POST YOUR 3DMARK2001 SCORES!!!!

[pandaz3]

Yes

[Ammok]

Just one or two read these posts, ok then, maybe a few more.:)

I would like to know if anyone has a 3D2001 mark for an FX5200? Just to see what it does.

[Ammok]

PS.

I am persuading a freind to purchase one soon, so should be able to post a score myself in a couple of weeks or so.

[pandaz3]

From the few reviews I have read I think it will be in the 6000 to 8000 range for a 266FSB XP 2100+ or a P4 2.4 machine, its pretty hard to say since there are many equipment variables, but It should perform as well or better than an MX 4400. It doesn't seem like a great card in the overall scheme, but in the lower end value, it might be a very good choice. Not enough people posting results anywhere yet. Just a thought at the end of the post... have you visited the Futuremark site and looked for 5200 scores?

[Ammok]

Nope, never even thought of that!!! If it performs better than an mx he will will be well chuffed, he is currently on SiS chip that wont play IGI one and now his mum has bought him Vietcong and IGI Covert Strike, and he got Bob Hope of playing either, so I havwe suggested an Xp2500 plus a decent-ish graphics card, ti4200 outta budget range at the mo, and he won't upgrade again for a couple or three years after this, he's got a good wife hwho makes sure he watches his money.:)

[pandaz3]

I believe it will play VeitCong okay, seems to me you just need a 64Meg accellerator, but all those game lie, they need more to run properly. the 2001 3D Mark is a reasonable indicator of performance potential.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

VC runs fine and dandy with a 64mb card at 1024x768x3d bpp in all but the big final level in which the base gets totally overrun

--Jakk:t

[Rugor]

My big question with the FX5200 is how will the 64-bit model perform? From what I've seen the 128-bit model performs about like a Ti200 or so, but I don't expect the 64-bit version to perform anywhere near as well.

[Ammok]

I must admit that Nvidia is making me extremely wary of anything with an X in it.:)

[morpheus kain]

^^^^^ *Nods* I agree!

[NOHTO]

20637 3D-Marks (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6401795)




8RDA+ XP 2700+@2847mhz Prometeia cooled 2.05v
Radeon 9700 pro 456/348 MCW50-T (172w pelt) -15.4c coolant
2 256meg Kingston 3500 Hyper-X
TTGI-520W PSU
MODS:
VIDEO- VGPU 1.76V
MB- VDD 1.95v VDIMM 2.75v VDT 1.4v
Custom heatsinks for mosfets
6000 BTU/hr air cond. cooling case 15c

[Beast_USA]

NOHTO,

Nice score ....nice oc on that 2700 & 9700:t

[NOHTO]

Beast_USA
Thank you sir, if I could only get some decent ram I'm sure with the rest of the v-mods on the 9700 I could get close to 23000. I am suppose to be getting some twinmos in about 2 weeks that has been doing 250+ FSB, so hopefully I will get lucky.

[morpheus kain]

Nohto I'm glad to see you're still kicking @$$ on the AMD front!

[NOHTO]

I'm trying like hell. That FSB was suppose to be 450 or 2 x 225. Little misprint there. I wish they had some ram that would do 500 or 2 x 250. Maybe soon at the rate the ram has been improving.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Just managed to get past the 12k mark, only just though, taken quite a bit of fiddling

EPox 8rda+
Tbred b XP2400+ @ 2301Mhz (177x13)
512mb RAM PC2700
Geforce 4 ti4200 64mb (280/600)

--Jakk:t

[bblqj78]

12413

Just after I read your post Bigjakk

P4 2.4Ghz (clocked@2.53)
Asus P4b533-V
GF4 Ti4200 (288,588)
1024Mb 2700 RAM (same score with 512Mb)


I can get higher up to 12600-12700 running at 2.6GHz.
BigJakk...I just wanted to compare ur system to mine as I was debating buying the AMD 2400 when I bought the above system.
There aint really to much difference. Allthough you have clocked up from standard more than me. I'm still debating the AMD..Intel thing. I seem to get good scores with my system though.

[Grentarc]

If you buy a cheaper Tbred XP 2000+ and clock it up, you can still get to 2GHz on air and hit the 12000 mark with a GF4 Ti4200... and sdram...

Jakk - got a compare link there???

[Bigjakkstaffa]

No link, i dont bother with em. i'm a bit dissapointed with the overclock of the chip actually, i appear to have been 'unlucky' in getting one of the few 8rda+'s that wont do the 200Mhz FSB mark, im stuck at 177 ATM, but intend to maybe sort out some better cooling and do a VDD Mod later in the machines lifetime to see if i can get up to 200FSB. For now though all seems well enough, runs everythng except for some of the 'FPS Killer' ut2k3 maps

--Jakk:t

[NOHTO]

20781 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6456313)
I squeaked a little more out of it with the 3.3 drivers. I used some Corsair 3200 ram this time also, so I might try to add a litle voltage to the ram and see what it will do. Maybe I can get the FSB up a little more.

[Dimo]

Athlon XP 3000+
ASUS A7N8X
ASUS GF4 Ti4800 SE
2 X 256meg 2700 RAM

Score = 13333

[Ammok]

Nice score Dimo, (and very nice system!) are you overclocking yet or is this score at stock? PS, Welcome to Sysopt.:) :) :t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

I reckon thats at stock given my 2400@2.301ghz and gf4ti4200 (o/c'ed) will give just over 12k

--Jakk:t

[Dimo]

yeah its all stock.......for now.:)

[more]

Well, a bit more tweaking and this is what I got. Took out a stick of memory, boosted FSB to 150, memory to 200 and AGP and PCI to 66Mhz and 33Mhz respectively.

[Dimo]

Bit more tweaking on the videocard, clocked 306MHz for the GPU and 667MHz for the memory.

Gave me 13893

[NOHTO]

21274 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6481860)

[LostBok]

NOHTO, looks like you might be the person to ask about this type of thing:

Lian-Li PC60 Aluminium case + Akasa Accoustic Padding
CWT 550W Active Fan Control, PFC, Dual fan.
ASUS A7V333 Motherboard
AMD Athlon XP 1900+ @ 1692Mhz (Palomino :()
CoolerMaster HHC-L61 Copper heat-pipe 7200rpm+ delta fan (normally auto-slowed to 4500rpm using ASUS Q-fan)
1x512Mb Corsair XMS PC3500 (434Mhz DDR) + heat spreader @352Mhz CAS2
Hercules Radeon9700PRO 128Mb DDR @ stock speeds

Not too interested in thrashing the video card yet, but how quick shoudl I be able to get that Palomino on air-cooling?

Should I experiemnt with higher voltages or am I completely wasting my time with clocking that CPU?

thanks,
LostBok

[NOHTO]

I haven't OC a 1900 in a long time. I do remember OC a 1600 just recently. It was a T-bred A and I got about a 400MHZ OC out of it without trying to hard. Start your voltage off at about 1.7 and raise your speed about 5mhz at a time and run prime 95 inbetween jumps to test for stability. When it becomes unstable increase your voltage, but keep an eye on your temps and don't let them get too high. I wouldn't run it over 55C maybe 60 max, but that is pushing it.

[ck42866]

16.000 and change.
xp2400@2342
9700pro

[americaonline]

Radeon 9500 Pro
Intel P4 2.2
512mb pc2100 Ram
WinXP Pro
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6481408

10776 3dmarks!! WooHooo.

[hippo]

13787
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6502259

:D

[NOHTO]

22558 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6502971)
22558 3DMarks finally got a decent score!!!!!!

[Grentarc]

Originally posted by NOHTO
22558 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6502971)
22558 3DMarks finally got a decent score!!!!!!

Yes, but it isnt with the AMD rig, and it has about 1.2GHz on the AMD rig doesnt it???;)
oh yeah... i like the 11MHz FSB:p

[Grentarc]

LostBok - About that Palo... i once had a Palo 1700+ and managed to get that to 1.7 GHz on air, but it was a AGOGA stepping, and didnt like anything higher than 1.7GHz at 1.9Vcore.. temps were ok, around the 45-50°C with a volcano 7+ on high. i then decided to lend that chip to my friend and his vapochill... got it to 1.75GHz (whoopdy doo! :rolleyes: ) and voltage didnt make any difference... so i sold that chip to another friend (on a GA-7VRXP .. i prefer my KT7A-RAID over that board) and bought a 1700+ T-Bred (A) for $5 more than i sold the other one. This T-bred hits 2.06GHz on 1.9Vcore with my V7+, and is around the 40-45°C at 100% load.
So what i say is try to hock the 1900+ off to a mate or someone else, and buy a nice cheap T-Bred and clock that one, as you get better results out of those chips....:t

[NOHTO]

You like that huh! It wasn't 11mhz, just reads the bus incorrectly.

[NOHTO]

22832 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6504799)

[x51out]

NOHTO, didn't you used to have a 9700 Pro??

