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moabtwo
09-24-2001, 09:29 PM
What is the proper way to clean the ceramic and core on a cpu?

Fingers
09-24-2001, 11:01 PM
I simply use isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. You can use a rigid piece of plastic to remove large globs first. I have heard that others use acetone, but you may need to be careful because that is a solvent.

Cleaning and application instructions;
How to Apply Thermal Paste, etc. (http://www.subzeropc.com/article/thermalinterface.htm)

moabtwo
09-25-2001, 01:02 AM
I had a working cpu, and after I used isopropyl and Q-tips I have a non-functional CPU.

I thought that I had studied this enough before I cleaned it.

Fingers
09-25-2001, 07:10 AM
Is this the same probems as your last thread?

I was running a new 1.4 tbird I put in last night using artic silver for grease. No probs, all was well...shut down the box and went to restart and nothing but fans. Looked at the DLED's (MSI board) and all 4 were red which is a CPU fault.

So I cleaned up the old 1.33 with isopropyl alcohol, per artic silvers site, regreased and put that in. SAME THING!!!!
Nothing at all but fans. (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84523)

I got the impression from that statement that your PC stopped working in between reboots, not imediately after cleaning and applying thermal compound. ?!?

Graham
09-25-2001, 09:24 AM
I am beginning to wonder now, if it was the cleaning, not the damage that killed my 1.3G.
If so I think AMD should replace them.


http://www.hollies.org/athlon.jpg


G

moabtwo
09-28-2001, 05:09 PM
Thanks for all the info and links.

Yes, this is the same as my last post. The 1.4Ghz died on reboot, so I thought it may have been an artic silver issue. So, I cleaned it with Q-tips and isopropyl and found it still non-functional.

So the natural thing to do was to put the 1.33 back in that had been working with artic silver for months and no probs. NOTHING!
Did the same as the 1.4.

So I had a new build with no CPU yet and tried both chips in that and neither worked. Then I took a new 1 Ghz chip and it worked in both machines.

I returned the 1.4 for exchange since it was new. After extensive cleaning of the 1.33 I still have a non-functional chip. I can not see any physical damage or any reason why it will not work.
HELP!!!!

check this URL for pics of the 1.33
http://65.193.136.58/amdtoast.htm

the xenon
09-28-2001, 06:16 PM
Do you have to clean those?

What i did with my old pentium 200 is that i used to open the cover and clean it with a vacuum cleaner.... what... it takes all the dust out.

moabtwo
09-28-2001, 07:00 PM
You do when you use artic silver on it and it stops working!
I was going to throw it in the dishwasher, but opted not to. I guess it would not have made any difference at this point.

KennyPolo
09-28-2001, 09:21 PM
i use a swifter rag on mine when i clean it heh :)

no probs with it at all

moabtwo
09-29-2001, 01:47 AM
whats a swifter rag? Any one think the pictures look abnormal?

moabtwo
09-30-2001, 02:12 AM
Hey Graham.

I think AMD should think about replacing them too. Maybe we are just dumb (or I am), but my chip looks much cleaner than yours and it does not function.

Check the URL and would love to know what the general consensus is here.

SPEEDO
09-30-2001, 10:19 AM
If it was applied properly in the first place there would no mess to clean up!

In have seen machines that people have built with enough thermal compound on them to grease a car!

SPEEDO

Graham
09-30-2001, 11:52 AM
Speedo,
It is clean, except for the core, when I take the HS off, but the stuff spreads when you try to clean it off.

G

moabtwo
09-30-2001, 11:49 PM
I used the proper amount, like Graham said the stuff is like bacteria-it spreads.

KennyPolo
09-30-2001, 11:57 PM
it looks like a cloth

you buy like 100 for $5 at almost any store

KennyPolo
09-30-2001, 11:59 PM
put it this way.. it looks like a fabric paper towel

you cant really tell because its in a sealed box

they have diff brands..

swifter
swift it

and other names

Jeffy
10-01-2001, 12:05 AM
Oh ****. My duron 750 has arctic silver smeared all over, so i don't know if it will work ne more. But my experience is test before deciding if cleaning is necessary, which works.

KennyPolo
10-01-2001, 01:02 AM
id hold it upside down so you don''t get anything in the cpu

moabtwo
10-01-2001, 01:07 AM
Thanks Kenny, I will check it out.

Jeffy, that would be the best thing to do, but when you test it and it don't work, you end up with predicament I have here. My darn CPU won't work after test, clean, and whatever else.

KennyPolo
10-01-2001, 07:49 PM
twisting a paper towel and inserting it works pretty good with liquid spills

KennyPolo
10-01-2001, 07:50 PM
twisting a paper towel and inserting it works pretty good with liquid spills

but i think toilet paper or a napkin is probably a better choice because it is more sensetive to absorbing it, goinna suck if its a sticky liquid when it dries

Ruahrc
10-02-2001, 11:51 AM
Just a thought, but maybe you accidentally destroyed them in other ways while you were cleaning? Static chage on the pins? I had a CPU that was functional and had a dent 4x the size of yours in the corner.

Ruahrc

KennyPolo
10-02-2001, 07:34 PM
ouch howd you manage to put that dent :o

Mr. Thompson
10-02-2001, 08:38 PM
Seems to me if your CPU died before you cleaned it and another in the same board, there is a problem with your motherboard and or PSU. Proper CPU cleaning instructions can be found here. (http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm)