POST YOUR 3DMARK2001 SCORES!!!!

[Grentarc]

9457 on SDRAM!!!!
Athlon XP 1900+
64Mb Geforce4 Ti4200 (Leadtek) @ 310/570
768mb SDRAM
3DMark 2001SE Build 330

Anyhow.. i am just proving that you dont need DDR to get good scores!!
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4630684

[Witch-Talon]

DDR "266 mh" ram only have like 100 point diffrence from "133 mhz sdr"

Bottom line is sdram vs ddr dosent make much diffrence on 3dmark score.

YOUR SCORE DOESNT COUNT! IT ISNT DEFAULT SETTINGS OTHERWISE U WOULD GO TROUGH ALL TEST NOT ONLY THE GAMES. YOU WOULD HAVE BIG DIFFRENCE IN SCORE IF U USED DEFAULT SETTINGS.

And WTF up with your FSB? it's at 0 mhz???

Originally posted by Grentarc
9457 on SDRAM!!!!
Athlon XP 1900+
64Mb Geforce4 Ti4200 (Leadtek) @ 310/570
768mb SDRAM
3DMark 2001SE Build 330

Anyhow.. i am just proving that you dont need DDR to get good scores!!
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4630684

[Grentarc]

yeah.. but back when i was in the 7000's i was told by Bizkitkid that i needed DDR to go anywhere near 9000 mark.. i got almost 500 points over.... pretty good going from 7000ish to 9500ish with same hardware!
Dunno about the FSB.. I have an Abit KT7A-RAID.... guess there is a bug.

About the settings.. it crashes some times and wont give me a score.. .. i wil TRY to get a default (all i was missing was the theory tests!!!) score.

[Grentarc]

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4630872
Done.. took 3 goes, but it finially worked
9397

:rolleyes: Lost 60 points to theory...:eek:

[Witch-Talon]

Thanks for being my.... Test dummy? :) wanted to see how well a Athlon 1900+ would do with a gf4200 seem nice but not worth the money to spend on 3 computers hat i dont use heavy games on it.

Nice scores tro!

Originally posted by Grentarc
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4630872
Done.. took 3 goes, but it finially worked
9397

:rolleyes: Lost 60 points to theory...:eek:

[Grentarc]

ahh.. my 1900+ is actually a 1700+ unlocked... and my bios wont go higher than 1900+. unstable if i go higher by forcing the mulitplier... and i am not using full 1.85 Vcore... I still need to upgrade my GFdrivers to 40.71...

[rickdcableone]

This is my GF3 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4405404) I think its good

[Logan[TeamX]]

Re-tested at a moderate O/C of 138FSB (276), vid card at stock settings (225/400), 3DMark at stock settings, build 330.

4865 3DMarks

Only thing holding me back is the GeForce 2 Ti 64MB card...

I can easily hit 5300 with a moderate O/C on the video card...

I really need to get a newer, faster vid card, but for what I do it's alright. I play the newest stuff at moderate framerates.

Might go to a GeForce 4 Ti 4600 at Christmas... probably end up well over the 10,000 barrier then!

XP 1800 + @ 1900
256MB DDR-2100
ECS K7S5A mobo
WinME
Pine GeForce 2 Ti 64MB DDR with TV-out

[sLob_kiLla]

I have a killer score for how old my card is

Amd 1600+@1900+
Asus Geforce 256 32Megs DDR (thats at 150, 350) Sink and fan on chip and ram sinks on mem

Avg of about 6400

[Logan[TeamX]]

What the hell else are you doing to get it that high???? There's something you're not being honest about...

[Tanelusa]

Originally posted by Logan[TeamX]
What the hell else are you doing to get it that high???? There's something you're not being honest about...

Yeah like running all low and 320resylytion:D :r
And OC with watercooling:p :eek: :p :p

[Grentarc]

I was thinking 3DMark2000

[Logan[TeamX]]

The 40.71 betas for WinME put me up to 4905 last night, and with some decent O/Cing of the GeForce 2, I hit 5150 at default res and complexity (1024x768). I'm rather impressed with the new Detonators!

[ANMAN]

11000

No overclocking...yet
p4 2.4
512 pc2700 (only...)
gf4 TI4400
SiS648 on shuttle AS45GTR v1.3
40 5400 gb maxtor
80 7200 gb maxtor
Santa Cruz

[ANMAN]

13127
p4 2.4 @ 2.54
170+ fsb
512mb 2700 RAM
GF4ti4400 @ 4600 speed
a couple maxtors
XP pro
newest nvidia drivers

[booter]

Update..

Detonator 40.72

P4 2.26 @ 2.58 Ghz
P4S533 (SiS645DX)
Asus Gefore3-Ti200 @ 243/537
512MB Acer DDR2100

Running with a 152 FSB and 1:1 mem setting. Stock Heatsink/Fan and No case fans!

Temp Cpu 42C MB 29C duringload (asus probe).

New SCORE: 9468 :t
http://booter.coms.ph/images/3dmarkl6okt02.jpg

[uncle_jimbo]

Update:

40.41 drivers - 98363DMarks

1.8Ghz Pentium 4
256Mb DDR333
GeForce4 Ti4400
WinXP Home

[x51out]

Now, look at booter's score with a GF3Ti200, that is a dynamite score, even if you could probably fry eggs on it.
Hey Uncle_Jimbo! I LUV that score... nintyeight thousand threehundred sixtythree (DMarks, that is)Wow... ;)

[Grentarc]

thats pretty reasonable fore a GF4 ti4400 to get a DMark score that high :D

[booter]

Now, look at booter's score with a GF3Ti200, that is a dynamite score, even if you could probably fry eggs on it.

..hehe your probably right...but my cpu and mobo temps seems ok so i will se if i can push it even further and yes im still at default 1.5 vcore voltage :D

thats pretty reasonable fore a GF3 to get a DMark score that high

havent seen anyone break my score here yet with the geforce3ti200 (there might be someone?) :p

[Unimatrix X]

Whats wrong with this Picture (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4735840)

10516 on a Radeon9700 I think theres a bottleneck floating around!

Can Any1 help!

AMD XP 2000+ // ThermalRight SLK-800 // 60mm Focussed Flow Delta Fan
Abit KX7-333R
Corsair 512MB DDR XMS3200 CAS2.5
Gigabyte MayaII R9700 PRO
30.7GB IBM 75XGP
Hercules Game Theater XP
Plextor 24/10/40 CDRW
Pioneer 16xDVD Drive
Antec TruePower 480W
Windows XP Pro SP1

[Grentarc]

did you have anisotropic detail in your drivers set to full???? and your frame buffer is set to tripple!!! set it to double and retry... it may get you a few more points...:confused: :(


btw.. if i go by how magazines say it on their covers.. my Geforce4 Ti 4200 is 100% faster than ur Radeon...coz ur DOT3 bumpmapping is a really low score!... something is wrong!

[Unimatrix X]

Ok I think my settings were wrong so I'll try again later!
We shall see.....

[Snix]

Just ran 3DMark 2001 today and got 3785. Does this seem like a reasonable score for my setup?

Shuttle AK35GT2
Athlon XP 1800+
256 MB Crucial DDR
Visiontek Geoforce2 GTS-V 32MB

[Grentarc]

Originally posted by Snix
Just ran 3DMark 2001 today and got 3785. Does this seem like a reasonable score for my setup?

Shuttle AK35GT2
Athlon XP 1800+
256 MB Crucial DDR
Visiontek Geoforce2 GTS-V 32MB


What drivers you running? It seems a little low for your hardware...

[Unimatrix X]

Ok back with the goods....sort of!

12786 3DMark2001 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4748424)
It still dont feel right!

I'm running Cat 2.3!

[Grentarc]

You still should get higher than that!.. what are your memory timings? they the latest ATi drivers? and you have the latest VIA 4-in-1's installed?... what about any background tasks? also, seeing as you have the FSB to lower than 200 MHz, you should be able to run the Corsair CL2.5 at CL2.... you only just have the FSB over 166.. .other than that.:confused:

[StealthNet]

Originally posted by Snix
Just ran 3DMark 2001 today and got 3785. Does this seem like a reasonable score for my setup?

Shuttle AK35GT2
Athlon XP 1800+
256 MB Crucial DDR
Visiontek Geoforce2 GTS-V 32MB

No.

I think something around 4500~5000 is more adequate.

[Logan[TeamX]]

With my O/Ced XP 1800 (2000 currently) and O/Ced Pine GeForce 2 Ti 64MB DDR (250/440 from 225/400), I get about 5200 in 3DMark. You should be around 4100 or so... although you are running a 32MB Ge2 card. Tweak it a little with RivaTuner :)

Happy Hunting!

Logan

[adamc91115]

AMD Athlon XP 1800+
256MB RAM
S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR (cheap on-board card)
Windows XP

Scores:
1024x768 - screen got distorted and couldnt finish the tests
800x600 - 919
640x480 - 1126

[panchos]

xp 1500+
ECS K7S5A
256 DDR
40GB Maxtor
ATI Radeon 8500LE 64MB 230/230 at 250/250 .
Win XP

Score 1024*768= 7501

[panchos]

Is there much diference between WINDOWS 98se and WINDOWS XP?????

[Bigjakkstaffa]

XP is MUCH MUCH more stable then 98, some argue 98 is marginally faster than XP/2k for games etc, but in realiy this is untue or negligible.

--Jakk:t

[x51out]

Totally. I "duel" boot 98SE and XP, but ever since I've had XP, 98SE has just been a big pain in the ***** (comparatively). The only reason I keep it around is... is... you know, I don't even know anymore ;)

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Win 9x is much easier to handle in the case of an almighty f**kup due to the ability to drop into DOS and sort it all out, its also useful to hav as a duel boot in order to repair the other OS should it becoem damaged.. other than that it just sits and does... well not a lot.. thats why i got rid of it (all my part. are fat 32 so no need for its DOS capabilities)

--Jakk:t

[FieldDoc]

Yet another score.

Windows XP Pro
Athlon XP 1700+
ECS K7S5A mobo
512Mb DDR
GeForce4 Ti4200 64Mb

3DMark 2001 score: 8470

[Snix]

Ok, to answer Grentarc's question I'm using the 28.32 Nvidia drivers. I've already installed the latest VIA 4in1 drivers. If 3785 seems a bit low for my system how would you go abouts in increasing the score?

[x51out]

Snix, your score seems pretty good for the card. There are some optimaizations in the BIOS, start here for pretty standard settings:http://www.omegacorner.com/
if it's not a direct link, go to the nVidia section, then find BIOS settings. I had (up until last week) a GF2GTS-Pro 64mb, and I got around 4200, but I'm running XP really lean too. Of course, you could always oc yer card...:cool:

[Bizkitkid2001]

Originally posted by Snix
Ok, to answer Grentarc's question I'm using the 28.32 Nvidia drivers. I've already installed the latest VIA 4in1 drivers. If 3785 seems a bit low for my system how would you go abouts in increasing the score?


Go to nvidias web site. They have a newer driver for your card. I think its one of the 30.xx det drivers:t

[causticVapor]

P3/733E OC'd to 800
GF2 MX OC'd to 210/185

3dMark01 SE 330 score: 1603

[Snix]

Thanks Bizkitkid, I went to the website and saw the drivers you referred to. I'll give em a shot.

[Egri]

my Score :
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4789070

cu Egri

[x51out]

Holy smokes, Egri. That P4 of yours must be sucking the sheer LIFE outta that Radeon. God help us if you ever got a 9700!:t
Btw: Welcome to SYSOPT!

[Rogue3675]

XP1800
256ddr 2100
GF4ti200 128mb
3dmark2001SE pro version@1024
9650

[Witch-Talon]

Egri Whats your base CPU speed w/o O/C?

[x51out]

At the top (of the Mad Onion page), there is a section called "description" in which Egri wrote "P4 2.8...".:t

[Witch-Talon]

EH :p Did't read everything. :p

Originally posted by x51out
At the top (of the Mad Onion page), there is a section called "description" in which Egri wrote "P4 2.8...".:t

[Egri]

@ x51out
;)
Thx
cu Egri

[Logan2002]

for the benchmark what score do I show?

I got seperate scores.

cpu 2746
memory 1552
hdd 908

total 5206

cpu tualitin 1.15ghz
1 gig sdram 133
40 gig hdd
52x cd rom
radeon 7500 LE

is this right?

[Grentarc]

Loagn2002---
That must be a PCMark score.. we are comparing 3DMark2001 scores..
----------------------------------------------
I scored Big!!!!!!!!!!
9772 3D Marks with Abit KT7A-RAID (KT133A chipset)
All with trust old SDRAM!!!
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4820227
CPU FSB: 145.61 (x2)
Mem FSB: 133.3

[x51out]

What a freaky-deaky coincidence. I got exactly the same score-9851, by an oc'd 1.4gigT-Bird at 11.5x138 and a Ti4200/128 oc'd to 275/550.:
EDIT: OOPS, where the heck did I get THAT from?? Duh...
Nevermind me, my name is mud.

[Witch-Talon]

You scored big but not at default settings. :( Try doing it at default settings and see whats your score is. :t

Originally posted by Grentarc
Loagn2002---
That must be a PCMark score.. we are comparing 3DMark2001 scores..
----------------------------------------------
I scored Big!!!!!!!!!!
9772 3D Marks with Abit KT7A-RAID (KT133A chipset)
All with trust old SDRAM!!!
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4820227
CPU FSB: 145.61 (x2)
Mem FSB: 133.3

[Grentarc]

Ineed to reformat before i can.. i cant seem to get it to pass the game test 3 when everything is selected :confused: any ideas (RAM is CL3 @CL2.... but that is only a problem with 3DMark2000... )

[Witch-Talon]

3DMark2000? But this thread are for "3DMark2001". And what is CL3 @ CL2??? And perhaps it wont let you test all default settings cause your comp are O/Ced??? That happens to serval of us failing to pass all test...


Originally posted by Grentarc
Ineed to reformat before i can.. i cant seem to get it to pass the game test 3 when everything is selected :confused: any ideas (RAM is CL3 @CL2.... but that is only a problem with 3DMark2000... )

[moedank]

17087 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4799870) :)

[Grentarc]

CL = CAS Latency

I was saying that 3DMark2000 willl crash when i try and run it with CAS 2 while 3DMark2001 SE doesnt crash. I think 2001 may crash because i have so much CRUD installed at the moment, i need a fresh install (which wont happen any time soon-- cant lose any of the stuff i have)

[michaelwest]

I score 5180 3DMARK 2001 points with this setup.

1.2 GHz Duron
256 SDRAM
Radeon 9000

(No overclocking)

[Grentarc]

Hows this then.. Standard test..... 10,112 3D Marks
SDRAM!!!
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4838081

[Qvark]

Soltek SLDRV4
XP1800
768 MB PC2100 Kingston
Radeon 8500 default clock

3Dmark 2001: 8325

[Witch-Talon]

Much better :t

Originally posted by Grentarc
Hows this then.. Standard test..... 10,112 3D Marks
SDRAM!!!
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4838081

[LiquidClown]

Wooohooo broke 10k!!!!!!!!

Gigabyte 8iexp Mobo
Pentium 2.0 ghz (northwood)
Nvidia GeForce4 Ti4400
512mb ram
40.72 detonator drivers

10,394!!!

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4851559


ALL STOCK, NO OVERCLOCKING!!!!

[Slapshot]

AMD XP2200+
512 Corsair XMS PC3000 C2
Gigabyte GA-7VAXP KT 400 MB
WD 60 Gig 7200 RPM HDD
SB Live 5.1
GF4 Ti4200

No OC
Timings
2
2
5
2
1
@ 166 Memory clock X 2 = 333MGHz

3DMark2001 SE Score

14342

DET 40 Drivers

ERRR!!!!! "THIS IS AN ERROR"

I apollogize but the above number should have read 11342

Im sorry for not getting back sooner to clear this up!!
Please FORGIVE.........

Slapshot:eek:

[LiquidClown]

slapshot- d*mn man, you have a compare link? I wanna check that out!

[x51out]

Shows what a good chipset and memory + fast processor can help a Ti4200 achieve, and yet... why am I having such a hard time actually believing that score :cool: ?

