POST YOUR 3DMARK2001 SCORES!!!!

[blankmange]

18715 - insane...

Only 14260 here, but also only air-cooled.

Athlon XP2400+
Gigabyte Ga-7VAXP rev 1.1
1 Gb DDR 333
Crucial Radeon 9700 Pro

[NOHTO]

Hopefully, if I get a lucky car and Nature run 19,000 shouldn't be too far off!!!

[Sweeper]

:cool:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5433868

[causticVapor]

Sweeper running a 400MHz FSB P4? :eek: :p

[Sweeper]

Unfortunatly ... Santa didn't bring me a 533FSB .... :rolleyes:

[causticVapor]

At least he didn't get you a willy celeron... er.. I meant to say.. coal... :D

[morpheus kain]

I REALLLLLLLY wanna see NOHTO get to 20,000. We're all pulling for you man!

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by causticVapor
Sweeper running a 400MHz FSB P4? :eek: :p

all the better to overclock you with, my darling. . .

(no, I'm not that way, it's a fairy tale quote) :p

[Giblet Plus!]

did I just say fairy?

whoops

[morpheus kain]

HE CAME OUT OF THE CLOSET!!! Hehe JP man!

[Giblet Plus!]

[i]Hehe JP man! [/B]

Better watch out for that Jiblet Plus! dude. :p

[Grentarc]

I have 2 new scores for you all
Full test, default settings - 11,289 3DMarks (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5431142)
Game tests only - 11,335 3DMarks (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5438565)

FSB on the higher score one is 154 MHz.. all air cooled
GF4 @ 315/572 MHz
[EDIT:] I have broken the 11K barrier... and i didnt think i could do it!

[NOHTO]

Originally posted by morpheus kain
I REALLLLLLLY wanna see NOHTO get to 20,000. We're all pulling for you man!

Well I appreciate that. I have to send my MCW50-T back to swiftech due to leakage, and I am going to change the 80w pelt to a 172w pelt when they send it back. And then I am going to throw the old multi-turn pots on that over priced video device and either fry it or brake 20,000.

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!


all the better to overclock you with, my darling. . .

(no, I'm not that way, it's a fairy tale quote) :p

But what about the sucky sucky no OC peeps.. no worky.....



*Ignores, GP's second line, runs from him as fast as he can* :eek:

























:D

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by NOHTO


Well I appreciate that. I have to send my MCW50-T back to swiftech due to leakage, and I am going to change the 80w pelt to a 172w pelt when they send it back. And then I am going to throw the old multi-turn pots on that over priced video device and either fry it or brake 20,000.

NOHTO, It'll be an interesting movie, watching your R300 fly into a million pieces. :p

[morpheus kain]

Your definitely welcome NOHTO, and Give that Radeon HELL !!!

[Grentarc]

11,513 3DMarks (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5447971)

KT133a chipset
165MHz FSB
All air ;)

- had to remove my 256mb DIMM and just keep the 512mb (7ns), although the 256 mb one is rated at 6ns.. so it should be PC-166... but it is CL3 @ 133, while the 512mb is CL2 @ 133... meanwhile i kept all the ram at its tightest settings........:t :D
/me is veeerrrry happy now

[causticVapor]

That's awesome. You know what the scary thing is? I've been able to post a crappy DFI board all the way up to 166FSB (BIOS doesn't have any higher numbers :p ) with CL3 PC133 mem! :x

Of course, getting into windows is another thing, no voltage options... :rolleyes: and now with the stupd savage2k card it'll go no higher than 155 :(

[Grentarc]

just topped that score by another 99 points.
11,612 3DMarks (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5459019)
used the latest VIA Hyperion drivers.... bit faster...
CV: I have had this board post on a 173MHz FSB... but HDD corruption held me back. Highest I can get into windows is 166FSB, but 3DMark isnt stable... but i am working on that!:D :x
[EDIT: fixed typo's :rolleyes: ]

[Grentarc]

I think it may be time to make this thread a sticky, so people will be encouraged to post in here ratehr than posting another "Is this a good score" thread.
how bout it mods?
;) :)

[causticVapor]

Sounds good to me. There should be stickys for every major benchmark app like 3dmark, sysmark, pcmark, sandra, zd winbench, etc.

But under one circumstance: All thread-crapping-attempt posts will be deleted. :t


BTW Grentarc do you know about any vmods for the DFI Ca-63 SC? I'd really like to push that PIII up to 913 (@ 166FSB) and the mem to really low timings. I'm all jumpy after the successful round on the 8-kHA+ with a 25-watt iron :D :p

[Grentarc]

Just what i was thinking.

Just discovered.. #10 1901 MHz CPU w/ GF4 Ti4200 on the ORB.... and the 9 above me have DDR....:D :D

CV: do you know which one is the voltage regulator chip? if so, get the numbers off it and PM them to me, i will get the white papers for the chip and work out what resistance the multi turn pots should be.

[causticVapor]

Grentarc you have PM :t

[Shinichiro Ota]

I would like to get an nForce 2 motherboard, but I would like your opinions first. Should I buy one from EPoX, ASUS, or ABIT? Your suggestions would be appreciated.

[morpheus kain]

Shinichro make a new thread in the motherboard forum and we will all be more than happy to help you.

[Grentarc]

11,650 3DMarks - Full test (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5470823)

166 FSB... #1 SDRAM/AMD/Ti4200 on the ORB
#7 1.914GHz / Ti4200
i am pleased.:x :D :t

[morpheus kain]

Good work Grenatarc!

[causticVapor]

Eh good work there Grentarc! SDRAM power hehe. :p

You might be able to push 175FSB if you laxen the timings. I've been able to do it on another board... you can try as well... 1500 MB/s in sandra :eek:

A hit unless the BIOS only allows 166 FSB :p

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Nah - i think its a kt7 he's running which goes to 155 and then allows you tyo go up in 1mhz increments another 28FSb or sumink

--Jakk:t

[Giblet Plus!]

Beat you both with my palimino, ti4200 and winME!

:p

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5480282

12,034

The new 4 in 1s gave me 300 pts :)

[Giblet Plus!]

I was mainly referring to CV - anything over 11k with sdram is quite an accomplishment, grentarc! :)

I'm tempted to drop in my kt133 and let it rip, but I don't have enough time atm. :(

[Beeblequix]

hey Grentarc,

Now you're breathing down my neck. I'm only --->6<---points ahead of you; mine are stocks speeds. You're doin' real well.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5470823

ß

[morpheus kain]

See if you can give grentarc a run for his money giblet!

[Giblet Plus!]

nah, it's not fair, I have ddr and he's stuck on sdram.

anyways, I beat him! 12k 3dmarks! w00t! :D

[Giblet Plus!]

Oh, you were refering to my kt133 board. I'm a little low on time, and the sdram I have in there is barely stable @ pc100, let alone pc166 :(

[Beeblequix]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5488697

broke 12k. :)

New mildly oc'ed score: 12019
FSB: 138
GPU: 675
VMEM: 311

runs stably, and even cooler than my olde Palomino. The board is running @ 82.4F or 28.0C, and CPU running cooly @ 44.0C or 111.2F. I actually think that's about what my PIII667eb ran at, maybe a tad less. More to come. :)

ß

[Giblet Plus!]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5480282

Gotcha beat by 15 marks, and I have a mere ti4200 instead of a ti4600! :p

All of that on winME! :eek:

[gazzrawly]

ok dudes...my setup....

AMD Athlon 2100XP
ECS K7S5A MOBO
256MB SD 133 RAM
Geforce 3 Ti 500

3D mark 2001 SE = 6969

[morpheus kain]

Well if my mom will ever get around to letting me order my new setup I'll see what my overclocked GF2 can do!

[causticVapor]

Old drivers and a card that now won't go past 275 core. Oh well. Got the CPU up to 1.97GHz.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5493100

[Giblet Plus!]

I feel sorry for you, CV. A ti4200 that only OCs 25mhz on the core. Mine makes it to 310 mhz. :)

[D@VE]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5491767

[morpheus kain]

Nice work dave!

[Beeblequix]

well Giblet, couldn't just *let* you beat me by 15.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5489137

12194

crashed over 140fsb. all air cooling.

ß

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
I feel sorry for you, CV. A ti4200 that only OCs 25mhz on the core. Mine makes it to 310 mhz. :)

Yeah mine used to make it to 310ish on water, but, I'm out of AS3 and I don't think there's enough to make contact with the core (heavily convex) :(

And I still need to get those 42.01 drivers. I have 35's now -- the app HDD partition wiped away a month ago. (Accidentally) But I don't feel like sitting 4 hours to download something at 2KB/s. :rolleyes:

[Giblet Plus!]

ASIII is overrated anyways. Whip out the sanding paper and flatten that core, then put some cheap thermal paste on there. :)

[causticVapor]

I'll get around to it... someday...