[hippo]

Originally posted by NOHTO
22558 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6502971)
22558 3DMarks finally got a decent score!!!!!! Decent? YOU RULE!!:D :) Great score NOHTO! It must be one of the highest if not the highest 3dmark2001 score!!!!

[Grentarc]

NOHTO is only #17 outright... OPP from Xtreme is still #1 though.. witha score of 25214 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6493681) :t

[NOHTO]

Sure did. I upgraded to the 9800 about 2 weeks ago. $34.00 and my old card to good old Comp USA. I am going to volt mod it tonight and mount the MCW50-T with the upgraded 172W pelt on it. Right now I can run it at 480/391 with 50 deg F air temp inside the case, hope to get the gpu close to 600 as possible. Probably will only make 550-575.
Grentarc
Damm your on a guy today!! :D

[Ammok]

LOL, 17th in the whole world is not too bad. LOl. I'm sure you'll creep up a place or three with the volt mod.:) :D

[NOHTO]

Originally posted by Grentarc
NOHTO is only #17 outright... OPP from Xtreme is still #1 though.. witha score of 25214 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6493681) :t
Hey, I'm working on it. Just been busy with the little guy these days.http://home.earthlink.net/~nohto/_uimages/smilesmaller.JPG

[Grentarc]

NOHTO - you know you love me.. uh i mean... uh.. umm... forget i said that :x

Me.. i'm #3 in the 2Ghz category and #1 SDRAM.. so i guess NOHTO you have a bit tougher competition


just tell me that you have not been refering to "Clocking is good???" and using on your kid?? some may call it child abuse (although you wouldnt need to shave him would ya...:x )

[NOHTO]

Yeah, it's pretty rough when your teammates are some of the fastest overclockers in the world, but I am going to give them a run for their money I hope. Opp is using a Vapo on his GPU now instead of his pelt, so I might just have to mount my board upside down and go with dry ice or liquid nitrogen. That'll learn him!:r

[Grentarc]

I dont try to compete with those guys.. i have 3 reasons---
1: No spare money to buy the latest and greatest
2: dont have the latest.. infact i still have my PC133 system
3: not really the time these days to spend clocking and benching... so i just help where i can now...

goodluck in beating Opp and JC:t

[NOHTO]

Thanks, I'm going to need it. (That and some decent Ram sure would help) I have 4 sticks of Twinmos on the way Twinmos chips and Winbond chips, and I have a MSI board here I need to hook up to the Prom.

[hippo]

14816 :)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6510555

edit: update

[Ammok]

mates new sys

Asus Standard A7n8x
1024 pc2700
XP2700
MSI Ti42008x 128mb
WD 7200-8mbcache

scores 11,886 3d marks. No link soz.


(my g2mx is still 3062)
:)

[NOHTO]

UP UP AND AWAY 23193 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6544740)
The Kingston is still the best ram.


Abit IC7
P4 3.0c@4010mhz
radeon 9800pro@500/389
Prometeia and MCW50-T/172w pelt
TTGI 520 psu
2 256meg Kingston Hyper-X 3500 in dual channel

[NOHTO]

just tell me that you have not been refering to "Clocking is good???" and using on your kid?? some may call it child abuse (although you wouldnt need to shave him would ya... )

No, not yet. Just give me a little time.:x

[ck42866]

That score is disgusting.

I like it!:)

[Grentarc]

NOHTO - your score is almost double mine now.. with a CPU thats almost double the clock speed... what FSB you running on that beast?? effective over 1GHz????:t

[NOHTO]

I think it was around 4x267 @ 2-6-2-2

[Grentarc]

:x Thats like 1068MHz FSB (if you say it like the AMD's 333 or Intels 800MHz busses) thats a nice bit o' bandwidth you have there.....
i have been pricing me a new rig.. .costs well in excess of $3000 AU for it.. and that doesnt include cooling!!!!! just getting that sorta system from scratch... then i need the prommy or vapo.. preferably both.. prommy for CPU and vapo for GPU a la OPP...

bit expensive though... and i have other things i need first....:rolleyes: cant spend money on a machine just to be able to compete with you guys :t

[NOHTO]

That's whats killing me is the GPU cooler. I modified the gasket today and I am installing the MSI board in hopes of getting to the 24,000 mark:x :x

[Grentarc]

if you're gonna run pelt setup for the gpu, you may need 2 172watts (or i have seen some nice 300+ watt ones around) and use sub-zero "water" to cool them.... i once toyed with the idea of using a 300watter and a vapochill to get down to temp.. coz if you have a 70°C delta temp on the pelt, and you get the "hot" side down to say -15°C then cold side will be around the -80°C....
i wonder if it has been done yet??? wanna try it???

[NOHTO]

I am running a MCW50-T with a 172w pelt and coolant temps at approximately -10 C. I would think that would be enough, but obviously it might not be. I am game, but the only problem with running bigger pelts/waterblocks is that they ar a pain in the *** to mount and seal. What did you have in mind?

[Grentarc]

well... the 300watt ones i have seen are the same dimensions as an 80watt one... so the size isnt a problem... the only problem i have seen with 2 pelts say of 172watt flavour (one on top of the other) is that you need to use thermal adhesive to attach them together.. right? well.. that impedes heat transfer ability... so... if you could somehow use a 300watter... but then you need to get your coolant temps lower in order to deal with the higher temp pelt... we all know that coolant of -10°C will not make the hot side -10°... probably only around the 2-5°C range actually... (i know that straight water on an 80watt gets the cold side down to -5°C on a GF4 Ti4600.. this was measured on the back of the PCB with no load on the pelt. with load the PCB went up to 15°C) what i see is needed is phase change cooling on top of a pelt.. that sorta cooling gets a cpu down to -15°C or more, so a peltier would pose no problem for it... so phase change cool your high wattage pelt.. say with a 2nd hand (or old model) vapo, or a custom built system that would chill the pelt down enough. you normally have to wait for your prommy to cool down before switching on.. all you need is to get the gpu cooling rig to switch on with the prommy's power on.

The next problem is condensation.... i am sure you can manage in that department..
mounting??? thats the Big ITCH.. now.. we all know that vapo's have the mutha of all mounting mechanisms... what i have seen done is a modified ZIF socket is attached to a 3D card so that a heatsink that clips on can be mounted... all you need is the socket off an old Socket A board that is dead, cut out the required plastic, mount the the clip on the required packing to get the top of the GPU at the right level.. then clip on the heatsink.. or in this case the vapo head... you would probably need to bolt the socket into place using existing HSF mounting holes, but hey... only requires a lil drilling of the socket.
it would take a bit of work, but hey think that it may get your scores up a bit if heat is holding you back.. which it may be doing.... do you have an idea of the temp of your gpu? (the fact that supercooling also increases conductivity of metals would increase the stability, even if you cant get the clock higher)
:t

PS - i know this isnt about 3dmark2001, but hey.. its helping get another user's box a higher score......

[NOHTO]

Yeah the backside of the card is about 55 F right now and it has been running for about 1hour.

[MicroIT]

Specs:
Biostar M7NCD Pro nforce2 ultra 400
1 X 256 stick Corsair XMS 3200C2 @ 7,3,3,2.5
1 Maxtor 20 gig HD for Windows XP SP1
1 Maxtor 120 gig HD for games, etc.....
Gainward Geforce3 Ti 450 "Golden Sample" 64megs(not overlcocked for this test).
Athlon XP 2200+ "B" unlocked running 200*9.5
Hercules Muse 5.1 DVD
TDK 48/16/48
Sony 16x DVD

3DMARK 2001SE score was 9051

[NOHTO]

23425 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6554673)
Baby steps.........

[sniper1232]

I did all right for my system

win 98
1.5mhz 1700amd +
soyo k7ada v1.0 mother bord
896 pc2100 ddr ram
radeon 9700 pro
soundblaster 5.1
Western Digtal HD 20gig 7200 rpms
(and a very good cooling system about 8 fans)

[sniper1232]

I did all right for my system

win 98
1.5mhz 1700amd +
soyo k7ada v1.0 mother bord
896 pc2100 ddr ram
radeon 9700 pro
soundblaster 5.1
Western Digtal HD 20gig 7200 rpms
(and a very good cooling system about 8 fans)

i scored a 9986 on 3d mark 2001

[bobsters]

Originally posted by NOHTO
23425 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6554673)
Baby steps.........

NOHTO, what kinda score r u getting in 3dmark 03?

[NOHTO]

7074 (http://http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=844489)
is the only score that I hve run with 2003, but that was when I just started testing the board and my 9800 was on air cooling still, so I really don't know what my scores are. I just picked up a new 3.0C and a new MSI board so when I figure out which of the 2 3.0C is the best and I install the new board I will give it a run and let you know.
Nate

[NOHTO]

7303 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=853176)

[bobsters]

Originally posted by NOHTO
7303 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=853176)

sh*te, u've got one mean overclocked system dude! Is it actually stable, or does it crash after 1 run of the 3dmark test?