[Edward2]

:D
AthlonXP 1600+
ASUS A7V133 RAID
Maxtor D740X 40 GB 7200rpm
256 MB PC133 Micron SDR SDRAM
Aureal Vortex2
Asus 50x cdrom
ATi Radeon 7200LE AGP 4X 64MB SDR:(
ATi stock speed: 155/155 MHz (GPU/MEM) ~2903 3DMarks
OC'ed speed: 200/171 ~3243 3DMarks
OC'ed speed: 171/171 ~3350 3DMarks
OC'ed speed: 155/171 3420~3450

I think that if you give more space to the GPU for working with mem, it will be faster, cause mem can run sync with GPU, but thimk about the mem cycles that takes to relocate the data from storage to ready-to-transfer state.:D

[Grentarc]

What is the highest anyone has with SDRAM?

[jventuri]

20231


Config: athlon MP Duallie
A7MD266-DL Dual MP2200's, 3.5GB RAM DS333 ECC REG, SCSI RAID with 4 15,000rpm drives, Radeon 9700pro w/voltage mod.
Watercooled Chipset, chips, ram, video etc.
Custom case (see case mods "God Box").



O/C to 2109mhz fsb@156 - 20231 3dMark ...STABLE

JVenturi

[x51out]

This ones gotta take the cake, jventuri. If you want anyone to believe you, you should paste a mad onion compare-browser link...;)

[Sweeper]

Intel P4 2.4GHz -400FSB- (stock)
I845 (400FSB) MB
512MB PC133 SDRAM
WD 60GB HD
GF4 4600
Win. XP

3dmark score: 10075
:t

[Alex Iannuzzi]

I get 7114 3D Marks
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4820706

No Overclocking
AMD 1.2 Ghz
256 Mb DDR-RAM
GeForce 4 Ti4200 64 MB

When I tried it on my brother's computer I got about 9500.
AMD XP 1900
256 Mb DDR-RAM
GeForce 4 Ti4200

[Tanelusa]

Originally posted by Sweeper
Intel P4 2.4GHz -400FSB- (stock)
I845 (400FSB) MB
512MB PC133 SDRAM
WD 60GB HD
GF4 4600
Win. XP

3dmark score: 10075
:t
Do only I see this?:confused:

10000marks with Ti4600and 2.4GhzPennu4:confused:
There is something really wrong:eek:

[Witch-Talon]

Was thinking the extactaly same thing :eek: Should've been around 12k..

Originally posted by Tanelusa

Do only I see this?:confused:

10000marks with Ti4600and 2.4GhzPennu4:confused:
There is something really wrong:eek:

[Sweeper]

Was thinking the extactaly same thing Should've been around 12k..

For an Intel I845 400FSB SDRAM board the score is right on par. Now if I were to throw in a DDR333/533FSB motherboard you'd see 12k+. Also, that score is stock. No overclocking of anything...................... of course I could overclock the card etc. and I'm sure it would score much higher...... geeze...
:rolleyes:

[Tanelusa]

Originally posted by Sweeper


For an Intel I845 400FSB SDRAM board the score is right on par. Now if I were to throw in a DDR333/533FSB motherboard you'd see 12k+. Also, that score is stock. No overclocking of anything...................... of course I could overclock the card etc. and I'm sure it would score much higher...... geeze...
:rolleyes:

Well thing is that I with a GF4ti4200 and sdram196mb can get 9100no OC!
Now wheres the justice in that?:eek:
I have an XP1700 aka 1460Mhz:p

[Sweeper]

MB-$63.00
RAM-$42
HD-$93
VC-$212
CPU-$188

Total cost:$598.00

3DMark Score:10075

16.84 points per dollar. Not bad for a basic system. Good enough for me.

[Grentarc]

I can get 9700ish with my Athlon XP at 1900+ (by multiplier.. so its not really overclocking) GF4 Ti4200 (64mb) and SDRAM.. but with a litlle bit of ram tweaking, and fsb adjustmens i was able to go over the 10000 mark..
btw-- new score: 10,242 3DMarks with my system...

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4889928

[Grentarc]

Gone up again...
10,389 3DMarks...
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4933942

[gilerzz]

3D Mark: 6295 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4939229) :t

Got a new card. Change over the previous card, Powercolor R9000 which was faulty. Fresh installed XP Pro and everything running at stock speed. No windows tweaking & overclocking yet. Benchmark at default settings, is that good?

[Bizkitkid2001]

Originally posted by gilerzz
Powercolor R9000 which was faulty.[/B]


There was your first mistake;)

[gilerzz]

Whoops....thanks :t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

The r9000's are indeed rubbish - get a radeon 8500 instead ;)

--Jakk:t

[Bizkitkid2001]

I wasn't saying the 9000 was rubbish but that its a POWERCOLOR. POWERCOLOR is the worst brand of 3rd party ATI cards. Infact all 3rd party powered by ATI cards SUCK!!

[Bigjakkstaffa]

But the R9000 itself is no great shakes

--Jakk:t

[Sweeper]

Pentium 4 2.4GHz 400FSB @ 2.4GHz (STOCK)
MSI - MS6580 845G MB
256MB DDR266
WD 60GB HD
GF4 Ti-4600
Win XP

3D-Mark Score- 11,378
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4946124

[pandaz3]

With ATI 7200 2598, with New ATI 9000 Pro 128, 6542 a big difference for $120 US. A lot of people might think I need a couple of GF4 4600's in tandem, but I don't have that kind of a budjet actually. I am very pleased with this value. :cool:

[x51out]

10k Club (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6&projectId=4951430)

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Doesnt do anything for me :confused:

--Jakk:t

[x51out]

Severely oc'ed fsb, severely oc'ed card... 315/560. There is no other way...;)Let's try this again/10k Klub (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4951430)

[pauloh22]

i just got about 5200 with:
AMD athlon 900 mhz
msi geforce3 ti200 64mb
256 mb ddr ram
win98 se
soyo kt333 dragon lite

how much of an increase could i expect if i upgraded my cpu to an xp1600+ ?

[x51out]

You mite. But 5200 is pretty good already. Check this out:Not the Bible, but a rough approximation (http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1650)
From there, it looks as though you would NOT benefit much, but if you have the cash floating around, then why not.:t

[Witch-Talon]

Nice find on the site. Gave lot of information.

Originally posted by x51out
You mite. But 5200 is pretty good already. Check this out:Not the Bible, but a rough approximation (http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1650)
From there, it looks as though you would NOT benefit much, but if you have the cash floating around, then why not.:t

[Sweeper]

12,582
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4955906
MSI - MS-6580 845G
P4 2.4GHz @ 2.6GHz 110 FSB 1.6v
DDR266 256MB
WD 60 GB HD ATA100 7200RPM
GF4 4600 (325, 725)
Win. XP
:rolleyes:

Not bad, should be better?????????? Maybe it's the 400FSB CPU.

[andyboy110]

Specs

P4 2.0 ghz
dfi PM11 mobo
512 mb pc21oo ddr ram
radeon 8500 LE 64 Mb ddr



1024x768 32 bit 8457
640x480 32 bit 9939

[x51out]

Pushing the Limit (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4964953)
Nothing better to do than jepordize my hardware for a number...;) .

[Grentarc]

110 more points than i have.. and you have the KT266 chipset.....
i guess you need to unlock your CPU and then try overclocking it!

[x51out]

It is the AYHJA Thunderbird. Never was locked. I've tried upping the multiplier(default 10.5x133=1400), but it gives too much of a MHz increase without the gain. The only way to go to 158 fsb is by DEcreasing the multiplier from 10.5 to 10. At 10.5 I can't seem to get the fsb much higher than 152...:D . Btw, most people don't realize what an awesome board the Ak31v2.0 really was when pushed a bit. The only gripe I have is that there is a capacitor right next to the stock hsf on the northbridge so that a Crystal Orb (left over from my GF2Pro megaoverclocking days) will NOT fit, dammit.

[isamu1916]

got a 10205 no OC or tweek yet
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4906969


athlon xp2400
soyo kt333 dragon
corsair xms512mb
100gb WD 8mb

[rrugg]

I never heard of that game but I heard of 3D Astro Blaster. Is it for the XBox? I got the high school at school on Nuke Duke Em and I got the second highest score on The Grapes of Wrath 2: Gettin' Joady Wit It. Does anybody have some scores on these games?