[Giblet Plus!]

cough . . SLACKER! . . . :p

[morpheus kain]

You lucky bastages shouldn't complain my GF2 isn't gonna break 10K anytime soon!

[Giblet Plus!]

The slacker comment was directed towards CV.

I'll probably upgrade again next summer, which means you can have my kt333, xp2000 and ti4200 for cheap. :)

[morpheus kain]

Sounds very nice Giblet thanks! Yeah I know that comment was at CV and I found it quite humorous.:D I was just saying it's kind of funny looking at my GF2 and then you guys are talking about being disappointed with your overclocks on your GF4's.:rolleyes:

[NOHTO]

Squeezed a little more out of the stock vid card 18888 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5497840) . I just got my new N-force NF-7 board. I need to solder a couple of pots on it and see what I can do with it. Still haven't fixed my video card cooler yet, so I won't be able to max out my bench, but I won't have the problem of the card holding my FSB down.

[Giblet Plus!]

A nforce 2 should be good for a few extra 3dmarks over your kt400. Can't wait to see your results! :)

[NOHTO]

Actually I am/was using the KD7-E for the last couple of benches. It's the KT333 chipset. My KD7-Raid board was acting up, so I boxed it up to RMA. I'm anxious to see what it can do also.

[morpheus kain]

Nice work Nohto. I think soon THIS (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5469259) will be you!

[NOHTO]

Yeah I know Opp he's one of my teammates. He has a lucky processor that will 3-DMark bench at 2950 Mhz. Mine will do around 2860 on a unlocked bus and then my Radeon shuts it down because I can't get it over 190 FSB and the KD7-E doesn't have a 14.5 multiplier. I picked up another 2700+ yesterday to see if I could get a higher clock, but it is about the same if not a little bit lower. I'll have to wait until they get some more in and see if I can find a "LUCKY" one. I hope to get into the 20,000 range, but a good video clock is imperative for a good score.

[morpheus kain]

Maybe you just "swap" processors for a couple benches eh?

[pandaz3]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5500006

My new 3D Mark with my new XP 2100+ is 7165
It had been 6445 with a 1400 T-Bird

[causticVapor]

Way to go NOHTO! You seem to have a lot more money than me... but once I lap my Ti4200 core and vmod it I'll be certain to hit 13.5k! :D

"but a good video clock is imperative for a good score."

Gotta love that 3dmark.... 25MHz can mean a difference of 3000 points for me... :rolleyes:




And GP, I bet once your liquid cooling system is in you'll be breathing on my neck, or maybe not :p It'll be an intense battle between the two of us, I'm certain :r :r

[Grentarc]

OK... after running the bench a few days ago, on a 12x 155MHz fsb, i hit 11,646 3DMarks....
i guess that when i next bench it on the 166 FSB i will get higher still.

I'm not happy with my Ti4200... figured out why my ram is limited to 570MHz - the heat sink/spreader on the back of the card (Leadtek) doesnt actually touch the top two chips properly, not giving proper contact. once i fix this, i should be able to go a lil' bit higher on my mem speeds aswell.:rolleyes:

Happy benching!

[causticVapor]

Nothing changed. 275/300. Even lowered the CPU clock speed. Just installed the latest drivers... wala! :D 12059.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5500479

ED - w00t w00t! GP! I have you beat by 25 3dmarks with a much lower clocked 4200 and air! :p

Just shows how much 3dmark likes memory bandwidth.. you really need to raise your FSB , man. I mean, my board doesn't even have dividers for 333FSB, yours does... the MSI KT3 ultra2 I take it? Hint: With CL2.5 PC2100, you need to raise the voltage to 3.0 and increase DCLK0 and 1 from AUTO to 0.5 or 1.0, whatever gives you stability. It does give you more bandwidth than 266MHz with tight timings. Lower burst length from 8 to 4, and if necessary elevate RAS precharge and RAS-to-CMD.

[causticVapor]

12215

Managed a bit more out of it.

CPU now up to 1.95, card up to 285/621.


http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5500622

ED - vram speed corrected.

[Grentarc]

so the 42.10 is faster eh?.... may have t have a go with them myself... see if i can get closer to 12K...

[causticVapor]

12370

After endless re-tuning and configuration, with 3dmark crashing to the desktop, I was finally able to reach a stable combination: 169FSB, with the mem @ 338 and 3.1v. Although the CPU is clocked lower (1.94), elevating the multiplier by 0.5 would push it above 1.97, the highest speed at which it is stable at. The card is clocked with all bus settings (AGP4x, fast writes, 1WS R/W) and 285/621.

http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6&projectId=5500784


Yes, GRentarc, apparently the new drivers are faster... even though I don't have DX9 installed yet. :p

At least they're 2000 points faster than the old 35.x's I had installed before :p






ED BTW --- what voltage are you putting into your DIMMs? (If your mobo has the options) I hear they're rated for PC166, so who knows, perhaps if you pump them up you could go to 170 or even 175 with a few timings relaxed here and there... hell the GF4 can take 85MHz bus speeds and more with ease! :D :r

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by causticVapor

And GP, I bet once your liquid cooling system is in you'll be breathing on my neck, or maybe not :p It'll be an intense battle between the two of us, I'm certain :r :r

I think upgrading myself to win2k will probably help more. According to beeblequix, there's a 400 point difference betweeen 2k/xp and win9x.

My ram is holding me back from getting over 144/145 ish on the fsb with advanced timings.

[The_Shafer]

3dmark score = 9985

The_Shafer :D

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!


I think upgrading myself to win2k will probably help more. According to beeblequix, there's a 400 point difference betweeen 2k/xp and win9x.

My ram is holding me back from getting over 144/145 ish on the fsb with advanced timings.


Again, as I said, raise DCLK0 and DCLK1 to 1.0 in the BIOS and you should be able to hit 166 FSB with an unlocked CPU.

And why are you using WinME? :rolleyes: ... You're right about native 32-bit OSes... and especially XP.. can utilize SSE itself :D

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by causticVapor

Again, as I said, raise DCLK0 and DCLK1 to 1.0 in the BIOS and you should be able to hit 166 FSB with an unlocked CPU.


:confused:

I use winME because I like the challenge. I only get BSODs when I push OCs too hard or install crappy hardware. :)

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by causticVapor

Just shows how much 3dmark likes memory bandwidth.. you really need to raise your FSB , man. I mean, my board doesn't even have dividers for 333FSB, yours does... the MSI KT3 ultra2 I take it?

No 1/5 divider on my board. I have the kt3 ultra "1" - the neglected early release model. I don't feel good running my pci freq over 40 mhz. I don't think my ti4200 likes it. :(

[causticVapor]

That is unfortunate that you can only run your RAM at 166 asynch w/o raising your other busses. 0% performance gain. :rolleyes: I can tell you however, Ive running the 8-KHA+ at 175 FSB with no Ti 4200 problems, Mem synch. Mem asynch at up to 200FSB. That gives the AGP bus a speed of 100MHz (400)! :x

Being a Ti 4200, your card probably isn't holding you back... Heck, it can out-OC my verto with AS3. Why didn't you just get an EPoX in the first place? Costs less than an MSI and always out-OCs it. :p :p

[Giblet Plus!]

I didn't get epox because I was less educated in the beginning of 2002 than I am now. :p

Once I unlock my XP2000 I'll give 166 fsb a try. :D

Running asynch doesn't help anything, and my pc2100 has no chance of making it to 200 mhz.

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!


:confused:

I use winME because I like the challenge. I only get BSODs when I push OCs too hard or install crappy hardware. :)

What? They're not there? :mad: Should be present in the Advanced chipset features section under memory... I'm sure you know how to go there :p ... the bottom methinks....

Or just try seeing what settings have options of "Auto," "0.5," "1.0," or "1.5." It affects the timing offset in your banks. You could also try adjusting the impedance (manually configuring drive strengths) to straighten signal although I'd proceed with caution there.

And as for WinMe, *cough* ll4m4... :D

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
I didn't get epox because I was less educated in the beginning of 2002 than I am now. :p

It's OK man! :) Same here. I thought the 8-KHA+ was the best board when the 8-K3A+ was already out. (March) Also, I got CL2.5 PC2100 when CL2.5 PC2700 was existent. Had I known, you would've seen me with the KT333, 1/5 divider, and DDR333 memory. :(

But that doesn't mean my mobo isn't a kicker.. not by far :D If the chipset just had dividers for 1/6, I'm pretty sure the mobo's circuit layout could handle 200MHz FSB just fine. Waiting on the corsair :rolleyes: Two weeks now :rolleyes:



Running asynch doesn't help anything, and my pc2100 has no chance of making it to 200 mhz.


Running Asynch @ 200 does elevate your cardbusses to new peaks of Dante... ahem... speeds... :p

[Giblet Plus!]

Actually running asynch does nothing for the pci/agp bus, it only changes the mem bus. Hence the work asynchronous. :p

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
Actually running asynch does nothing for the pci/agp bus, it only changes the mem bus. Hence the work asynchronous. :p

Nope. It subtracts from the memory bus only.

Check in sandra and see for yourself. ;)

ED - now I see what you meant... running mem asynch OVER the FSB speed, not under it... remembering the KT333 has the exclusive option of running the mem at "166MHz" asynch...

Still, if you go over 133 FSB it doesn't matter if you run the DIMMs at 100MHz, it'll be more stable for sure but your cardbusses will still be elevated. I.E. what I meant to say is that lowering your DIMM clocks to run asynch UNDER the FSB speed has no effect on the other busses. :t





BTW I've discovered that setting the burst length down to 4 quad words really helps with high-memory-speed stability.

[Grentarc]

my Ti4200 had no problems with a 82MHz AGP bus.. untill today that is.. it is BSODing XP, and 3DMark wont finish a run without crashing..... [*-deleted word-*] KT133a chipset :rolleyes:


(*** Polite language only please *** - WSUA (http://www.internet.com/corporate/legal.html) 3. a.)

[causticVapor]

Well, all that I can say is try bumping the DIMM voltage up a bit, as well as the AGP if you can :(

Is it warmer in Aussie now?

[Grentarc]

I cant touch those voltages.. i want to adjust my AGP voltage ... but cant...

may mod the baord if i can.:rolleyes:

[EDIT] [*-deleted word-*] summer eh? ahh well... it will be winter some time within a year.. so i will be overclocking even more!:x

(*** Polite language only please *** - WSUA (http://www.internet.com/corporate/legal.html) 3. a.)

[causticVapor]

I was wondering if static charges were building up or your northbridge/DIMMs/Ti4200 AGP interface were beginning to suffer from electron migration. You could adjust the impedance on your busses, I.E. drive strength, again, if your BIOS allows it :rolleyes: , to help.

[Grentarc]

I can adjust my drive strength of the AGP, but wtf are the settings??? its in hex, and my current setting is DA....

thinking i should let it off for a day or two or three..... let it have some time to itself.. to reflect on how nice i treat it... and how it should love me for it! (or something like that anyway!):t :D

[causticVapor]

Just try increasing it incrementally... but be careful :eek:

[Grentarc]

yeah... i guess so... but it's [*-deleted word-*] Hex.. i dont wanna think in hex again..... means brain work (not much , but some) [*-deleted word-*] computers....i think it may not be worth the trouble.... it's only a benchmark :p but knowing myself i wont be able to resist the temptation of it all... but at the moment i have more pressing matters to attend to.. like getting hold of a certain girl's ph #.... then i will get back to benching.....:t

(*** Polite language only please *** - WSUA (http://www.internet.com/corporate/legal.html) 3. a.)

[causticVapor]

Zip it! You're sounding too much like me now! :p

[Grentarc]

i take it thats a bad thing....... :x :p

[Beast_USA]

13848
card name:G4 A250 ultra ti 4600
manufacturer: leadtek winfast http://www.leadtek.com/lrusa.htm
video ram: DDR 128
card cooling: stock (side case fan 4500 rpm)
voltage: 1.5@1.6
stock 300/650
oc'd 320/680

13848 (http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6&projectId=5500412) EDIT
Not sure why this doesn't work?

try this one?
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5520897

I like code creatures bench much better!

Frames /s
32.5 avg
50 max

Poly /s
11.3 mio avg
98.5 mio max

Grass frames /s
32.9 avg
50 max

Water frames /s
31.7 avg
36 max

[Grentarc]

Not a valid project URL.... got another one?:t

[maje87c]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5529045


For some reason I didn't install the AGP drivers, and I got a 1500 point increase when I did.

[morpheus kain]

LOL yes sometimes I amaze myself with what I forget!

[pandaz3]

Glad to hear others have the same kind of brainstalls, but thats a bunch of points. I wonder why that would help?:confused:

[Ammok]

here (http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6&projectId=5534131)

for a g2 mx400, 512pc2100 and a 1.4 athlon


gives 3042 3d2001 marks. no o/c bog standard everything.

[T-Bird]

9700 pro default
xp1800@1.61
8KHA+
512mb ddr

12,128 3dmarks

[morpheus kain]

Seems kinda low for a 9700....

[T-Bird]

Originally posted by morpheus kain
Seems kinda low for a 9700....

Its not overclocked.
Only 1.6ghz CPU


Faster RAM, and a 1.8-2.0ghz CPU would raise the scores by at least 2000 marks.

[morpheus kain]

Lol duh.... Yeah that's about right then!

[Grentarc]

got a compare link T-Bird?
here is a tip... don't OC your R9700 if you intend to RMA if anything happens.... has an OC memory.... (in case you didnt know about it):t

[T-Bird]

Originally posted by Grentarc
got a compare link T-Bird?
here is a tip... don't OC your R9700 if you intend to RMA if anything happens.... has an OC memory.... (in case you didnt know about it):t Could only find this one. 50mhz CPU O'C.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5503240

[Ammok]

I swear that's my score your comparing too T-Bird, checkout my link a couple of posts up, small world eh? i need a new vid card though.

[Giblet Plus!]

An update for CV:

I just threw 2.8V at my pc2100, and it's running @ 333 with all the aggressive timings. I also read on the overclockers forum that my msi kt3 ultra actually does have a 1/5 pci divider, so once I unlock my xp2000, I'll have some serious bandwidth! :)

[causticVapor]

Good dude, then go for it! :r I predict you can run your ram @ 345ish with the timings at 2.5-2-6-2 and 3.2v.

Then again only if your board can handle that speed :p

But I predict you will exceed PC800 bandwidth just like me

And we both used sticks of $50 PC2100 :p

[causticVapor]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5546386 2016
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5546779 2002

:D

[Beast_USA]

Originally posted by maje87c
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5529045


For some reason I didn't install the AGP drivers, and I got a 1500 point increase when I did.

Hey that's pretty cool when I click your link it compares yours to mine:)

Everyone stop laughing because I just noticed that:eek:

EDIT
ATI 9700 score 15154 on kt400
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5569531

[hippo]

woho im back folks :t will post benches ones my corsair pc3500 ram arrives! :D

[Ammok]

where you been?

[hippo]

Hi Ammok!
I've been working and traveling abroad..have been surfing but not as much as i used to. lots of catch up for me to do :r. well im almost finished building my new rig! Here are the specs:

mobo: ABIT BE7-RAID i845PE
cpu: P4B 2.26
ram: corsair PC3500ram
grafic: HERCULES 3D PROPHET 9700 PRO
WesternDigital 120Gb 8mb cache
:)

[Ammok]

Nice rig, hurry up then, dying to know what you going get, least 12k and probably more i bet.:)

[Beast_USA]

New one on nforce2

17581 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5663764)

still working on it

fsb 195 bios and 3dmark repoting wrong? 1002 beta bios

[Bigjakkstaffa]

ooh thats nice :eek:

--Jakk:t

[Beast_USA]

Thanks:t

[gilerzz]

Just got my Radeon last 2 days, how was my score for this particular system? Give some comments pls... :t By the way, upgrading to DDR system probably next month hoping some miracle happens with this card. :D

Default = 9933 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5638338)
Card O/Ced = 10349 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5638447)

[gilerzz]

Oh sorry.... I forgot that this forum no longer supports Sig.. :( Below are my current system.

AXP1800+ (palomino) @stock
MSI K7T-Turbo2 (KT133A) :mad:
2*256MB APACER PC133 CL2 SDRAM
Original ATI Radeon 9500 PRO 128MB DDR

[pandaz3]

That seems very respectable for a 133 Mobo!:)

[Grentarc]

gilerzz see if you can get the CPU up to a 160 or higher FSB... works wonders with that combo i would think.
i am waiting on getting the 42.xx dets before i try to bench again....
i am hoping to hit around 12k on my setup.. and i also need to modify the heatsink on the back of my GF4 before i can clock the ram on it any higher.
:rolleyes:

[Grentarc]

got the drivers i wanted (42.01 - read that the 42.30's are actually rebadged 41.50 drivers!).. slight problem tho... my bios needs updating, and i think that is why i have problems at higher FSB speeds and the Ti4200.. heard that my mobo has problems with the NV25 chip... the only problems i have is at high FSB (166 +)

cV: the AGP driving works at DD (default DA) so it helped a bit...

any suggestions now?


