 170
and the multiplier to x14 = 2380Mhz
now 3D Mark 2001se score is 11899
it runs smoothly but slower,
the options in BIOS for AGP are auto or x4
I turned everything of in the GForce 4 ti 4600 properties in Display.except image performance was set on high.
AF = off
AS = off
AV = off should I leave the cpu settings alone and only increase the mem and core settings in the video card?
in the 3D Mark2001se details it says...
Rate.
rev 2.0
1x, 2x
4x, (4x enabled) so I'm not sure if the AGP setting was off or not, anyway I think I'll return to default fsb and multiplier with the AS set on 4x, the max the card will go and put the system back to Quality, as the difference in fps is minimal but in visual quality is noticeable enough to make even the Benchmark tests look better.
Thanks for your help.
werz

MrBurns
05-18-2004, 12:46 PM
what about vsync? ius ita lso off?

mobo57
05-18-2004, 04:41 PM
About at the top for this system:
19,418
Abit NF7-S 2.0 Mobo
AMD 3200 XP @ 12.5*200 Vantec Aeroflow
ATi 9800 Pro @ 444/756 Arctic Silencer
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6&projectId=7841829

werz
05-19-2004, 01:03 AM
v sync was off to, I'll try again after I next do a format, then I'll be sure its as lean as possible, it's been a while and could have something I cant find holding it back, also will experiment with v'card settings, I saw a program which lets me adjust them 10% at a time, I'm just not sure if it's on this h/d as I disconnected one the other day.

aghastpumpkin
05-20-2004, 06:33 AM
Hi
Im pretty new to this stuff and to save creating a new thread, where can i download the benchmark software????
How do i do it?
Sorry about my ignorance:(
Thanks

aghastpumpkin
05-20-2004, 06:42 AM
d/w! Found it! sorry! will have my results up sharpish!:p

werz
05-21-2004, 12:26 AM
how do I change the ram settings?
at the moment in AIDA32 they show
2.5-3-3-7. I cant be certain but I think I saw them before at. 2-2-2-7 could that be right? and is there a way to adjust these values, in the bios I can change the dim voltages, what should I change them to or by how much should I increase the voltage?

werz
05-21-2004, 12:51 AM
In the program ET4 which allows adjustments to be made to all my settings on the G.A m/board, in have async values of
DRAM 334
DRAM volts 2.600
system bus 167 MHz
multiplier 12.5
for a total of 2079.54MHz
AGP is 66 and agp volts are 1.500
CPU volts 1.70

MrBurns
05-21-2004, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by werz
how do I change the ram settings?

in the bios under advanced chipset features. some mainboards dont allow changing these settings (some intel mainboards, most oem-mainboasds,...).

werz
05-21-2004, 03:39 AM
Mr Burns
OK I'll go into thye bios but from memory it has voltage increases for the Dimm at 0.1v
but I'll go and check that first and get back to you.
Werz

werz
05-21-2004, 03:54 AM
Mr Burns, I've just checked the settings in bios they can be changed as follows.
AGP overvoltage control (+0.1)
(+0.2)
(+0.3)
DIMM overvoltage control (+0.1)
(+0.2)
I have also a Triplex program which will increase the Video Card by 10% increments. There are 3 different settings I can change in this program, they are,,
Memory, Core, and Vidio, I dont know the purpose of Vidio (there spelling) I only adjusted it once the minimum setting, and the screen went blank and I had to reset the cmos by removing the battery before it would start again.
Thanks Werz

MrBurns
05-21-2004, 04:57 AM
you shouldnt overvolt the agp, because overvolting the agp only makes sense when ou oc the agp and ocing the agp doesnt make much sense, because the agp is fast enough and you only risk to damage your graphics cars.

but can overvolt your memory to +2.8V. this shouldnt be a dangerous for your memory, but it will increase the overclockablilty of your ram. to find out, what the default violtage of your memory is use a program like CPUCool. I.e. if the default voltage is 2.5V, than ypu can go up to +0.3V (2.5V+0.3V=2.8V).

onion
06-02-2004, 10:47 PM
Toshiba a45-s121 laptop

Celeron 2.8ghz
512mb ram
intel extreme graphics 2.0 (32mb shared video memory)