I tried overclocking my 3.06Ghz processor recently, and managed to get it to 3.455Ghz with no additional cooling. It wouldn't boot at anything higher, and it crashed halfway through 3dmark 2003, so I tried at 3.23Ghz. It was quite stable, but I didn't get any improvement on 3dmark 2003 scores though!

What utility should I use to overclock my Radeon 9700 Pro, and how far do u reckon I could go with no extra cooling systems in place (just the default fan that u get when u buy it)?

Thx.

[NOHTO]

Thanks.
It is fairly stable at those speeds, but I can't loop 3Dmark. Usually I OC it to the point where it will just finish the test.

Your processor speed doesn't really affect 2003 as much as it does 2001. Vid card, GPU speed especially on the Radeons, is the determining factor.

I use Rage 3D Tweak (http://www.rage3d.com/r3dtweak/) . You only have to install the Over clocking file and a skin. Every card differs, so it is almost impossible to say. If you get a good core I've seen cards go up to 400 on the GPU.

[Neo19]

3dmark 2001se score - 12640

xp2100 @ 2.16ghz (12 X 180) watercooled
gf4 ti 4200 @ 320/610
1gb mushkin pc3200 @ 2-2-2-6-1T timing

[darrenw1967]

13363

Asus A7N8X deluxe gold
2600+
2 x 256 mbs pc2700
Seagate 80 gb serial ata 7200 hdd
MSI TI 4800 se at 300/680
AO5 dvdr:D

[bobsters]

Originally posted by NOHTO
Thanks.
It is fairly stable at those speeds, but I can't loop 3Dmark. Usually I OC it to the point where it will just finish the test.

Your processor speed doesn't really affect 2003 as much as it does 2001. Vid card, GPU speed especially on the Radeons, is the determining factor.

I use Rage 3D Tweak (http://www.rage3d.com/r3dtweak/) . You only have to install the Over clocking file and a skin. Every card differs, so it is almost impossible to say. If you get a good core I've seen cards go up to 400 on the GPU.

Thanks, I'll try that. I was using Powerstrip to OC my GPU, and I'll see what Rage3D is like. If I set the core frequency too high, will it fry straight away without warning, or will I be given an opportunity to reboot/set it low again? I tried just a 3dMark 2003 test @ 340/317 and scored 4984 instead of the usual 4837 (3% increase). I'm not sure how much further I can take it without damage, so I'll wait to see what u say b4 continuing further!

[mobo57]

Newbe here,
new sys, first time running 3Dmark2001
Scored 9726

k7n2 delta mobo
1 stick 512 Corsair 3200c2 (2nd slot, crashs a lot in first and third!!)
AMD 3200 XP
enermax 330 watt ps
generic cdrw 48x
generic 16x dvd
5.1 sound sys
Maxtor Uata 133 120 gig hd
win2k pro sp3
Sharp L19HD LCD monitor
Asylum fx 5600 vid card (not ultra)
latest drivers bios etc
Bios setup for "high performance"
gonna try with my ti 4200 8x vid and tweak the bios to see what i can get.

[mobo57]

Back again,
3dmark on my old system = 9360
K7t266 mobo
1 gig mem pc 2100
ti 4200 vid
w2k pro sp3
generic 17 inch monitor
generic cd

default settings on bios.

why did i bother whith the new system??

[mobo57]

One more time:
put the ti 4200 into the 3200 system
3dmarks = 12296
NO TWEAKS YET.
anybody want to buy a slightly used fx 5600 vid card?

[mobo57]

OK
Put fx 5600 vid card in 2000 xp sytem
3Dmark = 7729!!!

Dear MSI:
I spend 250$ for your fx card.
Your 4200 at 69$ (today) out-performs it.

Bye bye MSI, Hello ATI?

[americaonline]

I can't run 3dmark2001se on my system because it says I have dx9 install, does anyone know how can i fix this?

[cwin]

Get the 3dmark2001SE 330 patch from futuremark.com

[Rugor]

Sees mobo57's problems with the FX5600.

Smiles and pats his Radeon 9500 Pro.

10134

Athlon XP 1800+
256MB PC2100 DDR
Gigabyte GA-7DX (AMD761 chipset)

Sorry I'm not a big fan of the newer Nvidia cards.

The Ti4200 still rocks though (would have been my choice if I couldn't get the 9500 Pro at the time).

[AugieDogie]

hooookay the "Barton Fink" Special was officially christened over the weekend

7039

Base vanilla install no optimization or overclocking............yet

MAINBOARD: A7N8X DELUXE
CPU:AMD ATHLON XP 2500 BARTON
MEMORY:PNY (Spectek) DDR333 2700 in RAMslots 1 & 3
VGA:FIC RADEON 9500PRO
HDD:SEAGATE ST 3120 Serial ATA Raid 0/1 Array

Base install no optimization or oerclocking............yet

[bblqj78]

AugieDogie

Thats a pretty low score with that setup.....are you sure that you have all ur drivers installed..!

My firend has the same setup...but with XP2200 thouroughbred. I installed drivers and ran benchmark as test and scored 10700. Yours should be higher than that..!

:cool:

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Score is low given my 1.33tbird with Gf4ti4200 can get around 9000marks

Make sure all your driver settings are set to default and that Anisortopy, Anit Aliasing and Vsync are disabled, before benchmarking

--Jakk:t

[cwin]

Also try defragging and restarting, and closing all open programs.
Try scanning for viruses and spyware, they can slow your pc -

ALWAYS disable realtime virus scanning and diskeeper's background service before running

Tip: If you didn't already know, MSCONFIG can be used to disable startup progs that you dont like.

[#1Prometheus]

On this machine (2.8 Canterwood @ 3508mhz) I was able to hit 18338. I actually got a higher score (18505) but failed to save it to my record on Future Mark so I cant count it. No point in promoting disbelief...lol

I was more impressed by my 3DMark03 scores which were 6181. But I used a higher fsb (255 X 4) to achieve it. Its hard to compare an air cooled peltier system to LN2 cooling so I would say my machine ranks #1 in its "true" category.

Word to the wise, dont disable HT on the Canterwood chips unless you want it to run hotter. Theres about a 10C temp jump when you do. Also, when using a air cooled peltier unit, dont go below ambient temps or condensation will form and cause corrosion on the coldplate. If anything, let it run slightly warmer until you put it under a load.

I use a Vantec Tornado 92mm on my Swiftech MCX4000 T and it requires a fan speed control to achive a balance that wont promote condensation. Your climate will dictate how much condensation you will encounter.

If you live in an arid climate, crank the fan and dont worry too much. In moist climates, keep it at or above ambient or you'll be taking it apart every week to clean and sand off corrosion.

My Benchmarks (http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectmanager)

[ch0wdy^]

Current Rig:

Athlon XP 2400+ @ 2700+ (166x13)
512mb DDR333 Samsung (2x256mb)
EPoX 8RDA+
Geforce 4 ti4200 128mb Visiontek (250/222)
Western Digital 80gb 7200rpm 8mb
Seagate 30gb 5400rpm
Windows XP Professional SP1

3dmark2001build330: 11,750

[more]

more tweaking.......

[CrazyCrusher]

3dMark03 version 330.

Specs

768 PC2700 DDR
P4 1.6
Ti4600
WD GIG 80 7200

Score 1901, my score was really bad with Version 320, so I got the patch for this so called cheating thing, then my score got way better.

[mobo57]

Ok did a little tweaking with this mother,
fsb cl = 210
fsb/dram 1:1
mem at 5,2,2,2
agp volt 1.6
cpu mult at 11

3dmark2001 se = 13525

[mobo57]

Forgot,
cpu is running at 2400 at these settings
got to be that 400 mhz fsb

[AugieDogie]

Howdy Folks,

Recapping the base system:

MAINBOARD: A7N8X DELUXE
CPU:AMD ATHLON XP 2500 BARTON
MEMORY:PNY (Spectek) DDR333 2700 in RAMslots 1 & 3
VGA:FIC RADEON 9500PRO
HDD:SEAGATE ST 3120 Serial ATA Raid 0/1 Array

and it has that fresh "burn-in" smell working.

Took JAKKs advices.........the initial Score is low because I hadn't figured out the Catalyst Drivers. When I switched from "Quality" to "Performance" Modes Increased from 7039 to 11,079

.........a tad bit better ya think.

1. Driver Version Information:

CATALYST Version 02.4
2D Version: 6.13.10.6218
Packaging Version: 7.80-021107a-006759c-ATI
Control Panel Version: 6.14.10.4000

2. Here is the Booby Newby question of the week:

How do you disable Anisortopy, Anit Aliasing and Vsync?


:t

[x51out]

There are Catalyst 3.4 drivers available. You should try to use those. Huge improvement.

[Rugor]

Got to the D3D control panel in your catalysts and set AA and AF to application preference. That will disable them unless specifically enabled in the app. In this case 3DMark.

Vsync has its own slider towards the bottom.