[x51out]

Game?? You mean 3D Mark 2001 SE? Yeah dood, it's a w e s o m e game. You gotta play it sometime, but it's really hard to beat. Just joking, it's a benchmark program and not a game. Doi!:cool:

[Grentarc]

yeah.. i see what you mean then x51out - although, only having a T-Bird chip will limit your OC.... need one of these new fangle-dangle T-Bred-B chips that people are getting...:D :rolleyes:

[badgern]

P4 2.2 Geforce 4200Ti 512DDR 3D2001 = 9085
P3 800 Geforce 3 200Ti 512SDR 3D2001 = 3200
P2 400 Geforce 4MX440 512SDR 3D2001 = 1475

[Tanelusa]

Ok is this score a bit LOW for me or is it ok?I think its ok!

AmdXp1700
ATI8500LE
196MbSDRAM
40gb 7200rpm
WinXP

Score was:7202

??????????????????????????????????????:confused:

[pandaz3]

Originally posted by Tanelusa
Ok is this score a bit LOW for me or is it ok?I think its ok!

AmdXp1700
ATI8500LE
196MbSDRAM
40gb 7200rpm
WinXP

Score was:7202

??????????????????????????????????????:confused:


First it is in line, second if its okay with you, then by all means it's okay! :)

[omega31]

Ok, 2 sets of new scores for me. My P3 system used to have a gf3 ti200, but I yanked it out and put in an original geforce with 32mb sdram. I put the gf3 ti200 in my new XP 1600+ system. Previous score for P3 with gf3 was 4359. Gained 2000 points going from P3 750 to XP 1600+.

P3 750mhz
320mb PC100
Geforce 32mb sdram

3DMark Score 2066
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 35.8 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 13.9 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 34.7 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 17.0 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 35.5 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 19.5 fps
Game 4 - Nature Not supported by hardware
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 161.8 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 318.1 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 10.2 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 2.7 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping Not supported by hardware
DOT3 Bump Mapping 22.1 fps
Vertex Shader 19.8 fps
Pixel Shader Not supported by hardware
Advanced Pixel Shader Not supported by hardware
Point Sprites 5.1 MSprites/s


Athlon XP 1600+
ECS K7S5A
512mb PC2100

3DMark Score 6438
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 97.9 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 41.9 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 93.8 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 51.9 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 103.0 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 50.1 fps
Game 4 - Nature 30.6 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 586.0 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 1213.0 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 20.2 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 4.5 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping 100.2 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping 89.9 fps
Vertex Shader 57.2 fps
Pixel Shader 67.9 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader 54.2 fps
Point Sprites 13.0 MSprites/s

P3 drop from 4359 to 2066. The 4359 score was using Win2k. The other scores are in Win98se. I'll install Win2k on my new system when I have time. Also need to tweak some settings on Win98se. Haven't tweaked it as much as my older system, since the new is only a week old.

[Giblet Plus!]

11296 3D marks

MSI ti4200 64 mb @ 310 mhz core 600 memory

Amd XP2000 @ 145 fsb (1825 mhz)

MSI KT3 Ultra (kt333)

256 mb ddr2100 cas 2 (haven't unlocked the xp yet, and asynch mode sucks so the ddr stays at 2100 speeds)

Pretty good for such a cheap video card! :)

[Witch-Talon]

How can u overclock your AMD XP2000 if you haven't unlock it???

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
11296 3D marks

MSI ti4200 64 mb @ 310 mhz core 600 memory

Amd XP2000 @ 145 fsb (1825 mhz)

MSI KT3 Ultra (kt333)

256 mb ddr2100 cas 2 (haven't unlocked the xp yet, and asynch mode sucks so the ddr stays at 2100 speeds)

Pretty good for such a cheap video card! :)

[x51out]

You can overclock a CPU by increasing the multiplier or front side bus or a combination of the two. Obviously, since he has left the CPU locked (at 12.5) he cannot raise the multiplier, it stays at 12.5 all the time. But he can raise the fsb from the default 133 (12.5x133=1666) to 12.5x146=1825mhz. I get better results by increasing the fsb more than by increasing the multiplier. Reason: the multiplier only increases the CPU speed, whereas the fsb increase effects all buses (agp/pci and ram) therefore increasing overall system speed. But will also crash your whole system if taken too far.

[Witch-Talon]

Never overclocked an AMD CPU. Did't know you did't have to unlock the CPU to be able Increase FSB. I've only overclocked P4 CPU never AMD CPU. Thanks for explaining.


Originally posted by x51out
You can overclock a CPU by increasing the multiplier or front side bus or a combination of the two. Obviously, since he has left the CPU locked (at 12.5) he cannot raise the multiplier, it stays at 12.5 all the time. But he can raise the fsb from the default 133 (12.5x133=1666) to 12.5x146=1825mhz. I get better results by increasing the fsb more than by increasing the multiplier. Reason: the multiplier only increases the CPU speed, whereas the fsb increase effects all buses (agp/pci and ram) therefore increasing overall system speed. But will also crash your whole system if taken too far.

[Bizkitkid2001]

Originally posted by Witch-Talon
Never overclocked an AMD CPU. Did't know you did't have to unlock the CPU to be able Increase FSB. I've only overclocked P4 CPU never AMD CPU. Thanks for explaining.






You can OC any amd by the FSB. But certain AMDs have to be unlock to change the multiplier. The only two AMD cpus that I know of that con UNlocked are the 1.2 and 1.4ghz T'Bird.:t

[Witch-Talon]

One negative thing about FSB O/Cing is it mess up the USB Devices.

Originally posted by Bizkitkid2001




You can OC any amd by the FSB. But certain AMDs have to be unlock to change the multiplier. The only two AMD cpus that I know of that con UNlocked are the 1.2 and 1.4ghz T'Bird.:t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

You can OC any amd by the FSB. But certain AMDs have to be unlock to change the multiplier. The only two AMD cpus that I know of that con UNlocked are the 1.2 and 1.4ghz T'Bird.

My 1.33ghz Tbird came unlocked for my o/c'ing pleasures.. shame i can only get the bugger up to 1.47 :mad:

--Jakk:t

[Witch-Talon]

Increase the multiplier and push more voltage if needed.

Originally posted by Bigjakkstaffa


My 1.33ghz Tbird came unlocked for my o/c'ing pleasures.. shame i can only get the bugger up to 1.47 :mad:

--Jakk:t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Taht is with the multiplier and voltage dont help none :(

--Jakk:t

[Witch-Talon]

Voltage arent suppose to give addontial speed all it does is give cpu more power to handle higher O/C speed. maybe it's due to the mainboard limit? Few FSB speed choices and dont have high multiplier ablity.

Originally posted by Bigjakkstaffa
Taht is with the multiplier and voltage dont help none :(

--Jakk:t

[x51out]

Witch-Talon, he just wrote that his cpu was unlocked. Dude. His 1333 T-Bird was 10x133 at default, and he most likely did 10.5x140, or even 11x133 (which wouldn't really make any sense though). Jack, 137 mhz increase aint too shabby, considering the T-Bird core at our end. I can push my AYHJA 1400 T-Bird to 1596, but after that all bets are off. That is roughly the same increase as you 137/159, that is pretty close. Best boost is with fsb though.

[Grentarc]

I need PC-150 SDRAM in this beast before i can go higher... [*-deleted word-*] cheap ram wont go 2-2-2 at 150MHz, only can do it at 145....... otherwise i would get to 10400 3DMarks... and i will have to Vmod my board cos 1.85v isnt high enuf for my XP and air cooling.... anyone know if Vmem modding SDRAM works?????:t :x

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[Bigjakkstaffa]

Highest it goes is 140x10.5 and i know the voltage dont give increased speed - im saying even with the voltage raised its as unstable as Charles Manson is mentally :x

--Jakk:t

[cin587]

And here i thought my 3DMark2001 Score was low.