1024x768 3Dmark2001 = 2210

punknhobo
06-07-2004, 09:31 PM
Athlon XP 1700 @ 1540
512 RAM
GeForce FX 5700LE 256mb @ 400/517
Win2k SP 4

3dmark2001 = 9168

pandaz3
06-07-2004, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by onion
Toshiba a45-s121 laptop

Celeron 2.8ghz
512mb ram
Intel extreme graphics 2.0 (32mb shared video memory)

1024x768 3Dmark2001 = 2210

I haven't seen a laptop on here for awhile... they rarely do well compared to a desktop... Most desktops have much better video and Hard drives which really help the scores and the Celerons are better suited to data than gaming... that being said... I bet you like your Laptop.

pandaz3
06-07-2004, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by punknhobo
Athlon XP 1700 @ 1540
512 RAM
GeForce FX 5700LE 256mb @ 400/517
Win2k SP 4

3dmark2001 = 9168

Not bad for your equipment!

punknhobo
06-07-2004, 10:57 PM
the thing i liked about the 5700 LE besides being cheap is that it runs nice and stable overclocked...it made all the difference in the world to take it from 250Mhz core clock 400Mhz memory clock up to 400Mhz core 517Mhz memory.....that plus giving the processor a little nudge from stock ~1466Mhz up to 1560Mhz...the little overclocking that i did brough the score up from a stock 7166 to the 9168

would boost it more but i dont have serious cooling on it yet

pandaz3
06-07-2004, 11:30 PM
That is a serious OC on that card!

k4rl
06-12-2004, 10:45 PM
i have a 32-bit AMD Athlon Processer
An Abit Kd7 Motherboard
2 sticks of 256k memory
and an ATI Radeon 9800 Por

I Scored a 14786!

Disasterpiece
06-13-2004, 02:31 AM
hahaha i get 18432


intel 2.4HT oc 3.06
2098mb ddr 333
gf4ti4600 128 +256 shared


:D

Disasterpiece
06-13-2004, 02:33 AM
oh oh and thats @ 1600 x 1200 res BTW 21' monitor

MrBurns
06-13-2004, 07:59 AM
your score seems a littöle high for your GPU, expecially @ 1600x1200. Did you use the default setting for all other 3DMark settings?

I only have 14k @ 1024x768, althought my system is compareable to yours and I found out, that it isnt a bad score for my system.


My System:

Athlon XP 2700+@179x13 (2327MHz) (wich should be about as fast as your p4)
1024MB RAM (which is more than enough for 3DMark)
GF 4 Ti 4600 128MB + 512MB aperture (I had the best score w/ 512MB aperture)


Make a benchmark @ 1024x768 w/ default settings.


btw. what do you mean by "256 shared"? Do you mean the AGP aperture size?

BionicSniper
06-15-2004, 02:56 PM
10896
9800se
2500+
256 ddr400

im gona get another crucial 256mb stick of ram on friday and then when i get better coolers for my gpu & cpu im gona take mt 2500+ to a 3200+ then oc my 9800se as far as it will go

MrBurns
06-15-2004, 05:48 PM
your score is much too low. it should be far over 15000.

namrak
06-16-2004, 01:14 AM
Well, I finally built a new computer rig and thus I feel I can now rejoin the enthusiast crowd set again. Here's the basic system spec:

AMD Barton 2500+ oc'ed to 2.2GHz (200fsb & 11x multi)
MSI KT6V mobo
2x Kingston HyperX PC3200 512MB sticks
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB oc'ed (415core /375mem)

Ran 3DMark2001 SE three times (default setting) and took the average...

16395

...which seems like its in the right area from what I've read.

wakeforce
06-16-2004, 10:45 AM
Ok... I've got like, the worst score ever to happen on this board... 2091 :mad:

P4 2Ghz
256 megs factory RAM
512megs Kingston RAM
Geforce 2mx OC'ed like crazy @ 209 core 421 memory (absolute max for this card)

Darn ****ty factory videocards

Nascarfan_40
07-13-2004, 08:26 PM
CPU - AMD AthlonXP 2500+
Mem - 2x256 PMI Turbo PC3200 "duel channel"
Mobo - Abit NF7-S v2.0
HD - Samsung 160gb
GPU - eVGA Geforce FX 5700

All running stock speeds

3DMark2001 Score = 11,172

DozerLYP
07-14-2004, 01:12 AM
3DMark2001 Score = 23324


on my

ASUS SK8V motherboard
AMD 64 FX51 chip
Corsair Twinx 1024RE 3200LL Ram
antec 480w psu
2x Raptor 36gig SATA 10,000rpm on Raid 0
120gig IDE WD 8mb buffer
Sony DVD/CDWR
Audigy 2zs Platnum
BFG GeForce 6800 GT
Windows XP Pro

:D

Bigjakkstaffa
08-26-2004, 12:45 PM
17074

--Jakk:t

darrenw1967
09-14-2004, 03:51 PM
19032

a64 3500
av8 asus
2 x 512 pc3200
abit fx 5900
no overclocking yet!:D

racronus
09-18-2004, 04:51 AM
i swear this must be the longest post here, i cant even find my score anymore

Sweeper
09-18-2004, 07:42 AM
LOL... LOOOONNNGGG thread!!!!!!

First Post: 10-01-2001


MY FIRST POST (in this thread): 10-10-2001


:eek: :D:p

causticVapor
09-27-2004, 05:17 AM
19267

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8144034

First time I've broken 19K on this Athlon XP system, mainly due to the mobile barton and improved 4.9 driver suite.:D

Greets Sweeper, long time no see. :)

darrenw1967
09-28-2004, 06:01 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8147348

finally broke 20000 :D

bblqj78
11-16-2004, 06:50 PM
Well....at last I've beaten my liftimes goal......

to break 20K with my 9800pro....hehe.

All be it I had to spend £300 on a AMD 64 and new board....but hey....I'm pleased:D


points.....22126


Amd 64 3500 @ 210x11 (2.3Ghz)
1 Gb XMS3200
9800 pro (oc'd)
MSI K8N Neo2 Plat

MrBurns
11-16-2004, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by bblqj78
9800 pro (oc'd)

how much oc?

bblqj78
11-16-2004, 07:24 PM
core 405...mem 378

porsch1909
11-22-2004, 07:48 AM
i would have gotten a better graphics card.

bblqj78
11-23-2004, 10:29 AM
i would have gotten a better graphics card.

Have been using the video card for over a year now...and with the performance I'm getting from HL2 and the likes of NFSU-2...I dont really need one (for a couple of months anyway)

pandaz3
11-23-2004, 07:11 PM
I am at 15, 295 not bad for a AIW 9600XT 128 Meg, I cant afford more and don't care anyway...FS2004 flys fine.

Phil2k3
12-13-2004, 07:18 PM
What is considered a good score these days on 3DMARK2001?

MrBurns
12-13-2004, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Phil2k3
What is considered a good score these days on 3DMARK2001?

I think, 20k is a really good score.

Phil2k3
12-22-2004, 06:51 PM
I got 23265

with 1 gig of ram
AMD ATHLON 3500 @ 2.2Ghz
x800 xt-pe

Phil2k3
12-23-2004, 11:50 AM
New score : 24399

darrenw1967
12-25-2004, 12:14 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8219519


26000+:D

mobo57
12-25-2004, 01:37 PM
Thats an obscene score!!
And I was so happy just to break 19,000!:x

Phil2k3
12-26-2004, 11:57 AM
I am almost at 26 000...

I got 25171...

http://img72.exs.cx/img72/3586/untitled5qv.jpg

Phil2k3
12-26-2004, 12:13 PM
Is it normal that my FSB is at 0 megahertz?

tweakerpc
01-10-2005, 02:54 AM
well i got a 11336

willg99
01-16-2005, 06:07 PM
This is pretty sweet for my Dell Dimension 8100. Of course I did something silly and put an ATi Radeon X800XT 256 GDDR3 RAM in it. lol.
The setup is...
1.5GHz Pentium 4
i850 Chipset Motherboard
512MB of RDRAM
80GB HDD 7200RPM
ATi Radeon X800XT 256 GDDR3 RAM

The score is... 15215. If you don't believe it. See attachment for proof.