[AugieDogie]

1. cwin ---------NEW INSTALL SPYBOT & ADDAWARE RAN ON FRIDAY

2. Rugor /x51 out thanks for info

3. Results:

CATALYST Version 03.4
2D Version: 6.13.10.6343
Packaging Version: 7.88-030430M-008946CATI
Control Panel Version: 6.14.10.5006

System Configuration:

Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
DirectX Version 8.0
Mobo Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Mobo Model A7N8X2.0
AGP Rates (Current/Available) N/A / N/A
CPU Unknown 1838 MHz
FSB 166 MHz
Memory 512 MB

Graphics Chipset ATI RADEON 9700/9500 Series
Driver Name RADEON 9500 PRO / 9700 - Secondary
Driver Version 6.14.10.6343
Video Memory 128 MB
Program Version 3DMark2001 Original
Resolution 1024x768 32bit
Texture Format Compressed
FSAA Disabled
Z-Buffer Depth 24bit
Frame Buffer Double
Rendering Pipeline D3D Pure Hardware T&L

Detailed Test Results

3DMark Score 11725 3D marks
Game 1 Car Chase - Low Detail 153.9 FPS
Game 1 Car Chase - High Detail 59.8 FPS
Game 2 Dragothic - Low Detail 202.9 FPS
Game 2 Dragothic - High Detail 123.6 FPS
Game 3 Lobby - Low Detail 164.1 FPS
Game 3 Lobby - High Detail 74.6 FPS
Game 4 Nature 67.8 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 975.4 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 2152.7 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 light) 55.6 MTriangels/s
High Polygon Count (8 lights) 13.6 MTriangels/s
Environment Bump Mapping 126.1 FPS
DOT3 Bump Mapping 141.4 FPS
Vertex Shader 157.5 FPS
Pixel Shader 222.5 FPS
Advanced Pixel Shader N/A
Point Sprite 27.4 MSprites/s

4. JAKK reading up on your overclocking article so I may crank it higher later

[#1Prometheus]

*

[pandaz3]

Just got my replacement PSU and for 2001 SE I get 12,632, and 4101 in 2K3 3D

I am Clocking 1.862 on Cpu and 330/294 on vid card and Mem are set to "Turbo"

I am going to increase the multiplier one more (to 133 X 15) and put the juice up an increment on CPU and Mem. Like Arnold...I'll be back!

[Bigjakkstaffa]

AugieDogie, crankin ght eGPU and CPu will give you really good speed gains. Heck ive got a 64mb ti4200 gettign in excess of 12500marks :eek:

--Jakk:t

[pandaz3]

It didn't like 15 X 133 at first I had to step the CPU voltage to 1.65 V from 1.60 V and I put the memory to 2.7 V from 2.6 V

2001 SE 12,917 2003 3D 4142

[the xenon]

I am getting 9300 on my dell inspiron 8500 :)

thats the one with 2.5 GHz pent 4 and geforce4 4200 ;)

[ch0wdy^]

just a note... my previous system of Athlon XP 2400+ @ 2700+...

All settings the same but with the 2400+ @ 200x10 (2ghz) i get 12,000.... fsb sure does help.

[Chippewa]

ECS K7S5A-PRO fbs143
XP2200@1958
512DDR2700
Visiontek ti4200 64M 320/635

3dmark2001 score 13,128

Chippewa

[pandaz3]

I got a little more out of my 9500 Pro with abit more juice.
1.6V and now 335/300

2001 SE 13,201

NF7-S, 1700+ at 2000, 512 Crucial PC3200

[mobo57]

Ok here ya go
k7n2 ilsr delta
3200 xp
1 stick corsair 3200c2pt xms
ATI 9800 pro
Allied 450 watt psu
etc.
Auto settings in bios, stock settings on vid card;
3dmark01 se: 16,516
whatch ya think??

[mobo57]

btb
just put the 9800 in this weekend, upgraded from my g4 ti 4200 128 meg 8x

[x51out]

Download this bad boy instead... right HERE. (http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/index.html#Download)

[mobo57]

Ran 2001se 6 times:
fsb 200: 16516
16264

[mobo57]

oops
any way
200 fsb:
16516 & 16264
205 fsb:
17399 & 17150 & 17421
settings for the 9800 vid
= performance, first above the balanced setting.

btb: sorry Intel,
go AMD

[Roadhog]

Intel CPU 2.4b @3240mhz
FSB=180
ATI 9500Pro(Flashed to 9700Pro for O/C)
Video Card Gpu=382.50
Video Card Mem=310.50
Crucial PC2700 1 Stick
Cpu 1.700v
System Mem 2.90v
AGP 1.6v

3DMark2001SE Score=15,237

**No artifacts
**With everything stock Score=12,046
-RH-

[Chippewa]

NICE SCORE!!!!!

[Roadhog]

Same settings as above post, except:
FSB=181
3257.93mhz
Video 385.94gpu/312.88mem
15,311.30 3D Marks

**Starting to get artifacts in video(so this is as good as it gets for me).

[Roadhog]

15,311 not 15,311.30 lol

[dj4play]

2 pc's i just built in my house.

My bedroom:

P4 - 2.4c clocked to 3.36ghz
asus p4p800
280fsb. No voltage changes.
1 stick of 256mb corsair ddr3500 (yes upgrade needed i know)
80gb seagate barracuda serial ata
radeon 9500 non pro 64mb clock = 346, mem clock = 312 (also driver patched)

2001 score = just under 15k
2003 score = 4200ish

downstairs pc:

P4 - 2.4c clocked to 3.14ghz
fsb = 265
asus p4p800
2x256 xms3200ll corsair
80gb maxtor ide 7200/8mb
radeon 9700 non pro 128mb clocked to 390 clock, 320 mem. (also patched to 9700 pro)

2001 score = 16200
2003 score = 5200

i will post more exact scores and pics when i get round to doing them again.

[Dreamwalker]

P4 2.0 Ghz
256 Mb DDR233 ( don't laugh, I'm getting an upgrade soon)
GeForce 4 MX 440 (I know what your thinking)
250 Watt PS (no overclocking for me)


3dMark 2001: 5012


soon to be getting
450 Watt PS
FX5900
new case
1gb Corsair XMS
new MoBo (any suggestions?? intel)

already have the case, PS, now I just need to buy the expensive stuff :rolleyes:

[pandaz3]

http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/comparison.php

I would probably looks at Abit's IS-7 or IC-7. One is the 865PE chipset the other the 875 chipset

My P4 2.4B is on an intel board, and I am happy with it for my wife's computer, but I would like more...possibilities that Abit offer with their boards

I have an Abit NF7-S with a AMD 1700+ I love it!

[pandaz3]

http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8KNXP%20Ultra.htm

Gigabyte has some good things going for it too. I love the dual Bios

Let's say you are OC'ing and put the BIOS FSB to a figure your CPU or Memory can't handle...well it won't post! with most boards Abit included..you have to manually clear the CMOS...(I have to walk around my desk and a table to do mine) dependind on your computing area, that is sometimes a pain... Gigabytes will beep at you tell you you main BIOS is not functioning properly and ask you to back it up... you say yes naturally and soon you are clicking away with your last good settings... Pretty spiffy I think! I have used this feature on my old Giggy board.. very pleasant!

I bought Abit as Gigabyte did not have their N force 2 board in the stores yet and Abit was on its 4th revision of that Chipset

Both are good in their own right ..if my Abit had dual BIOS it would be absolutely perfect.

[pandaz3]

Just bumped up the Vid card some

2001SE 13,246

2K3 3D 4,248

[Dreamwalker]

Sorry, that above 3d mark was the wrong one.. I got ~3900, after messing around with riva tuner a little bit, I got it up to ~4200. bumped the MX440 to 279/358..might try for a little higher, since I'm getting almost new everything anyways.

EDIT: the above one was 800 x 600

[pandaz3]

I have a 9500 Pro and just got it a 345/305

2001SE 13267
03 3D 4258



Abit NF7-S 1700+ @2005 2x256 Crucial PC3200 ATI 9500 Pro Maxtor DX9 80 Gig HDD
CPU @ 1.675V
MEM @ 2.6V
AGP @ 1.6V

[Roadhog]

I stumbled across this site, and it has many, many links to every bench mark, utility and diagnostics that I have ever seen. For each tool, it has two links. One for downloading the item, and one for the site of which the item is from. For the few I downloaded, only the site link worked. BUT, I could then download the updated item from the site. This is a nice selection of programs, and I hope that some of you get some enjoyment out of it - link below- ---RH--

http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/english.html?/b_e.html

[Roadhog]

You may be able to bump the gpu up a little more on that 9500pro. The mem gets a little touchy after 310 or so.

[dj4play]

this is the best i get on my room pc for 2001...

http://www.minimised.com/3dmark2001-myroom.jpg

[Roadhog]

I got 15,311 on mine(15,237 w/o any artifacts). Your cpu is running faster then mine, so the difference lies in the video card. I kind of think that these 3dmarks are more of a measure of video cards themn over all system performance. When you get a chance, go to:
http://www.pcpitstop.com

Run their system tests(it does it online, or you can create an account and save results). Let me know what you get on that one.