I got 7831 points with this setup:

Athlon T-Bird 1.33Ghz
Abit KT7A Raid Mobo
512 MB PC133 SDRAM (2x256)
AOpen Geforce 4 Ti4200 w/ 128 MB DDR RAM

Test was at 1024x768x32

I also ran it at:
1600x1200x32 and got 5500
1024x768x32 with 4x Anti Aliasing 5000

[Benssax]

Originally posted by Grentarc
I need PC-150 SDRAM in this beast before i can go higher... [*-deleted word-*] cheap ram wont go 2-2-2 at 150MHz, only can do it at 145....... otherwise i would get to 10400 3DMarks... and i will have to Vmod my board cos 1.85v isnt high enuf for my XP and air cooling.... anyone know if Vmem modding SDRAM works?????:t :x

I have Pc150 ram and can do 2-2-2 at 151mhz right now:x

[Grentarc]

[*-deleted word-*] PC-133 sdram.... only 12MHz higher and way more agressive timings than stock:rolleyes:
cin587 - What revision mobo you got?
I have the 1.3 and an XP chip, i suggest you do the same, as you could get another 3000 points or so.. i would recommend a 1600+ unlocked, and high FSB... that will get you higher

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[Tanelusa]

Ill post it here too :p

Ok is this a good score for me?:)

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5022056

Like I said with my old GF3ti200 comoon 7k!
Now I say,COMOON 8K:x
This all is with an ATI BBA Bios 275\275 no extra ram heat-sinks!
Installed older Hercules drivers and SIS AGP drivers!
And ye I have crappy SDRAM:p and 196mb of it:x

[pandaz3]

I finally stepped out of the shell and tried OC'ing. I have set 1.825 for Vcore, but the BIOS health monitor says it is 1.88 and 143 FSB for a 1502 Ghz New 3D scores at 6804.

[grimfandango]

Originally posted by Tanelusa
Ill post it here too :p

Ok is this a good score for me?:)

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5022056

Like I said with my old GF3ti200 comoon 7k!
Now I say,COMOON 8K:x
This all is with an ATI BBA Bios 275\275 no extra ram heat-sinks!
Installed older Hercules drivers and SIS AGP drivers!
And ye I have crappy SDRAM:p and 196mb of it:x

NOOOO way!!!!!
How come your xp runs with 66mhz fsb?????
:eek: :p

This is what
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5022056
says....Look under the cpu fsb!!!
CPU AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1460 MHz
FSB 66 MHz
Memory 192 MB
:eek:

[Witch-Talon]

I noticed that ECS Board tend to show FSB as 66mhz on 3Dmark2001 I'm sure theres more boards that do that too. One of my ECS k7s5a shows 66mhz. Even through it's at 266.

Originally posted by grimfandango


NOOOO way!!!!!
How come your xp runs with 66mhz fsb?????
:eek: :p

This is what
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5022056
says....Look under the cpu fsb!!!
CPU AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1460 MHz
FSB 66 MHz
Memory 192 MB
:eek:

[Grentarc]

mine sometimes (and currently) says my FSB is 0 MHz.. thats not good.....:x :t

[Witch-Talon]

Dont think there anything wrong with computer showing 0mhz it's just the program (3dmark2001) that are having problem finding accurate information. Hell I've seen some comparison with 9,000mhz FSB HAHAHA Very funny. Basicly the FSB problem is all the program not your computer.

Originally posted by Grentarc
mine sometimes (and currently) says my FSB is 0 MHz.. thats not good.....:x :t

[pandaz3]

Could it be the Idol Benchmark program isn't exactly perfect? Are there other material errors to be found? That is the Question!........ But I'm not too worried about it. It's a benchmark! :rolleyes:

[x51out]

But then, does it add the slightest bit of doubt to ALL data? Including the final score. From there, if error is applied evenly to all data, then the program could still be used. Unless the spread of error is itself error prone, i.e. one persons score is erroneous but another persons score has less error, or none at all.

[pandaz3]

Jakki the best I can do is 151 FSB and have stability, gives me a 1586 clock speed and a 3D2001SE score of 7027. That's enough till I can get a completely new system. (Not soon, No Money) :)

I thought it interesting that 151 FSB seems to be a wall for Thunderbirds :eek:

[x51out]

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4964953
Not true. By lowering the multiplier from 10.5 to 10, I was able to raise the fsb to 158. Score: 10499, not pretty, but achievable. On an AYHJA Thunderbird 1400.http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4964953

[pandaz3]

By being "not pretty" are you saying "unstable" cause I can go higher and get it to post but it doesn't want to defrag and some other things i do from time to time. and my Mobo is a little older, I don't know where to find the multiplier in the BIOS.

[x51out]

You mite not have it available in the BIOS. Check your mobo for jumpers, they are probably there somewhere along with a tiny diagram showing the different settings. By not pretty, I mean, 3Dmark2001SE runs all the way through, but 158 is nearly 20% over 133, which can't be good for the agp and pci bus.

[Logan[TeamX]]

This is with 3DMark tweaked to show how I play my games, which is everything set at 16-bit, but maxed everything else:

http://teamx.tripod.ca/pics/3Dmark2.jpg

[pandaz3]

Thanks X51, I have other machines to fall back on, but none as good as this one and I won't have upgrade money for a good while. I will be all new when I do and have this for a backup, but until AMD actually puts out stock clock 3.0 Gig CPU's I'll not get to excited, the Warden just won't budge on her budjet till then.

7027 for a 3D score is okay for a web machine. :)

[x51out]

Pandaz3, 151 is pretty high. On a normal day to day basis, I run it all at default. I just push it once in a while when I start feelin crazy. But I've had my share of blue screens and lockups and windows no-loads when oc'ing. Fortunately, I've haven't smoked any hardware yet...;) And I used to get 4200 on this very same machine with a GeForce2Pro and I thought THAT was smooth.

[Sweeper]

:)
P4 2.4GHz (400FSB) Northwood @ 2.688GHz (112FSB) 1.6v (retail HSF)
MSI 845G Max (MS 6580)
256MB PC2700 DDR333 @ 266 (motherboard drawback, only runs PC2100 DDR266):rolleyes:
Western Digital 60GB 7200RPM
GF4 4600 (320 / 720)

[x51out]

Sweeper, no offense, but you mite want to add a compare-link, you know, just so we can see the settings...;)

[her own pride]

AMD Athlon 1.2ghz

256mb Ram (DDR 266mhz)

Geforce 4 TI 4200 (O/C to 280/600)

MSI KT3 Ultra-R motherboard

Western Dig Cavier 40gb 5200

Creative Audigy

Win XP

Detonator Ver 40.72 drivers


3D Mark: 8100 @ 1024x768 32bpp


I'm pretty content with that score considering my processor lets it all down a bit.

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

14214

- EPoX EP-8K5A3+
- Athlon XP 2400+ 2.0GHz @ 2.18 GHz
- PC3200 DDR400 512 MB
- PC3200 DDR400 512 MB
- ATi Radeon 9700 Pro 128 MB
- default settings used in 3D Mark 2001 SE Pro, except for resolution (1024x768), depth (32-bit), and frame buffer (triple instead of double)
- equally balanced between performance and quality (This setting was set through the advanced settings dialog box within the Display Settings dialog box.)

Think you guys can beat that?

==============================================

General Hideki Tojo,
His Majesty's Imperial Japanese Army

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

I am using a water cooling kit from Innovatek.
I am running Windows XP Professional (no service packs installed).
I have installed ATi's latest Catalyst drivers.

========================================

Long live Japan!
General Hideki Tojo,
His Majesty's Imperial Japanese Army

[Sweeper]

14214

- EPoX EP-8K5A3+
- Athlon XP 2400+ 2.0GHz @ 2.18 GHz
- PC3200 DDR400 512 MB
- PC3200 DDR400 512 MB
- ATi Radeon 9700 Pro 128 MB
- default settings used in 3D Mark 2001 SE Pro, except for resolution (1024x768), depth (32-bit), and frame buffer (triple instead of double)
- equally balanced between performance and quality (This setting was set through the advanced settings dialog box within the Display Settings dialog box.)

Think you guys can beat that?


Nope.....:( Don't have that much $$$. With the watercooling and that Radeon 9700 Pro.... That's some serious Power and $$$. Heck you got the latest and greatest of everything. Geeze....

[x51out]

1024 mb of PC3200=big bucks. ATI 9700 Pro=big bucks. Watercooling=big bucks... dude, if I had a budget the size of the Japanese Imperial Treasury, I'd give you battle...;)

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

I'm happy with my mobo, my CPU, my water-cooling kit, my CD-ROM, my CD burner, my DVD-ROM, my DVD burner... Do you want me to list everything I have in my rig? ... Whew, I have too many stuff to mention, and I'm not BSing too... causticVapor knows I have a lot of stuff in this rig, and he can tell you too.

General Hideki Tojo,
His Majesty's Imperial Japanese Army

[Witch-Talon]

Lastest? Nope his ram isn't :D There's new one called DDR3500 433mhz ram.