P.S. It gets in the 18000 range if I run it at 640x480 in 32-bit color.

porsch1909
01-16-2005, 06:47 PM
i wonder where will has a bottleneck in his system??


What PSU are you running on?

willg99
01-16-2005, 06:52 PM
I forgot to mention that. It's 330 Watt.
I used http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/ to calculate and I only needed 302 Watts.
No bottlenecks. It's been running fine for 3 weeks and just today I decided to download and install that 3dmark2001.

porsch1909
01-16-2005, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by willg99
No bottlenecks.

:rolleyes:

Well i think somehow that an X800 XT should give a heluva better 3dmark01 score than that buddy. your bottleneck lies in the CPU my friend....and probably the RAM.

willg99
01-16-2005, 07:32 PM
Well I thought that was pretty good considering my last card (ATi Radeon 7500) was only achieving scores of about a 4300 range. This card really belongs to my other system.

porsch1909
01-16-2005, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by willg99
Well I thought that was pretty good considering my last card (ATi Radeon 7500) was only achieving scores of about a 4300 range. This card really belongs to my other system.

wether the score be good or not doesnt take away from the fact it could be a lot better...impying there is a bottleneck in the system.

willg99
01-16-2005, 07:58 PM
This better for you!? I screwed around with the Display Properties.

willg99
01-16-2005, 08:04 PM
My other system is an AMD Athlon 64. I took the card out of that and stuck the X800XT in for the heck of it.
The other system. . .
Athlon 64 3500+ @ 2.7 GHz
SOLTEK "SL-K8TPro-939"
512MB of DDR550 by Giel
160GB HDD 7200RPM
And the X800XT card.

The most recent 3dmark2001 score was 24629.

MrBurns
01-16-2005, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by porsch1909
i wonder where will has a bottleneck in his system??


What PSU are you running on?

I think, I found the bottleneck:

1.5GHz Pentium 4

And the PSU cannot have an influence on the 3DMark score. when it is too weak, the system doesnt boot at all or it makes random reboots.

willg99
01-16-2005, 08:36 PM
Well I kinda misunderstood bottleneck. There is nothing wrong with my computer. Besides. I just put the old card back in. (A n ATi Radeon 9200SE 128MB DDR I bought last week.)

tweakerpc
01-17-2005, 12:40 AM
the video card is your bottneck, it is about the same as my 5600 ultra, it is low end card?

porsch1909
01-17-2005, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by willg99
My other system is an AMD Athlon 64. I took the card out of that and stuck the X800XT in for the heck of it.
The other system. . .
Athlon 64 3500+ @ 2.7 GHz
SOLTEK "SL-K8TPro-939"
512MB of DDR550 by Giel
160GB HDD 7200RPM
And the X800XT card.

The most recent 3dmark2001 score was 24629.

Thats better!

And mrburns please read all the posts before you post. It was a sarcastic comment....and the PSU part was just out of interest.

RockNRoll
01-21-2005, 03:19 PM
My (important) specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+
Gainward FX5900 Golden Sample
512mb RAM

Ran all the tests and I scored a 15,537!!! WOOHOO!

Sweet Gainward!!! I'm glad my Aopen 5900XT was defective.:eek: LOL!:D

MrBurns
01-21-2005, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by RockNRoll
Sweet Gainward!!! I'm glad my Aopen 5900XT was defective.:eek: LOL!:D

Why did you get a Gainwand instead of your Aopen?

Did you have no warranty on the Aopen?

RockNRoll
01-21-2005, 03:44 PM
Yep, but 5900XT's were discontinued so the company (GameVe) was offering this instead cuz there were no 5900XT's anywhere.

But I shall never buy from GameVe again cuz they stink with RMA's and took them forever to ship it we had to call them every step for them to do it.

AllGamer
01-27-2005, 12:49 AM
21742 :)

MrBurns
01-27-2005, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by AllGamer
21742 :)

what kind of system do you have?

porsch1909
01-27-2005, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by AllGamer
21742 :)

and when was the last time you posted before this!!