My e-mail is rickster32901@yahoo.com

--RH--(Name is Rick)

[dajogejr]

2001 SE 13274

[dj4play]

im seriously bottlenecked with this one stick of puny 256mb ram dude
wait til i ge tthe other stick and double my bandwidth then we're talking :D i will have it all running at 1100+mhz fsb too :D

the graphics card i have sux i think tho :'(

[mobo57]

Just a little more tweaking
9800 Pro at "performance settings", no oc
3200 xp
k7n2 ilsr
fsb @ 205, all other bios auto settings at performance
with 2 sticks corsair 3200c2pt xms 512 meg each (not matched):
2001se: 17,618
with one stick: 17,854
with bios at 210: 18,310.

Been running seti command line for 2 days stable, no artifacts or crashes during games.

FYI for 3 days last week the airconditioning was out in my office, average temp was 90+ f. With three case fans and the stock cpu fan, was crashing and locking up every hour. Air has been back on last 5 days. Not one problem. Who says AMD's are not temp sensitive??

[dj4play]

update for my system:

http://www.minimised.com/3dmark2001-myroom.jpg

[Theneed4speed]

western digital HD 80 gigs
Ati 9800 pro 128
1 gig DDR gueel (sp?) dual channeled
AMD 2500+ (1.84 GHZ) (slk-800 heat sink) tornado fan
Asus A7N8X 400fsb (two intake and two exhaust fans)
lite on 52x24x52
view sonic P95f+ pro series
logitech speakers Z-560 series

3dmark03 score 5600
3dmark2001se 15800

default settings on the test, graphic card settings were all balenced.

[Theneed4speed]

2001 not that good, 15300

[dj4play]

UPDATE:!

I've found that with 2001, I can bump up my graphics core and memory a huge amount over 2003, and without artifacts, so this score should count right?

Bear in mind that these settings have to be lowered a fair bit to work in 2003.

P4-2.4c o/c 3.3ghz @ 275fsb
256mb Corsair xms3500 2-3-3-5 (upgrade this weekend i swear)
80gb barracuda serial ata hard drive
radeon 9500 64mb non-pro (software and bios patches)
graphics core = 372mhz
graphics mem = 333mhz

score = 16156

(with a little 9500!!!)

http://www.minimised.com/3dmark2001-myroom.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6742837

[$1500-P4 gamer]

"FYI for 3 days last week the airconditioning was out in my office, average temp was 90+ f. With three case fans and the stock cpu fan, was crashing and locking up every hour. Air has been back on last 5 days. Not one problem. Who says AMD's are not temp sensitive??"

I do thats who. Seriously, my cpu is only 32c idle and max of 37c when ambient is 80F! At 90F Im still running 37c idle and max temp full load of 42c! Lockups are at 65c or so. You are running atleast 30% hotter than me and I am AMD 2200+ one of hotter cpu's to start with. Ur problem isnt amd its the HSF your useing cant do its job very well. Try a vantec areroflow, or 900skl or anything with copper slug/copper BASE like AMD tells ya you should. Stock HSF is O.K. but not for 90f ambient situations. You need better cooling for Intel at that temp too. I know I had p4 1.5gig, they run hot too.
;)

[Slapshot]

A7N8X-X (For Now)
AMD 2500+ "Barton" 200x10.5 2100Mghz
512 Samsung 2x256 6 3 3 3
PNY GF4 Ti4200 128MB No OC'
Audigy Gamer
Aerocool Phantom HSF
Maxtor 60GB 7200Rpm HDD

3DMark2001SE 12222
3DMark2003 Ha! Whats the point??....

I had the CPU @ 200x11 with Vcore set to 1.7 But it wasnt stable at that speed I was getting 12714 3DMarks. Gonna bump the voltage when I get my deluxe board and switch back to my Thermaltake Volcano7+ and try again.

[Ammok]

new Radeon 9600 128mb
score 8035 no overclocking.

just about to plonk in a new cpu see what diffference it makes.

[juniormito]

I need help i know that you can help me

what card should I buy
VGA GAINWARD, Ultra/800 "GS"
ASUS AGP-V9900TD
ATI RADEON 9700
:confused:

[Slapshot]

Out of those choices I would get the Radeon 9700Pro. The 5800 didnt get real good reviews and it is loud as hell..



Slapshot

[fishybawb]

9635
Not bad for an FX5200 :)

[Timmac4]

Ok I have been working on my 3d2k1 score for the last 2 weeks. I upgraded my old XP2000+, GF3Ti200,768mb pc2100, and Abit AT7Max mobo that scored a max of 9000. I got a new MSI K7n2 Delta-L, Barton 2500+, Radeon 9500pro, and Simpletech pc2700 (had to it was $55 for 512mb I got 2). I am now starting to tweak it all out and oc it and so far am at 14,557 marks. My Barton is at 181x12 and my ram at 181 cas2.5-3-3-3. Is this any good? The orb at Future Mark doesn't distinguish between the 9500/9700 cards.

[dj4play]

it's pretty good but you could squeeze more out I think. I managed 16,157 on a 9500 non-pro with 64mb :D
try softmodding the card, and clocking as high as pos, then install the omega drivers (ati optimised ones).


http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6742837

[Timmac4]

Thanx I don't want to go too high too quick this card is brand new, and from experience they tend to kinda settle in. I have installed a new Bios for it and have run it at 330/315 using Rage 3d Tweaker, but haven't yet tried the Omega drivers, will have to dl them sometime soon. I think that I should be able to hit 15k with a little work. Also my cpu can still be increased, but I am still testing out this new ram so am not pushing too far too fast.

[ch0wdy^]

Yes, slow and steady would be a good idea, i think ;). It would be a poor choice to push your components too outlandishly far too quickly because it's so early that you don't necessarily know if the components are not defective by factory yet. Slow and steady is the safe way to OC, i think.

[Ammok]

new radeon 9600 now at 9728 with a little oc.

[Rugor]

Here's (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6764551) my latest score 10389 3DMarks on aggressive settings.

Not bad for a Radeon 9500 Pro on an 1800+ on 256MB and an old AMD761 motherboard.

[Mr Snuffle]

p4 2.8/800fsb
Radeon 9700 Pro
512 Meg ram
120 Gig hdd with 8 meg cache
ASUS P4P800 (or whatever it is)

No overclocking, just defaults

3D Mark 2001 SE: ~15500
3D Mark 2003: 5045

[ch0wdy^]

Athlon XP 2400+ @ 200x11.5 @ 1.75v
EPoX 8RDA+
2x256mb Samsung PC2700
Geforce4ti4200 128mb Visiontek @ 270/540
WD8000JB
Windows XP SP1

3Dmark2001: 13, 230

[NameLess]

I got 11360 marks

Asus P4P800
P4 2.4 533
256x2 DDR2700, 333 DUAL
MSI GeForce4 ti4800SE
Is it good for my PC ?

[bblqj78]

nameless....not a bad score

I would say you could be getting slighly higher...make sure everything is set for performance(AA & AF * Mipmap detail low). You could probably overclock just the graphics card and be looking to 13000 3Dmark points.

:cool:

[NameLess]

I went around all options but i didn't find it :(. Where do i set it ? can u tell me plz, i'm really new in all this this video cards options, my last video card was S3 16mb integrated.

[Ammok]

try here nameless for loads of graphic card type info and progs to overclock your card, also good source for drivers old and new.

www.guru3d.com

[bblqj78]

nameless...


right click on your desktop...and selct properties. Goto settings....then click advanced. This should bring up your graphics driver settings. What drivers are u using..? Go through all the options...somewhere will be Antialiasing...and Anisotropic filtering...and mipmap detail. Slide all those setting to low...or performance. Its easy...:)

Run again. Your score is still good...its just that with a GF4 Ti4200 I was getting nearly 13000 with card overclocked..and everything set for performance. I also have a p4 2.4B with not as good a board as yours..! Download yourself a copy of Rivatuner...which will allow you to overclock your graphics card and check out BigJakkStaffa's good article in the articles section on this website......

http://www.sysopt.com/articles/VCOGuide/index.html


you will be flying in no time...!:D

[Bigjakkstaffa]

:eek:

Someone quoted my work...*sniff* this is the greatest day of my life *sniff*

*collapses in tears*

...and i thought everyone had ignored it too :eek:

:D

--Jakk:t

[NameLess]

thanks guys for this info :) one more question what can i set my coreclock and memory clock at. will it be stable with 310/650 ? once more i have MSI geforce4 4800SE 128mb

[bblqj78]

nameless....

it basically depends on the graphics card.....i guess that u would be fine running at that....but you have to go up in stages and test every time for 5 minutes or so to find out. Do memory first until you see artifacts on the screen and then back down a bit. Then concentrate on the core speed......its takes a bit of time...but you will find a good balance.