Originally posted by Sweeper


Nope.....:( Don't have that much $$$. With the watercooling and that Radeon 9700 Pro.... That's some serious Power and $$$. Heck you got the latest and greatest of everything. Geeze....

[Sweeper]

Close enough........:rolleyes: Still a lot of $$$

[Grentarc]

if he had researched his cooling better, he would have gotten a VApochill or Prometia.. .lot better cooling than water

[x51out]

He's got a DVD-burner too? Dang, mon general, what are you gonna do when serial ata starts hitting the streets?

[Grentarc]

DVD burners aren't that expensive... less than 1 GB Corsair XMS-3200 C2........ only a tad more than the CPU itself!

[NOHTO]

16237 3d MARKS (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5048661)
ABIT KD7 XP2700+ AIR COOLING SLK800
RADEON 9700 PRO NO MODS
CORSAIR XMS 3200

[Benssax]

Pentium 3 @ 1.1ghz
256mb pc150
Xtasy Ti4200 128mb
Asus tusl2

3dmark 2001 se = 8120

[benknobi]

Score=12,895

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5021827


System specs for best score:
XP2000+@ 1919Mhz (12.5X153.5)
Thermalright AX-7, YSTech 80mm 50CFM/ASIII, VCore-1.95v
Shuttle AK35GTR V1.1, "J"Bios
512MB Corsair XMS3000C2
Gainward Golden Sample 650/TV GF4 Ti4200 64MB @ 325/617 (3.3ns mem)
X2 WD800JB SE 80G 160G RAID 0 array
SB Live
Cyberdrive 32X12X48 CD-RW
500W P.S.

Win98 SE
Nvidia Ref. Drv. 40.71

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

3D Mark 2001 SE = 14,214

Close but no cigar, benknobi. Has anyone tried to beat my score yet?

==========================
General Hideki Tojo,
Prime Minister, Japan
His Majesty's Imperial Japanese Army

[Bigjakkstaffa]

your score has been beaten many times over - ND posted a screenie about august time of a P4 @ 3ghz of about 15,000+

and a check at mad onion shows the real big boys are up the 20,000 end of the scale :eek:

...the big showoffs :D

--Jakk:t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Has anyone tried to beat my score yet?

Read for our five posts up:



16237 3d MARKS

by NOHTO

--Jakk:t

[Bizkitkid2001]

Don't forget about ND who posted the thread about the 20,000+ 3DMark score:t

[Sweeper]

:)
P4 2.4GHz (400FSB) @ 2.7GHz (113FSB) 1.6v 51C Retail HSF
MSI 845G Max (MS-6580)
DDR333 PC2700 (underclocked to 266 - Motherboard limitation)
GF4 4600 (325, 725)
WD 60GB 7200RPM
Sound Blaster Live
10/100 PCI NIC
Win. XP Pro

[NOHTO]

16979 3d marks (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5099952)

ABIT KD7 XP2700+ AIR COOLING SLK800
RADEON 9700 PRO NO MODS
CORSAIR XMS 3200

[unreal_outlaw]

Gen_Hideki_Tojo told ya people are packing more heat on sysopt alone

[Grentarc]

Vapochill (Classic)
XP 1700+ 1.47GHz (stock speeds)
AT7 Max2
1GB Corsair XMS 3200 C2 (at 333)
GF4 Ti4600 with peltier/water (stock speeds)
12301 3DMarks @ default

not even trying to get high scores yet
tomorrow the 2400+ goes in and the FSB hits 200, multiplier hits 10x :D
then we start overclocking the sucker!
Core temp = 1°C (evaporator not seated properly)


no link as this was a prelim test, so i decided not to save it.

[Sweeper]

13399 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5100850)

;)

[causticVapor]

Remember my post about 21504? Tojo, you can't have the best system without spending oodles and oodles on components and cooling hardware. Sir, have you gone a little bit mad? Eh? And when will you get the AS3 FCOL? :rolleyes:

[x51out]

Tojo strikes me as a fellow that will not be second in line. No offense, tojo.

[Sweeper]

Score 13540 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5125179 )

:t

[blankmange]

No clocking: 13640
With small amount of clocking: 14260

Athlon XP 2400+
Gigabyte GA-7VAXP
Volcano 9
Radeon 9700 Pro
1 Gb 333 DDR

[Grentarc]

Welcome to Sysopt blankmange!!!!!


got a compare link there for us blankmange ??;) :t

[Sweeper]

Yeah those new Radeons kill the GF4's... but the drivers ... BLAH! Nice score though! Post a compair link!!! ;)

[NOHTO]

17040 3d marks (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5163885)

[AdamP]

I have (just upgraded) to a P4 2.4A w/533 FSB, 256 MB PNY DDR 333, Asus P4PE Mobo, and GF4 Ti 4600. I just did 3D Mark the other day and it was 11600.........

:t

[Giblet Plus!]

NOHTO - Nice OC you got their. How bout showing Gen_Tojo your scores, and putting him in his place! :p

11,609 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4987971)

[Grentarc]

h*** effing dooley!!! NOHTO .. nice overclock.... what sorta cooling you got????:x :x

[NOHTO]

I'm using a Prometeia from Chip Com Con Prometia (http://www.xtwerkz.com/vapor_cooling.htm)
I should have my new Swiftech MCW50-t 80w pelt and waterblock combo for my 9700 in a day or 2 and then I should get some decent scores out of this pig. The best I can get out of the card now is 371/317. I am looking into attaching pelts for every ram (8 of them 15mmx15mm) but then I will have to make a custom waterblock for the card kind of like the one that was made for the 4600. It looks like an L and clamps the card between the 2 blocks. That and the volt mod would get me near the 19000 range I would guess. Still not up with the Pentiums but close.

[Grentarc]

ahh, yes.. the faithfull Prometeia... i will be buying the "Topless" version once they hit australian shelves......
I actually am building a vapochill based computer, which the GF4 Ti4600 is peltiered... you really need more than the average waterblock to cool the peltier down .. i only get ice on the rear of the card when the computer is turned off!!... otherwise, it is below room temp (the back of the card).... i may have to spray some waterproofing on the back, so they if i can get it cooler, it wont short out....
and with the ram... i think that design is great.. i just wish that you could buy the kit for it!!

:t

[NOHTO]

I know what a pain in the [*-deleted word-*]. I can get the Pelts $13.00 a piece, sealing the card isn't that big of a deal, but making the [*-deleted word-*] waterblock, I just don't have time for it and I don't want to go buy a expensive lathe/mill that I can't justify because I won't use it but maybe 2 times a year.

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[x51out]

Not too shabby for KT266 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5174431)
But it is reaching the ceiling. There is not much left in this hardware.

[NOHTO]

17376 3D MARKS (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5167551)
I squeaked a little more out of it. Just turned up the GPU a little.

[x51out]

I just can't compete against those guns...;)

[causticVapor]

Wow, nice NOHTO.

I'm considering a pelt for my system... namely the CPU and gfx card...

[Grentarc]

remeber causticVapor, that if you have a Geforece 4 based card, the overclocking potential is not limited by heat.. it is actually voltage that gives you the not so high overclock... sure, you may be able to hit 350 MHz on air.. but using a peltier, may only get you 10 more MHz if you're lucky... the NV25 need Volt modding, and i suspect the R300's do aswell.:t

[x51out]

No Heat, No Problem (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5178862)

[Witch-Talon]

NICE FSB SPEED! FOR AN ATHLON XP.

Originally posted by NOHTO
17376 3D MARKS (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5167551)
I squeaked a little more out of it. Just turned up the GPU a little.

[Metal_militia01]

can some 1 give me an idea of what Id likley get w/ this system im buildin?

2.4 oc i hope to 2.7
golden sample 128 mb to 300+ core and whatever is high memory(i dont really know mem. speeds 4 video cards):p
wd 40 gig 8 mb
256mb pc2700
probly the albatron 845pe board.
thnx 4 any ideas.

[x51out]

If you use semi-aggresive memory timings (as far as you can get it with your cpu oc)and bring the video card up to 300+/580+, probably 12000.

[Giblet Plus!]