You left us for a while a suspect.....joined another forum perhaps.....:mad:

AllGamer
01-27-2005, 11:48 AM
Yeah, i've been busy at work, and also taking care of mytreo.net (http://mytreo.net)
i'm one of the admins there :t


ASUS A8V Deluxe
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
Kingmax MPXD42D-D8IB3-MAA (1024 Mb)
Kingmax MPXD42D-D8IB3-MAA (1024 Mb)
Kingmax MPXC22D-38KT3R-FEA (512 Mb)
Kingmax MPXC22D-38KT3R-FEA (512 Mb)
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
ATI RADEON® X800 XT Platinum Edition
ATI TV Wonder Pro
ATI TV Wonder Pro
19" CRT Samsung flat
17" CRT Viewsonic
LG DVD+-RW GSA-4163B
Maxtor SATA 300 GB
Maxtor SATA 300 GB
WD Raptor SATA 74 GB
WD Raptor SATA 74 GB
Maxtor ATA133 20 GB + WD Caviar ATA133 20 GB (raided)
Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter, Copper RJ-45
Sportster Voice 33.6 PnP FAX External
Logitech MX1000 mouse
FireFly Manhattan keyboard
Sunbeam UV Acrylic case
Nikao UV Case FAN (x5)
Aspire 500w PSU trasparent blue (AeroCool 550w transparent blue is in the mail)

I also have a Thermatake PurePower 480w PSU with changing light colors

do you guys think that 480w is enough for my rig?
:confused:

porsch1909
01-27-2005, 12:21 PM
well the computer works and you get great 3dmark scores.

Have you overclocked that super fab trendy georgous graphics card yet. You should be able to breach 6000 in 3dmark05. espeicailly with that CPU and loads of RAM etc.

darrenw1967
01-27-2005, 03:14 PM
Allgamer you have still got some headroom there with the same system but only 1 gig of ram ( I can't believe I said only)and normal sata hdd I get around 6200, enjoy.

AllGamer
01-27-2005, 03:28 PM
of course, like i said on my test, it's Default everything.

when i get a chance, i'll tweak it a bit and maybe OC it to get more juice out of it.

i'll post updated results later on, after i make more test, once have done the tweaks :)

as it's now on default everything, as you can see on the other topic for 2005

it already gives out 5700+ on its own, without OC or ram optimization. :D

porsch1909
01-28-2005, 04:50 AM
What did you pay for that card?

bblqj78
01-28-2005, 04:34 PM
24647 for me...:D

AllGamer
01-28-2005, 06:07 PM
hmm... i'm having trouble optimizing the RAM, everytime i try to do anything it starts to behave erradicallly.... i guess i'll have to either choose OC RAM or OC CPU, but not both :rolleyes:

AllGamer
01-29-2005, 01:17 AM
wow, i just made some minor changes and now i get

22509

willg99
02-05-2005, 09:09 PM
Just got an Aquagate Water Cooler for my AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Newcastle. I was able to squeeze 300MHz more out of it before my system grew unstable. I was able to post at 3.1GHz. But now it is sitting at 2.9GHz heavy load around 55-60C and very happy w/ it now.

NOW. When I benchmarked it I got 27863. That was the most I ever got out of oc'ing.

hoi
02-06-2005, 02:48 PM
Well I got 4405


My specs are:


Athlon 700Mhz
Gigabyte 71XE
640 Mb SDRAM
Inno3D Geforce 3 Ti500 (nVidia 21.83 drivers)
Samsung SP0802N HDD (7200rpm, 2mb)



Is this any Good?

pandaz3
02-06-2005, 03:11 PM
That's very reasonable!, pretty old parts, but they still work.

hoi
02-06-2005, 03:19 PM
Cool!!

I'm looking at upgrading parts quite soon.. my old geforce 256 ddr 32mb card gave me problems and so I got the Geforce 3ti500 on ebay for £15 (about £20 inc P&P).

I think my next step is an Athlon 64 at least 3000 and 512mb PC3200.


Gonna have to save up for funds though!

I ran 3DMark 2003 once and got about 800 and something but I think that was with my old card (the Geforce 256 DDR) Will run again and post in the other thread..