:cool:

[ComPooTer]

3dmark01 build 330 score: 11378

ati radeon 9600 PRO 128mb
amd barton 2500+ (1.8)
asus a7n8x DX
512 DDR400 Kingston Valueram

[rzb932]

nameless, i just got my ti4800se today and it clocked to at least that. i run my gainward at 315/650 no artifacts. i haven't tried to test any higher settings. i run quincunx AA and 4xAF on all my games!! sweet card. haven't gotten to try VIVO yet thought. anxious to see how it does. anyway i did 3d mark 2001

XP 2000+
512 megs ddr333 running at 266
Gigabyte Ga7vax
Gainward Ti4800SE VIVO 128meg 315/650 core/memory
80 gig Western Digital special edition with 8meg cache
420 watt Enlight power supply and yada yada yada

10780
i have concluded from my comparison between the Radeon 8500 and this card that my cpu and ram are slowing me down ALOT!! the individual scores showed that tests that relied mostly on the grafix card were significantly higher like nature scene and fill rate but the lobby scene didn't increase that much. sux but i plan on getting an XP 2500 in about 2 weeks

[NameLess]

I finally got over 13200 marks on my Ti4800SE thanks to overclocking
Asus P4P800
P4 2.4 533 @ 2.9 640FBS
512DDR 2700 ram
MSI ti4800SE (310/650)

rzb932 thanks for info man :) i'm learning, reading infos about everything :)

[rzb932]

no problem nameless, man i need a new cpu. (sobs) i might be able to catch your 13000 with a new processor!!! hopefully i'll get a 2500 soon so i can at least get a better score. nice card though!!!

[XtReAmTwEaKist]

13041 the pic says all

[XtReAmTwEaKist]

oh yeah all done on 256mb DDR ram other 256 burned out but 512mb OCZ coming monday

[holoflux]

17890

P4c 3.0G (o/c 3.3G)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
Asus P4P800
1G Kingston RAM
Aqualia cooling
Blue lights x 2

It rocks.

[mobo57]

Not bad holo.
Is your memory matched? Mine is not.
I went from 17618 to 17854 by dropping 1 stick.

K7N2 Delta ILSR mobo
AMD 3200XP
ATI 9800 Pro
1 stick 512 Corsair XMS 3200C2PT
Aeroflow HSF
3 case fans
W2K sp4
FSB at 205 with auto settings all else. Rock solid now.
At 210 and a bit of tweaking the bios and the Vid card I have hit 18300+-, but did encounter occasional louck ups.
etc.
:D

[Darthmonkey]

Does anyone know of a web site that i could get a device to let me overclock my radeon 9700? I have found the ones for NVIDIA but i havent found any ATI ones.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

http://www.sysopt.com/articles/VCOGuide/index.html


Newer versions of Rivatuner will work with Ati cards

--Jakk:T

[Ammok]

www.guru3d.com got loads of ati stuff including oc tools.

[holoflux]

Originally posted by mobo57
Not bad holo.
Is your memory matched? Mine is not.
I went from 17618 to 17854 by dropping 1 stick.

K7N2 Delta ILSR mobo
AMD 3200XP
ATI 9800 Pro
1 stick 512 Corsair XMS 3200C2PT
Aeroflow HSF
3 case fans
W2K sp4
FSB at 205 with auto settings all else. Rock solid now.
At 210 and a bit of tweaking the bios and the Vid card I have hit 18300+-, but did encounter occasional louck ups.
etc.
:D

I have 2 x 512 identical sticks in slots 1 & 3 with copper heatsinks on both, so they're mayched in that sense - is that what you mean by 'matched'? I've not started oc'ing the 9800 yet as I'm waiting for a Zalman heatpipe to arrive. I used the heatpipe on a 9500 before and I thought its performance was reasonable and it has no moving parts so totally silent. Then hoepfully we'll start to see some figures.

[NameLess]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6822794 :eek: :eek: My latest scores.

[rzb932]

hey Nameless what's the default clock for your 4800. mines 275/550 which leads me to believe it has a Ti4400 core.(same speed) and whats your speed in that test?

[NameLess]

it's running at 310/650

[ak3883]

Had my system running for 3 weeks now, fully stable

ASUS A7N8X Dx Rev 2.0 C1005 BIOS
Athlon Barton 2500+
2 X 512MB Corsair XMS PC3200C2PT (2-3-3-6)
ATI Radeon 9500 PRO-Catalyst 3.5
WD 80.0GB 7200RPM(2MB)
Plexwriter 48/24/48
LD DVD ROM
Leadtek WinFast TV Tuner

Win XP PRO SP1

My score is 12080

Tried overclocking FSB to 185, temps jumped to around 55, runs 46-50 idle at stock, but I am using the retail HSF:( Tried 200 and it wouldn't even post, had to clear cmos and go back.

Does this sound about right?

[rzb932]

i won't say no because i dont know for sure but i get higher with a oc'ed ti4800 and a XP 2500+ that is running at about 2200+ speeds. my memory sux too so i think its low considering your system especially since your fsb is oc'ed and i suppose your card is too. i would think that system should get about 14000 easy. oh and NameLess i meant also what was the default speeds for the card. those speeds are about what i run at. 315/650.

[arsmitty15]

SCORE:~10396 (Forget exactly but somewhere in there.)


ATX Case with 350 Watt PSU
Soyo Dragon kt400 lite
Athlon Xp 2500+ Barton /w 512k L2 cache
256mb Corsair pc2700 2.5 Cas latency
Asus 9280 TD (Geforce 4 ti 4200 8X) 128mb
Onboard Cmedia Audio 4 channel
WD 80gb 7200 rpm hard drive
40/10/40 Samsung burner/w smartburn
16X Lite on dvd rom
Win XP Pro SP1
43.45 Detonator drivers

[iceblue]

out of boredom i finally got around to downloading 3dmark01 after going from 2000 to 03! :D

733 PIIIE
384MB PC714
64MB GeForce 4 MX 440 (4345)
(all stock settings)

-=3410=-

[BullNuts]

System Specs:
- P4 OC 3.50GHz 1GHz FSB HT (which is a overclocked 2.8GHz 800MHz FSB)
- 1GB PC4000 500MHz Geil
- Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB Overclocked 445/740MHz Memory Clock Speed with a special heatpipe cooling kit coated with GeIL Copper premium thermal compound in between to transfer all the heat generate by the VPU to the heatpipe and huge heatsinks
- Vantec Stealth VTS-520 520watt Triple Fan Control Black Aluminum
- 200GB Western Digital Ultra ATA 7200RPM 8MB Cache
- 4x Thmeraltake High Performance Cooling Fans
- CPU Cooler Swiftech MCX4000-T with 80mm Vantec Tornado Cooling
- Thermal Management Digital Doc5 LCD 8x Fan Monitor
- Mobo Abit IC7-G Intel 875P Chipset Serial RAID Dual Channel DDR

3D Mark 2001: 23927 which is good but I think I can get higher with a few tweaks, my goal is atleast 24k which I'm SOOO close.

Email: pichoda1@hotmail.com
AIM: Squall15Leonhart

[DIMfilm]

13684 radeon 9500pro

[NameLess]

Originally posted by BullNuts
System Specs:
- P4 OC 3.50GHz 1GHz FSB HT (which is a overclocked 2.8GHz 800MHz FSB)
- 1GB PC4000 500MHz Geil
- Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB Overclocked 445/740MHz Memory Clock Speed with a special heatpipe cooling kit coated with GeIL Copper premium thermal compound in between to transfer all the heat generate by the VPU to the heatpipe and huge heatsinks
- Vantec Stealth VTS-520 520watt Triple Fan Control Black Aluminum
- 200GB Western Digital Ultra ATA 7200RPM 8MB Cache
- 4x Thmeraltake High Performance Cooling Fans
- CPU Cooler Swiftech MCX4000-T with 80mm Vantec Tornado Cooling
- Thermal Management Digital Doc5 LCD 8x Fan Monitor
- Mobo Abit IC7-G Intel 875P Chipset Serial RAID Dual Channel DDR

3D Mark 2001: 23927 which is good but I think I can get higher with a few tweaks, my goal is atleast 24k which I'm SOOO close.

Email: pichoda1@hotmail.com
AIM: Squall15Leonhart

Try to unplug the monitor from video card when u do the test, it might give u 100 extra scores, also, did u do memory timing ?

[mobo57]

Hey Bullnuts,
I thought I had a kicka** system. Yours rocks. Did you b/m at the stock settings? I'am interested in the 9800 w/ the 256 meg. Got the 9800 w/128 and wonder if I'd get much more in real life by upgrading. Tried 3500 & 3700 memory sticks, and not much for the buck- returned them for a dvd-rw.

Gonna check out your cooling system, Iam running 3 case fans now and a Vantec aeroflow, looks like i could do better w/o water. Is your gpu cooler off the shelf or custom made?

AMD 3200 xp
MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR
2 sticks Corsair 3200c2pt 512 meg
9800 pro 128 meg
ALlied 450 psu
etc the rest o' the junk.