BTW: had it in windows with a 170MHz FSB - thinking i may drop the multiplier and try a bit more agressive memory timings (had the most relaxed settings possible!) then i'll try a bit more on the AGP driving and see if that works... otehr than that... i need a lil help to try and hit 12K on SDRAM... and air:x

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=819991

sorry - forgot to mention that for those people who might not know that i have an Abit KT7A-RAID motherboard (KT133a), T-Bred 1700+, 512mb CL2 PC133 GeIL ram and a Leadtek GF4 ti4200 64mb..... (#1 SDRAM on the ORB w00t!!! .. sorry - my bad):x

[gilerzz]

Grentarc - 160 MHz FSB is not possible with my MSI K7T-Turbo2 mobo. I dunno wether it's the mobo or my AXP1800+ (palomino) which was not a great stepping (AGOIA-Z) for overclocking. CPU was cooled with Tt. Volcano 9. A 142 MHz FSB was the max (stable) operating it can achieved, but seems slow. So I lowered the FSB to 140 and play around with my Raddy 9500 core/mem that's about it. BTW below are my new score with updated VIA Hyperion driver and reinstalled Catalyst 3.0 (build) driver. Card was flashed with Warp11's Bios hacked to enable R9500 Pro overclocking. :D

Default= 9969 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5676401) | GPU= 10410 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5676448) | Both= 10959 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5681273) :t

[Beast_USA]

Grentarc,
Nice oc:t


gilerzz,
Great numbers for PC133:D and full test!

[Giblet Plus!]

My friends system I built for him:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5690180

Radeon 9500 Pro 128mb
XP2100
MSI KT4 (he was supposed to get an nforce 2 board) *slap*
512mb Samsung pc2700
80gb WD Special Edition

12,165 with the drivers that came with the video card

[AlexGee]

Nice Giblet! His system is very close to mine and he got a 3d mark disturbingly close to the one I got with the modded 9500 to 9700 pro. The difference is he has 2700 RAM and I have 2100. So I took a stick of 2700 out of another machine and benched again and came up with this http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6&projectId=5696934

Which is 13600 or so, hmm forgot already:D , anyway this is like 500 points better than anything it's done before, I had no idea fast RAM would make such a difference

[Bigjakkstaffa]

My friends system

If hed have gotten the nforce 2 as instructed and dished out a few more quid for a slightly faster CPU he'd havebeen smokin' :eek:

--Jakk:t

[Giblet Plus!]

The nforce 2 would have been good for another 700 points. :eek:

I haven't had a chance to max out the memory timings or cpu overclock yet, but that should add a few marks. :)

So should the newest catalysts. .

[Grentarc]

no matter what i do, i cant beat my current top of 11,650 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5470823) ..... this sucks.....

i can get to 11640's but not over the 11650 mark.... I think it may be because my computer is at its max speed and drivers won't make much of a difference.
:rolleyes:

[gilerzz]

:t Thanx Beast... I love my raddy :D

[Grentarc]

GP - i beat that computer in nature, and dragothic low... wow...
as well as a few others... :rolleyes: still i have the lower score... :(

[Beast_USA]

I gained about 2000 with the asus nforce2 over dragon kt400
mid 15000's to mid 17000's (2700+)

nforce2 lower fsb (not to low) higher scores:t

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by Grentarc
GP - i beat that computer in nature, and dragothic low... wow...
as well as a few others... :rolleyes: still i have the lower score... :(

So did I with my ti4200. The radeon 9500 seems to be really fast in the advanced effects, but slower fill-rate wise. :rolleyes:

[Beast_USA]

Does it give you a better score for the high res?

1 frame low res =1pt 1 frame high res =1.25pts?

When I watch the tests I see the numbers in the low res and think ............**** this score is going to suck.... but the high res numbers are just a little better nature start 114 to 116 and just those couple of pts make the score much higher?

[Giblet Plus!]

What do you mean "higher res"? 3dmark is always run at 1024 x 768, at least for comparitive purposes.

The 9500 is an excellent card. Don't be fooled by the relatively low 3dmark score.

Just for fun, I turned on 6x anti aliasing and 16x AA filtering, and loaded up quake at 1024 x 768 (limit of friend's monitor). It was quite smooth, and I'm sure my ti4200 wouldn't have been, if it could even do 6x anti aliasing and 16x AA. :p

[x51out]

So, off the top of your heads, what difference will it make if/when I upgrade my Shuttle Ak31v2.0 (KT266) to say an Epox 8RDA+ (nForce2) whilst keeping the 512mb PC2100/XP2000+/GF4Ti4200? Will it be as much as Beast_USA (2000 points!)? Or what.

[morpheus kain]

Do you have 2 sticks of memory?

[x51out]

Yes, 2x256.

[Beast_USA]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
What do you mean "higher res"? 3dmark is always run at 1024 x 768, at least for comparitive purposes.

The 9500 is an excellent card. Don't be fooled by the relatively low 3dmark score.

Just for fun, I turned on 6x anti aliasing and 16x AA filtering, and loaded up quake at 1024 x 768 (limit of friend's monitor). It was quite smooth, and I'm sure my ti4200 wouldn't have been, if it could even do 6x anti aliasing and 16x AA. :p

When you run the test it always does two
truck low res ...truck high res and so on.

If I watch fps in high res a small change .... can change the 200 or 300 pts.

[Beast_USA]

Originally posted by x51out
So, off the top of your heads, what difference will it make if/when I upgrade my Shuttle Ak31v2.0 (KT266) to say an Epox 8RDA+ (nForce2) whilst keeping the 512mb PC2100/XP2000+/GF4Ti4200? Will it be as much as Beast_USA (2000 points!)? Or what.

I would guess 2 sticks 1500 or more :t

kt266 to nforce2...... I was the last one to think the nforce2 was fast.....the first one I had no go but this one:D

[x51out]

Sounds like a winner. Now all I need is my BONUS!!! I'll be all over that mobo like white on rice.;)

[Beast_USA]

:D

[Beast_USA]

only 149 to go:p
3Dmark 17851 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5718428) :t

[dragflameson]

Back to the original post,

Athlon XP 2200
ASUS A7V266-E
256MB RAM
80GB HDD

GeForce 4 Ti 4200 @ 300 core clock and 560 memory clock

just under 11,000 3DMarks

:)


My next card will deffently be an ATI (RADEON probably).


Drag

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
What do you mean "higher res"? 3dmark is always run at 1024 x 768, at least for comparitive purposes.

The 9500 is an excellent card. Don't be fooled by the relatively low 3dmark score.

Just for fun, I turned on 6x anti aliasing and 16x AA filtering, and loaded up quake at 1024 x 768 (limit of friend's monitor). It was quite smooth, and I'm sure my ti4200 wouldn't have been, if it could even do 6x anti aliasing and 16x AA. :p


Giblet -- I DARE you. Get a utility called Atuner. It allows you to set unofficial AA and Aniso levels on your GF4 card. 8x antialiasing -- watch it crawl in DX7 games! :p

[Beast_USA]

Originally posted by dragflameson
Back to the original post,

Athlon XP 2200
ASUS A7V266-E
256MB RAM
80GB HDD

GeForce 4 Ti 4200 @ 300 core clock and 560 memory clock

just under 11,000 3DMarks

:)


My next card will deffently be an ATI (RADEON probably).


Drag

I would stay with geforce my 4600 wasn't as fast as the ati 9700
But alot better for gaming.

overclock your system and the geforce just steps right up to plate:) (much better heatsink less noise from the fans)
ATI 9700 overclock the system and you need overclock the ati and find the sweet spot to be stable while on-line gaming.......big pain in the *****.

going back to leadtek geforce FX as soon as they come.

I don't want to fight with anyone the ATI is way faster just not better.

My old card .......I miss it sold it to my brother:(

[AthlonXPpowered]

her ar my scores and a link for it to
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5775974

Sys Specs
Athlon XP 2400+ at 2263 mhz
512 megs of OCZ PC 3500
Abit KX7 333 Raid
Leadtek TI 4400 at 325 core and 680 mem
4 x 60 gigs Maxtor ATA 133 7200 RPM set up in raid 0
Sound Baster Live 5.1
3 Com 905B nic
ATI TV Wonder PCI
Plextor CDRW
Pioneer DVD
Enermax 465 watt powersupply
all in Koollance PC 2 water cooled case

[Grentarc]

what FSB you running there AthlonXPpowered??
Finally got my friend's 2nd 2400+ chip for his vapochill... (if you dont know... don't ask... :rolleyes: )
got the thing in now.. WITH the Asetek shim on it.. and hit 2.44 GHz with a core temp of 2°C
running on a 180MHz FSB it is very nice.. (hit 200 the other day, HDD corrupted :( ) will be trying to get the 200 again without HDD problems.. then there will be a 3DMark here from that system.
GF4 Ti4600 (waiting on new peltier, waterpump, resivoir - al lthe other ones died.. even the resivoir!!! - perspex one that developed cracks somehow...)

was Sandra benching it and it was twice as fast as a P4 2GHz... (rated as an XP 3100+) so me likes this system!:x

[dragflameson]

Originally posted by Beast_USA


I would stay with geforce my 4600 wasn't as fast as the ati 9700
But alot better for gaming.

overclock your system and the geforce just steps right up to plate:) (much better heatsink less noise from the fans)
ATI 9700 overclock the system and you need overclock the ati and find the sweet spot to be stable while on-line gaming.......big pain in the *****.

going back to leadtek geforce FX as soon as they come.