Cheers

pandaz3
02-06-2005, 03:29 PM
'03 is video card intensive and unless you have a DX9.0 or better card you will get very low scores.

hoi
02-06-2005, 04:04 PM
Thanks..

Just ran 2003 on build 3.1 (not sure if it's the latest? got it from an old cover disk - file's too big to download)

I got 797 - seems low but then again my geforce wan't built for Direct X 9.

I did have a prob with the last test (sound test 3) where it froze after a few frames. Had to escape but still managed to get my score. (This happened last time, my bruv thinks its to do with my sound card SB audigy LS which has switched on this option as his PC doesn't enable this option) :confused:

BlackTruckRyder
02-17-2005, 03:02 AM
Just scored 14343

MSI K7N2 Delta L
Athlon Xp 2500+ @ 2.3Ghz
512 mb pc 3200 ram Mushkin
Radeon 9800se 378 core 290 mem

MadPistol
02-20-2005, 04:05 PM
Haha. You guys are going to love this one.

Dell Inspiron 8600 (Laptop)

Intel Centrino Tech.
Pentium M 1.8 Ghz
512mb PC2700
Geforce FX Go5200 64mb
80GB 5400 RPM HDD
15.4" WSXGA+ Widescreen
DVD/CD-RW Drive

Here are the results...

6649....:eek:

Oh well. Not a great gaming computer, but it still plays Everquest II at a very resonable speed. Gets kinda hot though. :t

porsch1909
02-20-2005, 05:02 PM
Ill have that laptop thank you!

Must be good for just general taks etc....

MadPistol
02-23-2005, 12:28 AM
Well, there is a good side to everything.

On LCD displays, its hard to tell the difference in the resolutions. Basically I have a motto with this laptop...

Turn down the res, turn up the details!!!

It plays HL2 really well, so I'm not complaining.

But I think you have to love the battery life the most...

2 hrs. 30 min gaming!!!!

4 hours listening to music!!!!


Its a keeper. :t

mobo57
02-23-2005, 12:49 AM
Never thought about running it on my laptop... hum...
Compaq Presario 1500
Intel 1.6 M
512 meg
ATi 7500 64 meg Mobile
yada yada yada.
3764 ?
what tha????
Think I should load HL2 on it?

bulbhead
02-25-2005, 01:25 PM
just ran another benchmark this time i oc the card a bit to 570 1100 ive got and 64 3000+ 6600gt abit kv8pro motherboard can anyone tell me if the score is any good please new to all this oc and have i gone to far with the ocing

willywonka
02-27-2005, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by bulbhead
just ran another benchmark this time i oc the card a bit to 570 1100 ive got and 64 3000+ 6600gt abit kv8pro motherboard can anyone tell me if the score is any good please new to all this oc and have i gone to far with the ocing

Lets see you 3dmark2001 score then?

bulbhead
02-28-2005, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by willywonka
Lets see you 3dmark2001 score then? here is my 3dmark 2001:t

mobo57
02-28-2005, 03:51 PM
I thinks you can do better than that, maybe. I do that with my 9800 Pro stock and a 3200 XP at 2.3.
Oc'd I've gone over 19k.

willywonka
03-01-2005, 05:18 AM
bulbhead i think thats about right.
This system gets 17234 2001 marks and 3587 2005 marks..

asus A7N8X-E
Xp 3200+ @ 220x10=2.2ghz
1gig dual 440mhz
Gainward GS 6600gt stock 540core 1050mem.

With stock cpu at ddr400 it score's 15000.
Edit:your 3dmark 2005 score is very good i dont think a 9800 could match that on air..

willywonka
03-01-2005, 05:25 AM
bulbhead over clocking your cpu to say 3200+ speed will give you a big increase..
Your vid card sould be fine at those speeds if you see any funny business mabey lower your core 10mhz..