Best 3d mark 18,301.
:x

[BullNuts]

Heh thanks. I built it myself and I'm really enjoying it, I just finished building my friends comp for him...

2600+ AMD XP
3x 80GB Western Dig
1GB PC2700 DDR
ATI 9800 PRO
etc.. etc...

Benched at 17k after a few tweaks

If you need help on building your comp give me a shout
pichoda1@hotmail.com

[holoflux]

This may seem like a dumb question, but i'd not considered it before - is it possible to stick an extra 128M RAM into a 128M 9800 Pro, thus making it a 256M 9800 Pro? And Bullnuts - the heatpipe you talk about, is that a Zalman VPU heatpipe system or something else? - big scores all round.

[BullNuts]

Originally posted by holoflux
This may seem like a dumb question, but i'd not considered it before - is it possible to stick an extra 128M RAM into a 128M 9800 Pro, thus making it a 256M 9800 Pro? And Bullnuts - the heatpipe you talk about, is that a Zalman VPU heatpipe system or something else? - big scores all round.

heh, you cannot stick another stick of ram into a graphics card, it would be like saying you wanna have a 128 and another 128 mate and have a 256 baby.... basicly impossible. And yes it is a Zalman and it's Massive heh.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

is it possible to stick an extra 128M RAM into a 128M 9800 Pro, thus making it a 256M 9800 Pro?

In a word, NO

--Jakk:t

[mobo57]

Bullnuts and all:
Checked out the Zalman (31$ U.S. at Fry's) and some of the reviews. Big question is cooling the mem chips on the card. Is this an issue??? Seems the stock fan provides some draft to the chips where the Zalman does not (no sh*t).

The Zalman is massive, suprised you don't need a support bracket for it. Looked at the reviews on the 9800 w/ 256. Will stick w/ my 9800 w/ 128 for now.

Don't know if you are into games like UTII or need to load large files, but I have a WD raptor in my system... Makes a big difference loading. Don't get a chance to grab a cold one while waiting to load files for UT any more.

[holoflux]

Zalman have resently changed the design of their VPU heatpipe cooler and I just bought the new one having previously owned the older one. The new one is a different colour (metallic looking now instead of copper) and has additional supports linking the 2 radiators thus reducing stress on the assembly. The whole thing looks a little bulkier but is more substantial. The optional fan now attaches directly to the unit instead of having a seperate case mounted bracket. It is quite a weight when assembled and I'm going to be extra careful when moving the box around, but I think it's ok. There is enough space between the radiator and memory chips to place additional low profile heatsinks, but I agree that it's not much to work with. The fan runs on 12v and 5v at 2800rpm and 1400rpm and is silent at the lower speed. I don't know which version mobo57 was reviewing, but I think the new system is cool.

[mobo57]

Just benched at 18,239 3dmark01 se. Not the highest I've done, but everything running rock solid.

fsb at 412
mult at 11.5
9800 mem at 740, core left alone.

FYI, Zalman has a new cooler that includes an optional fan for the memory. Going to check it out at Fry's this weekend.

[Theneed4speed]

newest score, 17,939. anyone hitting 19k yet?

[Theneed4speed]

has anyone seen the new Golden Dragon series released by Geil? supposed to be as good as anything corsair has, or so i have heard.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Geil make excellent RAM and really do rival Corsair in performance and overclockability, however their cheaper line RAM has not got that good a reputation :(

--Jakk:t

[mobo57]

I think I've hit the wall with this system:
3Dmark01 se: 18,449.

K7N2 Delta ILSR
AMD 3200xp
1 gig Corsair xms 3200C2PT
ATI 9800 pro, with added fan cooling on chip and memory
W2K sp4
Aeroflow, four case fans,
rest o' the stuff

Maybe can squeez a few more points out with 3700 or 4000 memory, but not worth the cost. Gonna wait for a few weeks and pick up a 875+ mobo and a 2.8 or 3.0 Intel when the price comes down and try again.

[mobo57]

Sorry, heres the post:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6945359

[simon13]

Well..
Barton 2500+ with different OCs
A7N8x Dlx
PNY Ti 4200 -128Megs

I only hit 12700... @2255 Mhz
and 11910 @ 1838 Mhz

3DMARK is quiete insensible to the overclock (unlike SiSoft Sandra or CPU MARK)....


I guess it s my poor old Ti 4200 128M from PNY which is the source of this bad score isn't it ?

[morpheus kain]

Overclock your graphics card some and if you get a very healthy gain then it's probably your bottleneck. (actually I'm sure it's your bottleneck)

[simon13]

I overclocked my Ti 4200 with the following parameters
GPU = 290 (instead of 250)
RAM= 590 (instead of 500)

but my score dropped! ( I ve lost 100 points ) and most of all, defects appeared in the demos..

the problem is that I changed detonator drivers 3 times, directx, i loaded/unloaded lots of components and now I am facing a problematic situation.. (I was so confident in what I was doing).

Anyway, I backed-up a "reliable" config to rebuild something stable from the baseline.

please, anyone can tell me best revisions on directx and detonator drivers for best scoring-running ?

anyway.. I know there is no common point between ti4200 and ATI 9800....

thank you!

[cwin]

Your score is reasonable for your setup :t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Tahst nti bad for a ti4200, in fact sounds abiout right, bear in mind on that rig with a r9800 pro you'll probably still only hit 16-17,000 marks

--Jakk:t

[cwin]

Hes right you know :D
Just took a while trying to work out what he said :p :eek: :t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

...and i havent even started drinking yet today :x

--Jakk:t

[mobo57]

Those scores are in the range I used to get with my 3200 xp and my old TI 4200, 128 meg.

[morpheus kain]

*Pats jakk on the back* It'll be ok....... one day.... *hands jakk a blunt*

[Giblet Plus!]

Yay! 14k club

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6995989

Still running my XP2100 and ti4200 :D

[causticVapor]

Cool, GP, got an NF7. :D

Nice board. What vcore is your CPU running at? 2.5GHz at 1.85v is really awesome.

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by causticVapor
Cool, GP, got an NF7. :D

Nice board. What vcore is your CPU running at? 2.5GHz at 1.85v is really awesome.

I had to jack it up to 1.93 to get it stable. MBM 5 shows it as 1.87V. :D

[Theneed4speed]

I hate myself today, blew my ati 9800 pro up, didn't have the card pushed in all the way and some stuff got crossed up. but I ordered a Hercules 9800 pro, anywhere here have one? if so is it as good as people claim?

[Theneed4speed]

anywhere=anyone, my bad

[MrBurns]

My System:

GeForce4 Ti 4600 128MB, 8xAGP
AthlonXP 2700+
512MB PC2700
Epox 8rda+ (nForce2)
80GB Western Digital HDD w/ 8MB cache


My scores:

CPU@default (2x166=2166MHz): 13753
CPU@ 13.5x181=2443MHz: 14371



I recently ran 3DMark01SE again, but this time the score dropped 700 points. I dont really know why. see here:

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=147415

[Jordan C]

Hi guys.

I'm really new to over clocking graphics cards. I've started trying to over clock because of drastic slowdowns in Halo which I cant seem to resolve.

Anyway here's my scores

8371

Spec:
AMD XP 1700 (overclocked @ 9.5x195=1.85ghz)
512 DDR (Corsair PC3200)
Leadtek Geforce 4 FX5200 128mb
ABIT NF7-s v1.1

GPU 290
Mem 499

original GPU & MEM is 250 and 419.

Has anyone else had probs with HALO? I've followed all recommended microsoft fixes and turned off anti-aliasing, just wondered if anyone with similar spec has had any probs?

[Ammok]

ATi 9600 non pro using new cat7 got 10,299 up from 8,600 on cat6 drivers, no oc all stock.

[Ammok]

HI Jordan, missed your post first time, good score. Halo is known to have a few teething troubles, but post in the games section forum for better replies, welcome to sysopt, nutters paradise.:D :t

[MrBurns]

Originally posted by Ammok
ATi 9600 non pro using new cat7 got 10,299 up from 8,600 on cat6 drivers, no oc all stock.

Becuase the result was similar in 3DMark03, maybe ATI is cheating in 3DMark w/ the new catalyst driver. Did the performance in real games also increase?

[Magua]

I think the 3.7 driver is quite nice, I noticed a decent increase in my benchmarks, but hard to say in real games.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

The 3.8's are apparently gonna be the shiznit

--Jakk:t

[cwin]

Originally posted by Bigjakkstaffa
The 3.8's are apparently gonna be the shiznit
--Jakk:t Wooooo! Nice word! :D
Now if i knew what it meant;)

[Ammok]

MR Burns, sorry can't really tell yet if there is a performance difference in games, need a decent one to try out and then I will know.:)

Been on the final level of IGI 2 since summer, so may load it back up again and see if i can tell the difference.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Originally posted by Ammok


Been on the final level of IGI 2 since summer, so may load it back up again and see if i can tell the difference.