I don't want to fight with anyone the ATI is way faster just not better.

My old card .......I miss it sold it to my brother:(
Beast_USA,

Exactly, I want better! Thats why my next card (depending on time) will be an ATI.


Drag

[AthlonXPpowered]

I am running it at 181 mhz FSB x 12.5 in a KoolLance PC-2 water cooled case

[ichorid]

id just like to make the point on this forum that massive scores are not essential

my system (see bottom) cost about £150 to build, and it gets a 3DMark2001SE score of !300!
(no thats not a typo , 3 hundred!)

this may sound **** but i can still play new games if i set the detail down to rock-bottom

but dont worry, im not keeping it. im gonna sell it and build myself a new one based around the AthlonXP 2200 - any tips send 'em to me!



Duron 945mhz
K7SEM v3c MOBO
onboard SiS730 VIDEO
crappy beige case
nice 17" monitor
SWEET speakers (keep them!)

[ichorid]

email is drachir49@hotmail.com

btw, any recommends for best air cpu socket A cooler?
money no object, middle and budget please!

[Jimstep]

Originally posted by ichorid
...my system (see bottom) cost about £150 to build, and it gets a 3DMark2001SE score of !300!
(no thats not a typo , 3 hundred!)
...

I suggest looking for a video card such as a Geforce3 Ti to boost performance. Your system may be under powered for a g4.

[pandaz3]

Ichorid, you will probably get a lot of response! Well if you don't already have a 2200, most new ones will be T-breds, which I understand run a little cooler than the Palamino 2200's. It will be a 266 FSB. Memory is really the next big step in your planning (some say first step) If you are going to keep the system a long while and not modify it much then PC 2100 (DDR266) will do fine just make sure its CAS2 rated. If you might upgrade your CPU in a year or so, it would likely have a 333 FSB and you should have PC 2700 (DDR333) for the best match (Its not much more than PC2100 ...Still Cas2)
It might be possible to move to a 400 FSB in lessthan a year then you'd want PC 3200 CAS 2 (DDR400) and if you get into overclocking then a higher speed. To switch to a higher speed costs a good bit more so get the one you want for the longer term.
Mobo Get a N force 2, I think most will recommend ASUS, but really any full featured board will do ( If a manufacturer makes two or three get the one with onboard lan, more USB etc) It doesn't matter much how many PCI slots (5 or 6) as you'll not likely need more than three if you go wild with stuff.
Most N Force 2 motherboards support 200, 266, 333, and 400 FSB's so it has a lot of growth potential.
The most overlooked part is the Power supply. In Europe there are many I am not familiar with so no recomendation, but you shoud research this! Serious now get a good PSU!
Video Card : I would get a ATI 9500 Pro, as the best current value to performance combo At this time
If keeping your Hard drive, best to reformat it prior to loading the system. All your drivers will be different and you will go crazy trying to use one with a system already installed.
New hard drive as long as its a recently released model its hard to miss with any of them (I'm speaking IDE here) most like the 8 meg Buffers.
I like a floppie drive, but some don't. They are cheap and come in handy for boot disks and other utilities.
Optical drives get what you like. If a CD-ROM Research all burners, CD or DVD.
Hope this is a starting point :) and welcome to Sysopt

[pandaz3]

Ichorid for a cooler I recommend Vantec, I have a 6040 and it is good, but their Areo line with the TMD fans are super. Budjet buy your 2200 in retail box, you not only get a 3 year warranty, but a good cooler. AMD puts much better coolers in the box than they used to. This cooler is commercially available with a different Fan. use of a good thermal paste like Articsilver 3 is recommended over the Thermal pad on the stock cooler. There are a bunch of good coolers out there now!

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by ichorid
email is drachir49@hotmail.com

btw, any recommends for best air cpu socket A cooler?
money no object, middle and budget please!

Thermalright SLK-900s are out now! :)

http://www.thermalright.com/slk900.html

[causticVapor]

Yep-- those actually come out at the top.

Gib-H2O system up yet?

[Giblet Plus!]

Nope, I need two more fittings and four more screws. I ripped the 3 1/2 bays out of my Chieftec to make room for my 9.5 x 5.125 x 2 " heatercore. :)

I've been pretty busy/sick for the last week, so not much has happened. Now I'm a week behind in Calc, and I have 2 Science Olympiad projects to work on. :eek:

Darn extracurriculars! :p

[b101010b]

3D mark 2001 1024 x768 32 bit: 5978

GeForce 4 mx 440 ocd from 270\400 to 320\460

xp1600@(1.4) to xp1800@(1.55)

[causticVapor]

That's unfortunate gib, hope you feel better.

As for me, well, I'm always behind in calc. :eek:

Anyway,

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5831920

[Beast_USA]

Originally posted by causticVapor
That's unfortunate gib, hope you feel better.

As for me, well, I'm always behind in calc. :eek:

Anyway,

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5831920

Nice one:t

Giblet,

Got almost all the parts for my new pretty P4 3.06@3.477 on air
550PSU kingwin 436 black case dropped two HD's...removed bottom hd holders for rad & pump.

swiftech, said they are about 2 weeks behind (local call for me)

still 1000+ pt's behind my 2700 (the ugly one) on 3dmark:(

Now where Brainerd is? ......my home town

past pissing wars aside ...........hope you feel better.

[Giblet Plus!]

Thanks Beast.

Nice score CV. Looks like you got a 9700 (or a 9500 ;) )

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/cases/kingwin/436wm/sideshot-big.jpg

Nice case. What radiator are you using?

[Beast_USA]

Swiftech 1/2 kit
H20-8500™ SERIES LIQUID COOLING KITS



Anyway to quite down Antec 550 PSU? the fricking thing is driving me nuts!

Thinking about going back to the 430

ordered two going to try duals.....in one out to the other...then out to vid card? they should sit side by side front bottom
http://swiftnets.com/assets/images/products/MCR80/mcr80X640.jpg

[causticVapor]

"Anyway to quite down Antec 550 PSU? the fricking thing is driving me nuts!"

That is one of the quietest PSUs around. :eek:

[Grentarc]

aren't the fan speeds auto adjusted in relation to the temperature of the PSU ?? I know my Leadman has thermally controlled fans.

[Beast_USA]

causticVapor,
the 430 is really quite but the 550 is so loud.


Grentarc,
Yes they are auto and switched but lowest rpm is 4300-4500
front and rear fans.

Ordered A Vantec Stealth 520W Aluminum Power Supply?

going to return the antec:(

[pandaz3]

Beast

www.pcpowerandcooling.com

has some quality quiet PSU's, a little pricy but high quality:)


Oops a little dyslexic when I read your post, but I expect the Vantech will work well.

[Giblet Plus!]

Swap in some slower fans. (vantec stealths work good)


That swiftech radiator is built for convenience, not performance. I'd try to make a black ice extreme or chevette heater core fit, if I were you. :)

[Waltaahh]

3dmark2001 se = 4376

Compaq Presario Laptop 2880CL

P4 1.7
ATI M-Radeon 7500 AGP with 64 mb video
256 RAM

Not bad for a Notebook?

[Witch-Talon]

Nice score :p One of my laptop scored 231 with

Amd Athlon XP 1500+ (1.3ghz)
S3 something
256 PC133 SDRAM

(Defiently not for gaming)

Was using it for a while and decided to leave it back at my other home. Planning to give it to somebody who cant afford it and need it for education.

Originally posted by Waltaahh
3dmark2001 se = 4376

Compaq Presario Laptop 2880CL

P4 1.7
ATI M-Radeon 7500 AGP with 64 mb video
256 RAM

Not bad for a Notebook?

[Beast_USA]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
Swap in some slower fans. (vantec stealths work good)


That swiftech radiator is built for convenience, not performance. I'd try to make a black ice extreme or chevette heater core fit, if I were you. :)
They were out of stock on the vantec.....got a enermax 651 watt big price tag ouch......manual control 1500-3000rpm:D

pandaz3
Thanks for the link


I found a different one what do you think of this one?

http://www.water-cooling.com/reviews/innovatek/images/rad2.jpg

now to find someone who seels it (still thinking duals)

[Giblet Plus!]