Ankerson
03-11-2005, 09:03 AM
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/794/3dmark2001sex800se5205600px.jpg


Compare URL: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8472302

shinjieva01
03-15-2005, 11:49 PM
11529

Pentium 4 2.71Ghz (OC'd)
Radeon 9600XT 256mb
Mobo: Asus p4S533
768MB ram
Western Digital 60GB 7200rpm
Western Digital 120GB 7200rpm
Thermaltake Polo 735 3-in-1 Cooler w/ Silver Compound

WIN XP PRO

Ankerson
03-19-2005, 07:15 PM
http://img161.exs.cx/img161/4493/3dmark2001se5005203fg.jpg


Compare URL: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8485357

3.0E Prescott

X800Pro @ 500/520

RamonGTP
03-20-2005, 10:59 PM
I just got done doing some tweaking on my machine, and i'm pretty happy with the results. Scored over 20200 points on a 9800 Pro and a mobile barton.

Complete Specs:
NF7-S V2
Mobile 2600+ @ 220x11
2x512MB Low Latency PC3200 @ 2-2-2-11 (1:1 ratio)
128MB 9800 Pro @ 420/380

Feels good to keep up with the big boys like an x800 pro. Although this is only 3dmark 01, I know that no amount of tweaking will keep me up with current generation cards in edmark 03 or 05.

willywonka
10-17-2005, 09:52 PM
woohoo i got top score.. :cool: [ till RJsPC makes a post :( ]

AMD 4000+@ 260x11 2860mhz
Dfi sli-dr
7800gtx @ 470/1300
1gig corsair 550 @ 520mhz

RJsPC
10-18-2005, 11:49 PM
woohoo i got top score.. :cool: [ till RJsPC makes a post :( ]

AMD 4000+@ 260x11 2860mhz
Dfi sli-dr
7800gtx @ 470/1300
1gig corsair 550 @ 520mhz
Ill leave you alone WW this one's all you :t

RJsPC
10-19-2005, 02:24 AM
woohoo i got top score.. :cool: [ till RJsPC makes a post :( ]

AMD 4000+@ 260x11 2860mhz
Dfi sli-dr
7800gtx @ 470/1300
1gig corsair 550 @ 520mhz
BTW thats an excellent score

willywonka
10-19-2005, 05:11 AM
Arhh its eating at me i cant sleep or eat :D
Post post...

porsch1909
10-19-2005, 07:14 AM
It's a pointless test now anyway :rolleyes:

JediOfDarkness
10-19-2005, 02:09 PM
My score with my lowly XP2400 :rolleyes:

scrogathon
11-02-2005, 06:49 PM
P4 prescott, 3.0 ghz 800mhz fsb
1 stick 1 gb ddr azenram pc3200
1 stick 512 mb ddr kingston valueram pc3200
ati radeon x800xl @420/1085
300 watt psu
3dmark2001 score 17123, with the 512 stick only its 18359, is this good for my system?
btw i ran the sandra benchmarks, and my memory bandwidth is only running 39% any help for this? or is it my ram? i can return the ram if needed.

zybch
11-09-2005, 01:10 AM
Well my last score was:

3D Mark 2001 SE - 23503
3D Mark 03 - 15,870
3D Mark 05 - 7345

Guess my nice shiny new 7800GT (430/1200) helps somewhat eh?
I was getting just under 5200 with my previous card in 05 with an X800XL so thats around a 40% boost :)

Hopefully when I get my new X2 4200+ CPU in a week or so the 2001SE scores should be even higher. But perhaps not, you never really know.

porsch1909
11-09-2005, 07:12 AM
I thought you where waiting for an X1800??

zybch
11-09-2005, 09:10 AM
I thought I was too, but a number of things made me change my mind like the need to get an entirely new mobo if I ever wanted to run crossfire (I allready have an SLi board), the increased price and the whole 'I gotta have something NOW' thing.

bblqj78
12-01-2005, 05:40 PM
just scored

27,200

with latest build. Its gota go up yet. :D

AMD 64 3500 (@2.6)
7800GT
2Gb Ballsitix
DFI NF4 SLI-D

mrcsharp
12-03-2005, 05:56 PM
3dMark2005 Score: 3662

Hardware:
AMD 64 4000+
Asus A8N Sli Premium Motherboard
nVidia 6600GT
2GB DDR400 RAM

mobo57
12-03-2005, 07:13 PM
Hey mrc welcome to sysopt. FYI we do have a '05 thread to post in. Anyway, what's your settings on your rig? For your set up I'd think you would be getting a higher score.
I have a AMD X2 3800 oc'd to 2.5 and a X850XT AGP and score over 6300.