Your joking :eek:

Only took me 11 Hours to complete that game, admittedly i didnt do it in the 'stealthy' manner the game tries to coax one towards, in fact the last three levels were pretty much non-stop 'shoot and scoot'. For some reason ive not gone back to it, just wasnt as much fun as IGI 1 :(

--Jakk:t

[ComPooTer]

when r the 3.8 drivers coming out?

[Rugor]

Originally posted by ComPooTer
when r the 3.8 drivers coming out?

Wednesday, Oct 8th.

[Magua]

Ive heard good things about 3.8, but don't know when it will come out.

Shiznit: Catalyst 3.8

[Ammok]

Big Jakk, I have not played IGI 2 at all this summer, I left it at the final level when the sun came out. I might load it back up and finish it to see if I can spot an improvement over the 3.6 cats.

Eleven hours is impressive though, about thirty minutes a level, and for a sneak stealth game that is very good.

[fizur2002]

i got 16167 marks with the new 3.8cats and i am using a 9800pro.

[Benssax]

XP2600 Barton @ 2.35ghz
TI4200 @ 315/560
Shuttle AN35N-Ultra

14,361 :p

Pretty good with that memory speed

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7125983

[simon13]

I played Aquamark 3 recently and....

that 's a distaster.

I've fallen down to 10 frame/seconds.....


Ti4200 is now part of history.

[ComPooTer]

new 3dmark 01 scores

ati radeon 9600 pro (507.60/340.20)
512 ddr400 Crucial (7-2-2-2.5)
120GB 7200 RPM 8mb Cache Maxtor
Amd barton 2500+ 200x11@3200

3dmark01: 13634

[pandaz3]

Originally posted by simon13
I played Aquamark 3 recently and....

that 's a distaster.

I've fallen down to 10 frame/seconds.....


Ti4200 is now part of history.

What Do you intend to replace it with?

[fizur2002]

Originally posted by ComPooTer
new 3dmark 01 scores

ati radeon 9600 pro (507.60/340.20)
512 ddr400 Crucial (7-2-2-2.5)
120GB 7200 RPM 8mb Cache Maxtor
Amd barton 2500+ 200x11@3200

3dmark01: 13634

try lowering your mem timings down a bit more, try making it 5/2/2/2.0 that should give you plenty more bandwidth and speed that you could get out of it.

[ComPooTer]

its crucial ddr400 and its rated for 8-3-3-3.0 :eek: im already pushin it

[Benssax]

Originally posted by ComPooTer
its crucial ddr400 and its rated for 8-3-3-3.0 :eek: im already pushin it

hmm have you tried lowing them though. I'm running a 213 bus and running 4-3-3-2.5 :t and a new score of 14405

[pandaz3]

Originally posted by ComPooTer
its crucial ddr400 and its rated for 8-3-3-3.0 :eek: im already pushin it
I have my Crucial PC 3200 at 5-2-2-2

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Yup the SPD settings for Crucial seem to err a bit too much on the safe side, you shoudl be abel to tighten em up quite a bit at stock and with a notch more VDIMM voltage they should be abel to run at really tight timings

--Jakk:t

[Ammok]

You can get it to at least 6-3-3-2.5 without trying, come Poot give it a go.

[fizur2002]

Yeah pooter, you did a hell of a good job on your vid card, why not try and do the memory now.

[XtReAmTwEaKist]

15K here

Barton 11.5x205
KT6 Delta LSR
160gb SATA HD
768Mb DDR 433
Radeon 9500 modded to a 9700 pro + (320/290)?
SB Audigy

the works

[ComPooTer]

ok i bumped the DDR voltage up 1 notch and running 5-2-2-2.5 stable!!!! :)

[pandaz3]

I was a little leary of buying crucial due to the "Stock" timings. I am Happy with it though

[ComPooTer]

you can get up to 5-2-2-2 pandaz3?


whats your VDIMM voltage set at?

[pandaz3]

2.7 I think

[pandaz3]

I am doing well with the memory, maybe I have a couple of better sticks. I have a ATI 9500 Pro (That I really like) but it won't OC as much as a lot of others...not all memory sticks will be equal either.

[ComPooTer]

3dmark01 : 17183

Ati radeon 9800 PRO (stock)
amd 2500+ 200x11@3200
asus a7n8x deluxe
512 crucial ddr400 (5-2-2-2.5)
120 gb 7200 rpm maxtor 8mb cache

[Ammok]

nice score pooter.:) :t

[fizur2002]

Just got my new score on 3dmark01

18534

[cwin]

Originally posted by fizur2002
Just got my new score on 3dmark01

18534 woo... What are your specs?

[cwin]

im still tryin to o/c mine...

[fizur2002]

AMD XP 2500+ @ 3200+ (2.315Ghz)
Corsair PC3200 768mb(Dual Channel)
MSI K7N2 Delta L
Two 40 GB Seagate Baracuda V
One 80 GB WD Special Edition
Sapphire Radeon 9800pro (425/368)
350watt Enermax PSU
Vantec Aeroflow HSF

[ComPooTer]

what HSF u using for the 9800 pro? i was thinkin of getting a iceberg

and then a copper iceberg for my sb too

[fizur2002]

Your going to scream when you see what i have mounted on the VPU, its a little much, but it keeps it nice and frosty. Its not designed for video cards, but thermal epoxy is good stuff.


HERE (http://www.3dcool.com/?module=product&sku=CPUPhantom)

[mobo57]

Fizur;
I mounted my stock hsf that came with my 3200xp (after i installed my aeroflow) on my 9800 pro. It fit perfectly on the stock heatsink. Used to be the heatsink would get REAL hot. Now nice and cool all d time. And it cost me nothing!!
Just got to get some heatsinks for the memory and OC this mother!!:r

[ComPooTer]

ehhh all i can say is.......wow lol

what happens if i epoxied a 80MM fan onto the stock 9800 HSF just for fun, would that be cool? muhaha i wonder if it would work.... :x


jk

[Baddog]

Please don't laught at my 7200 card:(


System Configuration
Operating System Microsoft Windows 2000

DirectX Version 8.1


Mobo Manufacturer http://www.abit.com.tw/

Mobo Model AT7-MAX2(VIA KT400-8235)


AGP Rates (Current/Available) 4x / 1x 2x 4x


CPU AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2400@ 2190 MHz

FSB 137 MHz 16

Bus Speed 273.8

Memory 512 MB
voltage 1.75
2 - 3 -3- 6

Temps (stock cooling)
sys 46c
cpu s 45c
cpu core 63c


Graphics Chipset ATI RADEON 7200 Series

Driver Name RADEON 7200 SERIES

Driver Version 6.14.10.6387

Video Memory 64 MB



Program Version 3DMark2001 SE

Resolution 1024x768 32bit

Texture Format Compressed

FSAA Disabled

Z-Buffer Depth 24bit

Frame Buffer Double

Rendering Pipeline D3D Hardware T&L

Detailed Test Results
3DMark Score 4131 3D marks

Game 1 Car Chase - Low Detail 59.0 FPS

Game 1 Car Chase - High Detail 35.0 FPS

Game 2 Dragothic - Low Detail 64.8 FPS

Game 2 Dragothic - High Detail 39.7 FPS

Game 3 Lobby - Low Detail 67.1 FPS

Game 3 Lobby - High Detail 36.4 FPS

Game 4 Nature N/A

[pandaz3]

Won't lagh at your card as I have a 7000 in one but you do have a reasonable score for the card!

[Mj_Pimp]

15,994., On My Ti4200

P4C 3ghz
P4P800 Deluxe
512DDR400
80GB HDD
550W Qtec

Upgraded to a 9600 Pro 256MB, OC'ed it @ 700mhz and got 18,536

[pandaz3]

That's super! You probably see a bigger difference in 2003 3D.

[ComPooTer]

Mj_pimp your scores is primarily from your 3.0 processor, try 3dmark03 and lets see your score :)

[Mj_Pimp]

3957 in 3dmark 03 and my cpu is actually OC'ed from 2.4 :p

512MB DDR400 Kingston HyperX holds out with the slightly raised FSB

[MrBurns]

Originally posted by Mj_Pimp
15,994., On My Ti4200

P4C 3ghz
P4P800 Deluxe
512DDR400
80GB HDD
550W Qtec

Upgraded to a 9600 Pro 256MB, OC'ed it @ 700mhz and got 18,536

This doesnt sound like you oced your CPU. You should have written something like

P4 2.4C @ 3.0GHz

I am surprised, that DDR400 mempory can run @ 250MHz. This is a 50MHz overclock. What are your timings @ 250MHz? something like 3-5-5-10?

[Bigjakkstaffa]

The FSB is probably running Asynchronous to the FSB (ie less than 250Mhz), this gives a performance decrese for AMD's, but P4's being the bandwith hungry monsters that they are, works to their benefit runnign the FSB as high as possible

--Jakk:t

[fizur2002]

It does not sound like DDR400, it sounds to me like its of a higher stock timing, say perhaps PC4000, that sounds about right to me, seeing how it is stock 250 or at its double data rate of 500.