That radiator will work worse than the swiftech ones. The swiftechs are a very good design, but they are just too small. (even if you use two) Try to get something like a Black Ice Extreme or an automobile heatercore to fit. :eek:

[Beast_USA]

LOL.....LOL

I going to try the duals.....if that don't cut it black ice extreme
Found one checked it out.....nice thanks for the tip!

Need some P4 advise?

temps? ...Intel site said 65C max....looking for normal temp?

Does not seem to like temps above 42C....just air stock right now

[civic91dx]

11120
sys specs:
AMD xp2700+ (not o/c)
Asylum gf4 ti4200 128mb
Asus a7v8x Deluxe
512mb Kingston PC3200 400mhz
i know that it is low for that sys

[Beast_USA]

civic91dx
11000 is not low:)

If or not over clocking just set all your memory speed to the fastest.

And make sure you enable FAST read & write for video card.

That system will OC sooooo well:eek:

[civic91dx]

yeah i know that it will over clock so well but my volcano 9 wont be able to keep up the fan will but not the heatsink so i have to buy a new heatsink and im not sure plus right now im having mb problems (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129835)

[civic91dx]

i change the memory speed and change my apeture size to 32 and bench 11780

[Beast_USA]

Such fun ....nights of no sleep ....just to go fast:t

[LenChan]

I just put this thing together and haven't had a chance to tweak it at all:

Stock ATI AiW 9700 Pro

3DMark2001 SE Build 330: 12,375

[Giblet Plus!]

w00t! Got my water-cooling system leak testing now. I'll put up pics once I borrow a digicam from a friend. :)

[civic91dx]

hey i over clock my cpu to 2352 mhz and my geforce 4 ti4200 to 265 and go a score of 12432 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5897782) all in air but i did open the window so the temp out side is around 20 so im going to close it now

[Beast_USA]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
w00t! Got my water-cooling system leak testing now. I'll put up pics once I borrow a digicam from a friend. :)

Not goooood my first home depot pump started leading out of the back of the pump:(

Will have all my parts tue or wed!! ....I did go with the black ice extreme.

Want to see the picture of yours!

[Giblet Plus!]

In that case, go here. (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130132)

[causticVapor]

Who says the true550 is loud? I can barely hear it, and could almost say that it doens't pull quite enough air off the voltage regulator. In fact, the smartpower 350 has the fans spinning faster.

And Gib, the maxxpert radiator is ok, of course not performing as well as those twice its size :p I'd just like to see one with 1/2" ID copper tubing. It's ideal for those with midi cases.

I might just do this (http://www.overclockers.com/tips1061/) someday :D

[Bigjakkstaffa]

11549

Athlon XP2400+ Tbred
EPoX 8rda+
512mb PC2700 CL2.5 Crucial
MSI gf4 ti4200 64mb

At stock speeds

Not bad, only 3000 more than my 1.33tbird/512 SDRAM/Gf4ti4200 but when i o/c the processor i expect to see a large jump :)

--Jakk:t

[enfiniti]

My score is 1826. :)


AMD Anthlon 750
32 mb DDR ATI Radeon @183/183
256mb PC100

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by causticVapor

And Gib, the maxxpert radiator is ok, of course not performing as well as those twice its size :p I'd just like to see one with 1/2" ID copper tubing. It's ideal for those with midi cases.


No it's not okay. That whole design of radiators is flawed. Heater-core style radiators perform much better because they have less flow resistance and more surface area. :p

[Beast_USA]

Giblet
WOW that radiator is huge!

Still waiting....for my new stuff:(


causticVapor
My mistake it was atx something 550
Went to enermax 651:)

Added nexus 4 fan controller:)

[Ammok]

Not bad, only 3000 more than my 1.33tbird/512 SDRAM/Gf4ti4200 but when i o/c the processor i expect to see a large jump

ONLY 3000??? thats more than I get with my G2mx in total, LOL.

Can't wait to see what you get once you got it optimised, but not bad for starters.:)

[XtReAmTwEaKist]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5979412 specs are on there

[causticVapor]

All maxed out. 2.55GHz, 203ish FSB. Single mem channel of Corsar 3200 @ 2-2-2-6. BBA 9700 pro @ 351, 333 (no ramsinks yet.)

Disregard the "9700 at stock" comment. I didn't realize I still had it overclocked during the bench.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6017462

[XtReAmTwEaKist]

YOU KNOW WHAT cV [*-deleted word-*] YOU!!!!! I CANT EVEN GET 10000 out of my computer [*-deleted word-*] [*-deleted word-*] vid card 9000 pro 128mb but the mem comes up at 64! dont ask cause im [*-deleted word-*] at that fact

(*** Polite language only please *** - WSUA (http://www.internet.com/corporate/legal.html) 3. a.)

[Grentarc]

XtReAmTwEaKist - well, i can guess why you cant hit 10,000 3DMarks... the Radeon 9000 is slower than the 8500... and the 8500 is similar in speed to the Geforce4 Ti4200...
tip - if you can get a 166 FSB, it wil make a bit of a difference to your score...


does DX9 make any difference to the score? (i heard that it lowered some peolpe's scores when it was installed)


still cnt beat my current score...here (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5470823) i got 11,649 one day ... nice and close to my top score... :t

[Beast_USA]

My 2700 still in the lead with my systems

2700+@2439 ati 9700 pro
17851 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5718428)

P4 3.06@3496 ati 9700 pro
17344 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5896397)

P4 3.06@3496 leadtek G4 ti 4600 dual chip
15601 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5911194)

Will be working on the G4 score more next week

But how sad for my P4 1000+mhz & PC3500 and still can't catch my AMD

[Grentarc]

12,278 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6032312) 3DMarks on SDRAM
borrowed a friends GF4 Ti4800SE for a week, and his XP 2600+ chip.... got a problem now.. my board cant go higher on the multiplier...... so i cant overclock this chip, and 166FSB has a few problems with the ram .. 165 is fine tho :p

[pandaz3]

10,365 up from 7066
got a new ATI made 9500 Pro and yes it is at 297/297 which is the best usable over clock I could achieve (Default is 275/270) so a little less than 10% OC.
I have a XP2100+ locked and stock at 133 FSB. My Gigabyte 7DXR motherboard has a AMD 761 chipset and a poor OC'ing BIOS. It has 768 Meg PC2100. I am limited by the mother board, but hey it's a darn good working computer!

[more]

12344..................its about time. finally bought a decent graphics accelarator. so here are the details:

Abit SR7-8X, fsb at 143, vcore up 15%, vddr at 2.8 volts.
Temparatures are acceptable. 43C browsing...50C gaming.
Maxtor 40 Gigabyte HD 7200 RPM ATA100
P4 2.53GHZ o/c to 2.717GHZ
PC3200 DDR400 Samsung running at 178MHZ
ATI Radeon 9500 PRO with latest drivers dated 1.23.03
Creative 6X DVD-ROM
Creative 52X CD-ROM
Sony 12X/8X/32X CD/CDRW



Too much more to list, extra hard disks (2), many fans, quite though.

Even though the benchmark tests are not a real standard to live by, I must say I am impressed with the ATI card. A major improvement from the 440MX card it replaced.

[Mr. Underhill]

Let's see:

MSI 645 Ultra Mainboard
P4 1.6GHz
1.02 GB PC2100
40GB Seagate HD
VisionTek Xtasy Geforce2 MX200
Creative Labs Audigy
Yamaha CRW2200E
400Watt PS
Win98SE

1024x768 32bit

3DMark2001 SE: 1361 :(

What are you gonna do? Time for a new card, he says.

What kind of jump do you guys think I'll get out of a Radeon 9700 PRO? Please tell me substantial.

[pandaz3]

Very substantial! 7 to 10 times more I believe.

[Ammok]

agreed, looking at well over 10k with 9700 pro.

[Sweeper]

MSI 845PE-Max (MS-6580)
P4 2.53GHz w/ Tt Spark 7 HSF
Radeon 9700 Pro
OCZ 512MB PC2700
WD 60GB 7200RPM
Sound Blaster Live 5:1
10/100 NIC
16x DVD
20x10x40 CDRW
Tt XaserII Case
2 Red CC Light Kits
3 Red Antec LED Case fans (other 2 are Tt's)
Creative Lab 5:1 Surround Speakers
5118 3DMARK 2K3
15557 3DMARK 2K1 SE

[Mr. Underhill]

Originally posted by pandaz3
Very substantial! 7 to 10 times more I believe.

Rock on! Thanks for the HUGE good news. Fearing my processor would be a bottleneck, I was going to be psyched with a jump to only 5,000 marks.

[smily_03]

Abit KR7A-RAID mobo
WD 80GB Special Edition hard drive on the raid channel
AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (non-oc'd)
512MB PC2100DDR
GeForce4 TI4200 64MB AGP8x (non oc'd)
Sound Blaster Audigy Gamer
Logitech Z-560 speakers

10,128 3D Marks

[nimh]

this is my specs

Intel P4 2.53GHz 533MHz
Gigabyte GA-8PE667 Ultra
512MB DDR 333 PC2700 Ram
GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB

got a 10930 3dmark2001se score

no overclocking no nothing...ran the 4 game tests

is this ok?

[Ammok]

nimh

its not a bad score, but it is worthwhile using the compare feature to see what other people are getting with the same setup, obviously those that oc will have higher, but there be a large bunch in the middle who run at stock, and you can compare your scores with those.

[nimh]

help i just installed directx 9 cause of a game
and now i cant run 3DMark2001 SE (build 330)

i uninstalled it and rebooted and then installed it again

still same problem???

[x51out]

You shouldn't have had to install DX9 because of a game as no game that I know of even requires it. Besides that though, I installed it as well and have had no problems... somthing I can't say about going from DX7 to DX8 (problems). But that was then, and those problems were resolved. Try un and re-installing the video card drivers as well....(like you never thought of that already... )

[nimh]

well freelancer did require dx9, thats why i just installed it
i am running xp pro sp1

just downloaded the patch to upgrade 3dmark2001 se pro to build 330 and applied it and it worked

seems the source i has wasnt 330

thanks

was installing dx9 a bad idea all in all?

[x51out]

Freelancer? Really? Gotta check that out. Hope I'm not getting behind the curve ;) .
I don't see why installing DX9 would be a bad idea as DirectX is backwards compatible and DX9 has some optimizations over DX8.1 (apparently... I haven't noticed anything).

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Freelancers not bad, i played the demo, its mouse driven interace is a bit of a bugger though, its tougher on the wrists than a copy of playboy :eek:

--Jakk:t

[Necide]

P4, 2.66 GHz, 512k L2, retail box w/ retail HSF
Abit SR7-8X, rev 1.0 [only revision there is, I believe] -
SiS 648 chipset, BIOS is 1st release (un-upgraded)
512 MB of Samsung CL2.5 PC-2700 DDR (1 module)
Sapphire Radeon 8500LE 128mb, 250/225* (core/mem)

*I was under the impression most Radeon 8500s were by default clocked at 275/275 and that Radeon 8500LEs were by default clocked at 250/250. Well this one came at 250/200 and is unstable at 250/250. Feh!

Anyway...

9050 3D marks

[edit: video now @ 275/225, stable - 9350 3D Marks]

[mykel]

AMD 2400+ @ 2.117
Asus A7N8X Dlx BIOS 1002A
3x 512MB Samsung DDR PC2700
GF TI4600 Xtasy
Just got the new benchmark numbers....

3DMark 2001 = 14,711


Click to compare (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6159599)

[Mr. Underhill]

Bit of an update:

I've swapped out my nVidia Geforce2 MX200 for a brandy-new ATI Radeon 9700 Pro.

My old score running 1024x768x32 was 1361. The new score is 9783!!! :D :D :D :D

Talk about a HUGE jump!! I'm very psyched. With 4x FSAA running, I still score 7902. Pretty good from all I can gather.

But now then....What can I do to tweak this even higher (not that I'm not EXTREMELY pleased... UT2K3 looks A-M-A-Z-I-N-G when set at 1024x768x32 and with high or highest details!! I'd just like to see what more I can do...). I'll list my specs below and maybe someone can give me some advice. There's a new processor in my coming future, probably a Northwood P4 2.4, so bear that in mind when checking my specs out. You should also probably consider that I'm *not* running fast-writes, though my MOBO can support it if I flash my bios. At this time, I've read too many conflicting reports to trust the fast-writes.

Thanks for all advice in advance.


MSI 645 Ultra Mainboard w/400Watt PS
P4 1.6GHz (Willy, I think)
1.02 GB PC2100 DDR
40GB 7200RPM Seagate HD
ATI RADEON 9700 PRO w/ Catalyst 3.1
Creative Labs Audigy Gamer
Yamaha CRW2200E
Win98SE running DirectX 8.1

-Mr. Underhill.

[pandaz3]

Your new 2.4 will boost you 1500 points or so and make you more happy with your overall performance. There are new Cat 3.2 drivers at ATI's website


www.ati.com


they have a menu on far left and it says "Find a driver" click on that and then 9700 Pro, Win 98, agree to there small print and save or open as you see fit.

[XxFaeryOnFirexX]

with my Radeon 7000 32MB DDR, I got a score of a whopping 1243. Wow!

That was with the newest drivers.

[pandaz3]

With the Cat 3.2's I got

10287

XP 2100+, 9500 Pro at 330/290, AMD 761 Chipset (266 FSB), 768 PC2100 CL 2.5

[ATI RADEON 8500]

What??? How is that posible? My system owns yours!

AMD ATHLON XP 1900+
Sapphire Radeon 9500 non pro ~RED BOARD~ 128 meg @ 355/310 using Rage3D
CATALYST 3.1
256 MB PC2100 DDR RAM CL 2.5
ECS k7s5a
Window XP Home SP1

3DMARK2001 SE score = 10,400

Originally posted by pandaz3
With the Cat 3.2's I got

10287

XP 2100+, 9500 Pro at 330/290, AMD 761 Chipset (266 FSB), 768 PC2100 CL 2.5

[Rugor]

Hmmmmmmmmm Pandaz3 I got 10268 with an XP 1800+ 9500 Pro@stock 256mb of PC2100 at CL 2.5 on an AMD 761 chipset board. Using the Cat 3.1's.

You may be able to tweak yours higher.

[pandaz3]

Untill I got the 3.2's I was limited to 295/290. I will try a little more GPU speed, but the Memory won't go higher. It is an ATI Card with Infineon Memory and I did flash the BIOS, but nothing else, I am using Rivatuner to OC it. If I can get more I will be happy, but this is okay too. BTW is your CPU OC'd. I have a Gigabyte 7DXR board. :)

[ATI RADEON 8500]

Mine is Infineon 3.3ns. Did't have to bios flash it. It came unlocked. The maxium is 360 core 324 mem acording to rage3d. But cant go 360 core and/or 313+ mem too much artifact.

Nothing is overclocked on my computer except video card. Once money allows me to buy a good AMD mobo that support Locked AGP/PCI and high FSB. Then I'll overclock my cpu/ram.

When I installed Catalyst 3.2 I noticed new Artifact in UT2003. Gonna mess around with this computer some more in few mins and see how high I can go without serious artifact appearing.

Originally posted by pandaz3
Untill I got the 3.2's I was limited to 295/290. I will try a little more GPU speed, but the Memory won't go higher. It is an ATI Card with Infineon Memory and I did flash the BIOS, but nothing else, I am using Rivatuner to OC it. If I can get more I will be happy, but this is okay too. BTW is your CPU OC'd. I have a Gigabyte 7DXR board. :)

[Necide]

Originally posted by ATI RADEON 8500
What??? How is that posible? My system owns yours!

^-- directed at pandaz3

Huh? Spec-wise HIS system owns YOURS... Score-wise, a difference of less than 200 3D Marks isn't exactly "ownage" ;) But it's cool nonetheless :)

[Rugor]

I'm using the GA-7DX (no RAID) mobo.

Pandaz3 I think you need to do more services related tweaking, and possibly set your detail lower. You should be getting a lot more than I am and you aren't. We have the same chipset and mobo brand but you have more RAM, a faster CPU and GPU.

And yes mine is the ATI card with the 3.3ns Infineon SGRAM.

[Grentarc]

ATI RADEON 8500 - yes, but mine ownz yours... and I have a KT133a Chipset mobo, with SDRAM...12,278 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6032312)
look at specs.. tis goodly and fast.

[pandaz3]

Well Thanks Rugor and all, I increased my GPU speed to 337 and then 345 and then 352, I got a 23point and 21 point increase in 2003 scores and a lockup at last speed, but my 2001se points dropped 40 and then another 30 points, talk about diminishing returns. Mine were all negative I think this odd, I may have to go thru My entire system.:(

[Necide]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I got a 750 3D Mark (2001) increase by taking my core/mem speeds up from 250/200 to 275/225 on my Radeon 8500LE. Something is DEFINITELY fishy here, pandaz3. You should be cranking out the 3D marks.

[pandaz3]

Yes Rugor has essentially the same board as I don't use the Raid Feature, I have been trying to pare down the processes in the task manager and I will DL the Tweaking help from Rage3D (If I recall correctly. I'll update on aything that works....or doesnt',

[Grentarc]

Kill Explorer.exe before you bench, and if you are using an NT based OS, then set 3DMark2001(se).exe to realtime priority.. can help get a higher score.:t

[Necide]

Killing explorer is kinda cheap, though. I mean you're not going to kill explorer before you hop into battle in UT2003 or anything. Benchmarks are based on statistics, and statistics are far too often manipulated to misrepresent. I think killing explorer or setting priority on processes is misrepresentative of your system's realistic gaming performance... unless of course you have severe obsessive compulsive disorder and you DO do that stuff every time you run a game :eek: :)

[pandaz3]

Using Rage 3D tweaker and set to best performance, not 2001SE

I was able to get 10491

[x51out]

I wonder if this thread has surpassed that RIDICULOUS "Clocking Is Good?" thread... it pains me to remember that one :rolleyes: .

[XxFaeryOnFirexX]

Originally posted by Beast_USA
My 2700 still in the lead with my systems

2700+@2439 ati 9700 pro
17851 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5718428)

P4 3.06@3496 ati 9700 pro
17344 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5896397)

P4 3.06@3496 leadtek G4 ti 4600 dual chip
15601 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5911194)

Will be working on the G4 score more next week

But how sad for my P4 1000+mhz & PC3500 and still can't catch my AMD

Well, it might beat it out if you disable hyper threading. Hyper threading has been known to decrease performance in some areas.

[ATI RADEON 8500]

Yes thats why I go WHAT??? :) I was confused why my mere (major budget machine) got 200+ points higher than his machine thats better than mine.

And I did't overclock anything except my videocard.

Originally posted by Necide


^-- directed at pandaz3

Huh? Spec-wise HIS system owns YOURS... Score-wise, a difference of less than 200 3D Marks isn't exactly "ownage" ;) But it's cool nonetheless :)

[Necide]

200 isn't much, I picked up 100 just by eliminating some unnecessary XP services and tweaking a few (non video card related) registry settings. I got about ~300 when I overclocked the core by 25 mhz and another 300 when I overclocked the memory by 25 mhz. Something about his system is holding back atleast a couple hundred points, I think it's one major bottleneck though - while a bunch of little tweaks might help, he shouldn't need them to have a better score than that.

[Beast_USA]

Originally posted by XxFaeryOnFirexX


Well, it might beat it out if you disable hyper threading. Hyper threading has been known to decrease performance in some areas.

I'm using win2k & winXP ....... will try win2K

New G4 score pre-water
15914 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6135469 )

[Alan Ross]

I tested out at 3979 at 1024x768
I had installed the lastest Catalist drivers 3.2
and Directx 9..
I tested with 3dMark 2001 and got 9623 . Then after installing the new drivers and DX 9 got 1300..






My System is
Dell 2.53 Mz
512 megs ddr 2700 ram
Radeon 9700 TX
120 Gig HD

[Mr. Underhill]

Yet another update:

I've "upgraded" to Direct X 9 and Catalyst 3.2 drivers only to suffer a consistent performance hit of 500 Marks (from 9700 to 9200). Needless to say, I'm vexed. What gives? Is 3DMark2001 not suited for DX9? Or is there something else out of whack here? I tried running 3DMark03 only to have my system lock up... Yet another issue to deal with... It never ends, eh? :p

Here's my setup (yet again)...

MSI 645 Ultra Mainboard w/ 450 Watt PS
P4 1.6GHz
1.0 GB PC2100 DDR
40GB Seagate
Radeon 9700 Pro running Catalyst 3.2
Audigy Gamer
Windows 98SE w/ Direct X 9

Help a fella out. Should I go back to 3.1? Or do a fresh install of Windows altogether, reloading Direct X 8.1 in the process? Or.... Should I just pony up and load XP? (So many decisions for just a couple points and FPS...)

Many thanks,

-Mr. Underhill.

[Mr. Underhill]

Originally posted by Alan Ross

I tested with 3dMark 2001 and got 9623 . Then after installing the new drivers and DX 9 got 1300..

D@MN!! And I thought I had issues. So sorry, Alan.

Wow.

[x51out]

Mr. Underhill, if I were you, I'd get rid of Win98. I know there are a lot of us here that still love it, but I for one do not. Upgrade to at least Win2000, WinXP mite be better. Win98 just has memory management issues, amongst other issues.

[Alan Ross]

I made a mistake I got 13002 not 1300...after installing DX9 and catylist drivers.......Al

[x51out]

Since you didn't hit the PANIC BUTTON whilst posting the erraneous 1300 score, I just added another zero to the 1300 and thought you typoed it. Yeah. :D

[Beast_USA]

Mr. Underhill,

Go to Win2K pro
I can push my system (OC) better in win2K than winXP... XP just can't take the speed:t

P4 3.06@3612 fsb157...(HT disabled goes faster:confused: .).. OK now it's faster then my 2700@2583


G4 3dmark 16152 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6193158)

[Burt]

1.33 T bird
K7VTA3 MB
512 DDR 2100
WinXP Home SP 1
Radeon 9500 Pro 3.2 drivers
DirectX 8.1

3D MARK 2001SE 8,041

I had WIN 98SE with DirectX 9.0, on this computer til last night. Was only able to get 7,030 and could not run all the tests. Now I can't run 3D MARK 2003 because it requires DirectX 9.0. I think I'll stick with 2001SE and 8.1



:cool:

[Nightblade]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6216206

Just got the Barton and Mobo and still playing with it

[Sweeper]

16473

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6226006

5482

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=499344


:cool:

[cwin]

My old pc is a Time Machine 500
AMD K6-2 500mhz
ATI Rage III

3Dmark2001 score @ 800x600 16bit NoAA: 583
1024x768 32bit NoAA: 211

To explain the scores would be saying that my PC didn't actually run many of the tests; it didn't support them! It didn't even suport AA!!
Its average frame rate (I counted) 0.1 fps

New PC
Intel P4 2.8GHz
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro

3Dmark2001 score @ 1024x768 32bit AA: 15,911
Cool, eh!:D

[Mr. Underhill]

Well, I've got the P4 2.4 in the machine now (up from a 1.6) and have had a huge performance boost.

I've moved from 9200 marks as of last post to 12,040! Rock on! Very pleased now. Don't know if I'll see any increase when I finally move away from 98SE, but for the present, I'm totally psyched--finally, I have my machine where I'd like it to be.

Now how do I tweak it to get up in the 14,000+ range.... :rolleyes: :) ;)

-Mr. Underhill.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Now how do I tweak it to get up in the 14,000+ range....

BIOS Tweaks, OS Service tweaking, and overclockign of GPU/CPU should get you there

--Jakk:t

[more]

I have done the BIOS tweak. On a 9500 PRO. Increased my

3DMARK2001SE score by 1400 points, 12214 to 13637.

Still have room for more, bring it up slowly.

[Andiesean]

3DMark2001 SE

11221 3D marks

ASUS P4S8X mobo
P4 2.4GHz
9700 Radeon Pro w/ 3.2 drivers
512MB PC2700

[Mr. Underhill]

Perhaps this isn't the appropriate forum to ask this question, but considering that it pertains to Benchmarking for 3DMark2001SE, I'll take a shot...

When people refer to "BIOS mod" or "THE" Bios mod, to what are they referring, specifically?

I'm guessing there's more than setting the AGP aperature and enabling fast writes.... Anyone care to enlighten me?

Thanks.

-Mr. Underhill.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

The BIOS mod is for the r9500 card to turn it into a r9700

We are referring to BIOS tweaks generally, which as you thought, are the likes of AGP appature, Fast writes, SBA etc

--Jakk:t

[Mr. Underhill]

Thanks, Jakk.

Unfortunately, you lost me at SBA and etc. I know about only a few bios tweaks. Clearly there are more. Could you direct me to a resource for learning about this stuff?

[Bigjakkstaffa]

http://www.rojakpot.com/

the definitive BIOS tweak guide can be found there

--Jakk:t

[Mr. Underhill]

As always, thanks very much, Jakk. :t

-Mr. Underhill.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Welcome :t

--Jakk:t

[NOHTO]

20024 3D-MARKS FINALLY!!!! (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6368835)
It took me a minute (been busy with work and the Family addition) but I finally broke 20,000. Did it with a FIC AU-11 (same as an Epox 8RDA+)


8RDA+ XP 2700+@2847mhz Prometeia cooled 2.05v
Radeon 9700 pro 456/348 MCW50-T (172w pelt) -15.4c coolant
2 256meg Kingston 3500 Hyper-X
TTGI-520W PSU
MODS:
VIDEO- VGPU 1.76V
MB- VDD 1.95v VDIMM 2.75v VDT 1.4v
Custom heatsinks for mosfets
6000 BTU/hr air cond. cooling case 15c

[pandaz3]

Congratulations on breaking the 20,000 Mark! Gee I don't think I'll post my new score..... 10,660 well not as impressive, but still better tha some of my old 10,200 to 10,300 scores, so I do understand some of what it takes to get there. Congratulations again.:)

[Ankerson]

15,733

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6392572

[frnkzks]

Does anyone actually read this post when there are 1000 other posts in the thread?