causticVapor
12-04-2005, 12:41 PM
18242

aopen geforce 6600 gt @ 550/1050
epox 9nda3+
winchester 3000+ @ 2250 250x9 4x HTT (1GHz)
corsair ddr400 5/4 @ 3-3-3-8 1T

RJsPC
12-11-2005, 10:35 PM
Arhh its eating at me i cant sleep or eat :D
Post post...
OK, OK, 36123

ssmitty85
12-18-2005, 01:36 AM
14099-

1440x900 res. widescreen. is this ne good for the resolution.?

P4 3.0 oced 3.5
asus mb
6600gt 128
1 gig ram

Newbie2
12-18-2005, 08:08 AM
Okay, here is my 3DMark2001 score, a low 10,346 3DMarks.

Running on:

Intel Pentium 4 3.2E CPU (Socket 478)
PCCHIPS M955G Socket 478 Motherboard
ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB AGP 8X Video Card
1GB PC3200 DDR400 RAM

jlechem
03-03-2006, 11:19 AM
Ok I hope this thread isn't dead.

Score: 16,3xx I can't recall the last 2

System:
P4 3.0 Ghz 16K+12K level 1 cache, 2MB level 2 cache
MSI mainboard
1 Gig DDR PC3200 RAM
Sapphire 256MB ATI x800 GTO pci-express video card
80 GB SATA HD

mobo57
03-03-2006, 11:30 AM
jlechem, welcome to sysopt. No the thread is not dead, just not really used as of late. That's a decent score considering. If you can, run the other benchies and post over there, It would be interesting to see what you get. :t

porsch1909
03-03-2006, 11:55 AM
like mobo said it's not dead the thread....just the benchmark is a bit pointless for modern hardware like yours :)

JediOfDarkness
03-03-2006, 02:07 PM
I guess I never did post my score with my new processor, so here it is:

Athlon 64 X2 3800 @2.4GHz
Asus A8N motherboard
2GB OCZ DDR500
GeForce 6800GT @400/1100
Enermax Whisper II 460W PSU
Creative Audigy2

Score: 26072

RJsPC
03-03-2006, 05:33 PM
I just ran a personal best of 38651 3DMarks / 01

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8901357

A8N-SLI Premium
FX57
7800GTX- SLI
1024 DDR500 x2
Raptors x2 raid 0

porsch1909
03-03-2006, 06:23 PM
Bunch of show offs :p

JediOfDarkness
03-05-2006, 01:08 AM
Yeah, I don't think I'll ever get a score as high as RJ's though :p

NikolaXS
10-03-2006, 02:30 PM
hi all

my first a64 cpu and for 60£ i had nice OC to 3.08 GHz (1.5V) :)
7900GTO

I still didn't mess with my memory, so many options in dfi lan-d ;)

i hope this is good score for my rig.
score:
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/projectdetails.jsp?projectType=6&projectId=9060241

@RjPc
Is you score with SLI 7800GTX or single card ?

mobo57
10-03-2006, 05:40 PM
Hey NickolXS, welcome to sysopt!. Can't see your score, it's your log on page. Try again. Also, run 3DMark 05 and 06. They are better benchmarks for a system like yours.

RJsPC
10-04-2006, 02:17 AM
New score
Running an X6800, and 2 7900GTX's in SLI

57674
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9058922

NikolaXS
10-04-2006, 10:26 AM
Hey NickolXS, welcome to sysopt!. Can't see your score, it's your log on page. Try again. Also, run 3DMark 05 and 06. They are better benchmarks for a system like yours.

Hi mobo, i will run a 2005, but 06 i dont like, becose it is mostly for dual core procs, score on 01 was 35xxx, last run on 06 i had 5800.

specs:

DFI nForce4 Ultra-D
3700+ sandy(E4) KAB2E @3.08 Ghz (1.5V)
xp-90c + Papst 3412 92mm fan
Antec Sonata + Hiper 580W Type-R
Samsung SpinPoint 300GB SATA2
MSI 7900GTO @710/815
LG 16x16x DVD-RW
ViewSonic 19" Widescreen