12K sounds about right, with aggressive timings and a the vid card maxed out. :)

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Grentarc
remeber causticVapor, that if you have a Geforece 4 based card, the overclocking potential is not limited by heat.. it is actually voltage that gives you the not so high overclock... sure, you may be able to hit 350 MHz on air.. but using a peltier, may only get you 10 more MHz if you're lucky... the NV25 need Volt modding, and i suspect the R300's do aswell.:t


mmmm... I've considered it, but held back b/c I'm a bit leery on that kind of stuff... my soldering equipment is really old and doesn't have the precision necessary to make a fine solder on one of the VRAM pins f/i.... sure cooling only helps to a certain extent before voltage must be upped... too bad my mobo doesn't have that little jumper to up the AGP voltage :(

It makes sense that a .15-um core needs more voltage in order to achieve higher frequencies due to longer gate length etc... but...




I'm satisfied though ;) My card went from cooking to lukewarm :D and that's what really matters :D

[Grentarc]

You can do it with blunt soldering irons, just you need pure copper wire (single strand) and shrink wrap to go over the wires. then you need precision potentiometres. To solder with a large soldering iron, heat only the wire, do not touch the IC legs... you would need a VERRY high wattage soldering iron to achieve this, as you need the wire to get up to solder melting temps, all the way down to the tip.. i have done it before, but theni bought an "el cheapo" soldering iron ($30 AU) with a super fine tip... 25watt, does the job well i must admit!:t

[Sweeper]

P4 2.8GHz
Gigabyte Titan GA-81HXP
512MB PC1066 RDRAM
Radeon 9700 Pro
Creative Lab SB X-Gamer Audigy 5.1
Win. XP Pro
120GB 8MB Cache 7200RPM

Stock (no overclocking on anything), CD released Drivers for the Radeon. Nothing shut off, still had at least 10 programs running in the taskbar. (this isn't my machine, but my Fiance's sisters). I installed 3dmark 2k1 SE and just ran it. It also ran at 60Hz? I knew the Geforce drivers had problems with that but I wasn't aware that ATI had the same problems.

[NOHTO]

17860 3D MARKS (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5250524) My first run with the new MCW50-T pelt/w.c.

ABIT KD7-R
AMD XP2700+ COOLED WITH PROMETEIA -35C
256 MEG CORSAIR XMS PLATINUM 3200
RADEON 9700 PRO COOLED WITH SWIFTY MCW50-T
TTGI 520W POWER SUPPLY

[Grentarc]

nice score.. anything Vmodded yet?.. also NOHTO, any idea on the temp of your R300? I know that the GF4 ti4600 i have going with an 80w pelt is below room temp.. so obviously it will need the vmodding soon, as it OCs about only as good as air! (extra 5 MHz with peltier:rolleyes: )

Also, how does the R300 scale with a peltier? is it worth it with out modding it?
sorry about all the questions, just i am curious, as no-one i know has had the ghuts to cool a radeon like that.;)

[Grentarc]

oh... by the way, I am awaiting my new T-Bred 1700+ AUIGA CPU.. heard they hit 2GHz on air... well.. i have air and plenty of it.. (hope my V7+ can cope!) and my KT133a board will do 173MHz at the CPU, so (RAM at 145MHz - wont go higher, no matter what timings.. will do 145 @ most agressive)... i'l see if i can get the fastest SDRAM Athlon around! (with GF4 Ti4200 ofcourse!):rolleyes: :t

[NOHTO]

Ok, first nothing is V-modded yet (thats next) Going to do the GPU mod next day or two. Temps that I know of for sure are :
Water/antifreeze temp = 0 deg. F
Sensor on the back side of the Gpu (attached to the neoprene) was 44 deg. F
Also, I have a 5000 BTU/HR window air cond. blowing into side of case. Air temps 35-40 Deg. F

Before the pelt with modified heat sink on the GPU and the air cond. I could get only 370 out of my GPU. Ran the 17860 at 403Mhz no problem. I'm sure I can get more out of it. Especially with the V-mod.

[Grentarc]

you ahve heaps of potential left (if you vmod) - that is going off the GF4 type of clocking.:t

[NOHTO]

You should try the Air cond. trick. I had a duct made for the back condensor area (Rectangular going into 6 in. start collar) and I am going to run the duct to outside incorporating a 6in. booster fan. For the front I had a duct made for 2 - 4in lines that I will run into my case. Right now I have a makeshift duct blowing in the side about even with vid card. I picked mine up at Home Depot for $115.00, and the duct fan is 150 cfm and it was about $15.00.

[Grentarc]

I'm actually waiting on prometeia's to hit australian shelves....
sounds like a good idea,with the air con... i was also thinking about using a solid state car fridge ... it uses peltiers for the cooling right? well, what if you strapped one to the side of your case (and cooled the case with big fans,) you would lower he mbient temp to the temp of a fridge - around 4°C or so.... just gotta buy a fridge...:D :t

[NOHTO]

The problem with that would be the possibility of condensation forming on the sides of the case. With the air conditioner all the condensation gets removed by the coils of the air cond. After running it for about 15 hrs I had about 1 1/2 cups of water in the drain pan. Vegas has very low humidity so it isn't much of a problem, but with higher humidity levels it could definately be an issue. This site has a large variety of tecs, solid state cooling and mini air conditioners. Melcor (http://www.melcor.com/)

[ClockerNovice]

2804

P4 1.6 Ghz @ 1.67 Ghz
256mb pc2100 333mhz
Nvidia GeForce 2 w/32 mb
Windows Xp Home



My First Time BenchMarking this system,,,,are there any software tweaks to improve my graphics card?

[x51out]

Rivatuner @ GURU3D DOT COM (http://www.guru3d.com/) is a good one. Man, if you could only scratch together a few bucks for a GF4Ti4200 you'd be flying high. Oh and BTW: Welcome to Sysopt!Good bios optimization guide too (http://www.rojakpot.com/)
P.S.: I don't intend to insult your Gf2, I used to have one myself :t

[Aznmask]

my cousin's PC

Intel 2.53 533mzh
256 DD-R (pc2100)
Radeon 8500 64mb


score around 7500+ under 8000.

[Nathan G.]

New Build:
MB = ASUS P4PE (845PE chipset)
CPU = 2.4GHz P4 (533/512)
Mem = 256MB PC2700 (Crucial)
Video= Ti4400 128M DDR (Leadtek A250TD)

Score=~ 10500
nothing overclocked. (yet)
:D

[Ammok]

ClockerNovice

I get to 3200 with my G2mx400 64mb, i'm afraid only a new card will improve your scores so that you'd notice.

Bright side is come third/fourth week January all the g4's should be really cheap.

[Grentarc]

10,830 full test with XP 1700+(T-Bred) @ 1.9GHz
768MB SDRAM
GF4 Ti4200 @ 310/570
:D :D :D :D :D :D
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5277884

[ClockerNovice]

Don't worry about it x51 out,,,I was planning to replace the card,,,,but like you said wait till after Xmas,,,,,,TY for the help and the welcome

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

Here you go, fellows. (I love to benchmark my system over and over again. I hope you don't mind. :) )

[Ammok]

Only official 3d madonion scores count GenHiT, jpgs don't count.

Fraid you'll have to post a link.

[Logan[TeamX]]

Originally posted by Ammok
ClockerNovice

I get to 3200 with my G2mx400 64mb, i'm afraid only a new card will improve your scores so that you'd notice.

Bright side is come third/fourth week January all the g4's should be really cheap.

I'm waiting for the GeForce Ti 4000-series to drop some more, as here in Canada they're still over 400 for the 4600... then I might upgrade my system :)

Logan

[Ammok]

Patience friends, soon the price will drop faster than a new brides underwear.

[KODJFEI]

I got 941

HP :mad: Pavilion 6630

500 celeron
191 mB
PCI Geforce 2 MX200 (Drivers that camez int he boxs)
WIN 98SE,

Don't no if my score is any good. BUt i well be geting a new system that i well build..............:)

[pandaz3]

Go to www.driverheaven.net and look for better drivers they are out there.

My HP 6360 has onboard grafics and NO AGP slot, so it will not even run the 3D benchmark. Hey its workable for surfing, a good paperweight and even a conversation piece.

Good luck on your new machine! :)

[tranka32]

Hi gen_hideki,,, if I were to X out that mad onion screenie would I see diamond head????????

[maje87c]

Biostar M7VKD
Athlon XP 1600+
512 MB PC133
Geforce2 MX 100/200 64MB
WinXP


Score: 1579

[Ammok]

maje87c

You should be around 3200 with your set up. Try using 23.11 drivers to see if can improve your score.

[maje87c]

where would i get those?

