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pickel
09-23-2001, 10:02 AM
I suspect that unless they brought their own planes, the Good Ole Boys here in Mississippi would have some double 0 buck shot or a 30-06 waiting for one of these Arab appearing dudes trying to get their crop duster. A guy in a suit even sticks out like a sore thumb out in the country around here. But we'd welcome them to try.
:):)

ukulele
09-23-2001, 11:13 PM
I have to wonder how easy it is to create such a killer weapon and who has this capability. Perhaps we should look into land based methods of delivery also. A dispersal method placed on a strategic hill in the right wind conditions could be equally devistating.

Banti
09-24-2001, 10:01 AM
From what I understand, these weapons are REALLY hard to use. Sunlight kills/breaks down the agents. Also it will disapate in the atmosphere. Remember when that gas was released in the Tokyo subway during the rush hour. This is one of the most crowded, cramped places known, and an agent would be a perfect way to kill hundreds of thousands (assuming the movement of the trains would blow the agent throughout all stations). The grand total was something like 12 dead and several hundred got sick. Provided this should have nver happened, but bio-warfare is not as scary as we think it is.


Banti

DiscoLando
09-24-2001, 10:50 AM
From what I've read about the Tokyo incident, the only reason there weren't more casualities is because the group that mixed the compound together didn't do it properly. If they had a better mixture, many hundreds or thousands would have been killed.

I think Bio-warfare is an incredibly dangerous proposition and should be one of the biggest priorites for the anti-terrorism movement. Unlike conventional, or even nuclear, a biological agent will spread like wildfire well after the initial attack.

Banti
09-24-2001, 10:53 AM
That is what I mean. The mixture has to be really good or perfect to get the results. Screwing things up during prep, is another big hurdle.

Banti

rmb
09-24-2001, 01:25 PM
Any semi-intelligent idiot with enough cow feces and the right conditions could produce anthrax spores. That being said, there are vast differences in the quality of said spores. Kinda like weed grown in New Jersey versus someone who knows what they're doing in Columbia. Spores that you or I could generate in a basic lab wouldn't match the strength or reliability of a billion dollar government funded operation. Sarin gas is also easy to make but much harder to distribute correctly without destroying it.

We don't need to focus on the weapon. But that's what this country always does. Blame the gun, blame the airport security, blame the violent video game. There are a million weapons from box cutters to tactical nukes that could ruin your day. We need to focus on how to identify individuals who are likely to kill thousands of innocent people. We need to understand where the WILL to hate and destroy comes from. Where there's a will, there is always a way....

What a horrible time this is....

-RMB

Spartan
09-24-2001, 04:09 PM
could lead to an estimated 250,000 casualties, of whom as many as 100,000 could be expected to die

Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't casualties dead by definition?:confused: :confused: :confused:

Sturek
09-24-2001, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Spartan


Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't casualties dead by definition?:confused: :confused: :confused:

Nope. Casualties refer to dead and injured people.

Banti
09-25-2001, 09:13 AM
Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't casualties dead by definition?


Fatalities are dead by definition.

I have debated the deference many times with people thanks to the movie Casualties of War

Banti