[x51out]

Right here. (http://www.guru3d.com/files/) If this doesn't take you straight to the dl page, just find the nVidia drivers page and find any dang driver yer heart desires!:cool: .

[Sweeper]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5315592

My latest with the new Thermaltake Spark 7 HSF
I'm running the fan at 1/2 speed (nice and quiet) and it still cools better than any other of the HSF's I've tried. Though I will admit, MSI does have a problem with there temp. reading on there boards. With the Thermal Sensor attached under the Heatsink next to the CPU *using it to determine the Fan speed / Heat* the Bios shows 43c while the Sensor obviously thinks it's much cooler because it sets the fan to about 1800RPM's......:rolleyes:

[causticVapor]

Well, here are my latest scores. I've included some other benches in the pic so you can look in there as well. This is my first stride into the 166FSB world; the CPU came unlocked :D

Drivers -- 40.72

Koolance Watercooling
EPoX 8-KHA+
AMD Athlon XP T-bred A 1800+ 1.53GHz @ 1.83GHz (1.65vcore, 166*11)

2x CL2.5 PC2100 DIMMs, Kingston and Samsung:

CL2.5
333MHz
2-6-2
1.0 DRAM 0-1 timing
2T command rate
Continuous request - on
Fast R/W turnaround - on
voltage: 3.0v



PNY Ti 4200 64MB @ 293/621:

AGP 4x enabled
83MHz AGP bus
1-WS R/W
Fast writes enabled


BTW I don't know why the pic says it's not run using the default settings, but, FYI It was at 0xAA, 0xAniso, Texture sharpening off, 24-bit buffer, 1024x768x16, vsync off.

Here's the link to FutureMark:
We are Go houston (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5337145)

[causticVapor]

It keeps losing my attachments :rolleyes: :mad: Here we go:

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

I think I'll be able to overclock my CPU even more with an nForce 2 mobo (8RDA+) and two 100 GB HDDs, both from WD and have 8 MB of ca$h :D Try to shoot for 166 FSB.

!! BONZAI !!

[causticVapor]

Your cooling system and CPU are the limits, not the mobo. :rolleyes:

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Gen_Hideki_Tojo
Here you go, fellows. (I love to benchmark my system over and over again. I hope you don't mind. :) )

Link to futuremark plz :t



(I love to benchmark my system over and over again. I hope you don't mind. :) ) [/B]

:x

[Ammok]

What is the 3d benchmark for linux operating systems, anyone?

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Probably some open gl bench as linux canne use DX

--Jakk:t

[Ammok]

hmm, i'm contemplating Mandrake 9 but would like to see if there a noticeable difference between xp and linux in 3d performance.

[maje87c]

i updated the drivers, and the score was 1542 3dmarx.

[pauloh22]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5343217

thats on a -
900 mhz athlon (oc'ed to 999mhz)
msi geforce3 ti200 (400/175 to 408/200 (mem/gpu))
256 mb ram (ddr pc2100)
soyo kt-333 lite mobo
windows 98se
latest detonator drivers installed

i got 5980 marks. i think thats pretty good considering that i started at around 5100

[Kureboy99]

Using 3DMark 2001 SE with:

-1024x768, 32 bit color, DXT1 textures, and D3D Pure Hardware T&L, No Antialiasing
-Latest ATI Catalyst 2.5 drivers

Score = 12750 3DMarks

System:

-Intel P4 2.4ghz cpu (stock clock)
-Asus P4S8X mobo
-768 megs of PC2700 Kingston DDR ram
-ATI Radeon 9700 Pro video card


:t

[Sweeper]

Score = 12091 3DMarks

System:

-Intel P4 2.4aGHz cpu (400FSB) (stock clock)
-MSI G-Max (6580) mobo
-512 megs of PC2700 DDR333 Samsung ram @ 266 (motherboard limitation)
-Visiontek GF4 Ti-4600 video card

Plain run with all programs running in background. Antivirus, ZoneAlarm, etc. etc.

[Ammok]

maje

Only difference between your system and mine is the memory, I have ddr pc2100 as opposed to your 133mhz flavour. What version of drivers did you try?

www.guru3d.com has all of them, for your system I would recommend the 23.11 set. If that's what you have tried then it must be the memory that is holding you back, just find it hard to beleive the difference in scores,3200 as opposed to 1500, that's all.:confused:

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

How long will this thread continue before it gets "moved"? :D

[omega31]

Moved? Where? It's already in Benchmarking. :rolleyes:

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

Someone posted a thread in Benchmarking that had to do with Benchmarking but got moved since it had so many posts, my friend.

[pandaz3]

Benchmarking threads should stay here, some times I guess they try to "level the playing field" but that's a poor idea that I hope has been abandoned. I look here to see if some one is doing a lot better with the same equipment, to keep up if I can (I can't). It's interesting. :) I'm about 6850 3D marks:(

[Ammok]

moved to where?, "because it had so many posts", moved to the "very long thread" forum of course!! LOL.:D

Threads will only be moved if they don't stick to the original topic or don't have anything to do with the forum they are in originally. And as community posts don't count, most drivel usually ends up in there. Newbies, however, may post a hard drive question in the tech forum and get moved to the storage one where they will probably get more help, for example my friend.:-@

Isn't it entertaining how the anominity of the internet can allow us to have so many alternate personna's. :-@ :-@ :D

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Isn't it entertaining how the anominity of the internet can allow us to have so many alternate personna's.

Its easier to be a cross dresser though ;)

:eek:

:p:x

--Jakk:t

[Ammok]

I dunno, wouldn't like walk round your patch wearing a pink dress and pigtails. Come to think of it, I wouldn't like to walk round anywhere dressed in a pink dress and pigtails. mind you, doesent Hartlepool have a strong naval connection? or is just french spies that are well hung up there?:D

[Bigjakkstaffa]

I dunno, wouldn't like walk round your patch wearing a pink dress and pigtails.

indeed - around my neck of the woods even looking at someone for more than a few seconds can warrant having your teeth kicked so far down your throat your forced to eat all your meals rectally for the rest of your life :p

--Jakk:t

[Ammok]

LOL.:D

[NOHTO]

17970 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5388398)
A little screen action to go with it: Click here (http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=796088)

[stix_kua]

~9000
yay!

Intel P4 @ 2.8 GHz

1024 MB RAM

[stix_kua]

WHERE CAN I GET THE SOFTWARE TO DO THE BENCHMARK AGAIN. i LOST IT!!!i DID SOMETHING WRONG BECAUSE MY SCORE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO HIGH

[NOHTO]

3DMark 2001SE (http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark2001.shtml)

[NOHTO]

3DMark score (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5497840) 18888

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

:) Hmmm... 18,000 was your score? Well done, son. :)

[causticVapor]

18385 to be exact. :p


Well done, son. :)

What are you, his dad? :rolleyes:

[Grentarc]

I guess that is ok.... :p
What you need to do is rig up another phase change cooler for the GPU, as i have seen a vapochill used for that purpose.... and i guess the 12v compressor is suited better to the heat output of a GPU rather than a CPU...... beats an 80 or 172watt peltier any day i would think.:t

[maje87c]

6753 3dmarx.

Athlon XP 2100+
GA-7AXP mobo
Geforce3 Ti500
256MB DDR pc2700

[NOHTO]

Originally posted by Grentarc
I guess that is ok.... :p
What you need to do is rig up another phase change cooler for the GPU, as i have seen a vapochill used for that purpose.... and i guess the 12v compressor is suited better to the heat output of a GPU rather than a CPU...... beats an 80 or 172watt peltier any day i would think.:t
Yeah I would like to go with a Vapo or similar for my GPU, but even I have a limit on funds available for pieces/parts. The pelt is a little ok a lot less expensive and it's easier to install. I would think hooking up direct die cooling to a vid card and trying to seal it would be a little more difficult than hooking it up to a CPU. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind giving it a shot.
Oh yeah and I got your "son".:D :D

[Ammok]

maje

You sneaky person, you got a G3, and i bet the extra 4500 points make you feel real good.:D

I having a ti4200 after Christmas, i hope.:)

[Ammok]

sorry, 5200 points.:rolleyes:

[maje87c]

so...I payed 500 bux for another 5000 marx. Not bad;)

[Bigjakkstaffa]

$10 per mark seems kinda expensive though really :(

--Jakk:t

[NOHTO]

18888 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5497840)