What would be your dating advice to this young pup?
A lot of guys are telling me to go for the prettiest women you can find. They say those women are the most loneliest because guys are intimidated by them.
A lot of women tell me to go for the ugly and/or fat women because they play less games, and I can get some experience. Plus, those women have friends you can meet.
Target
06-08-2001, 08:55 AM
I'd say first off, don't listen to what anybody else tells you to do.
You're talking about something that should be personal and unique just for you.
Only you know who/what you are attracted to, and meeting people and gaining experience can come in all shapes, styles, colors, etc.
And trust me, as you get older, you will realize that beauty on the inside is just as important as beauty on the outside.... sometimes even more so.
Use your heart and your head young grasshopper, but don't let opinions of others blind you to the possibilities that lie in all of the opportunities available.
S.D.Willie
06-08-2001, 08:58 AM
i whole hearted-ly agree with target on this one. as a matter of fact im currently dating a swashbuckling one legged gap-toothed warrior princess who loves manowar and blade of darkness. ok, so im kidding with the second sentence but the 1st one is true. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif
SD
surrealchereal
06-08-2001, 09:05 AM
a swashbuckling one legged gap-toothed warrior princess
Wow! I am so glad to hear you're kidding! I was concerned that there were two of us out there! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif
HomeYield
06-08-2001, 09:12 AM
Dating is like russian roulette. You can keep trying and keep trying only to come up with blanks but sooner or later...
WHAM!!!
you find one that just blows you away. You never expect, you say "This can't happen to me," but buddy one thing is for sure, its different for everybody. Just try your luck and hope for the best.
Richard_Cranium72
06-08-2001, 09:18 AM
Place yourself in a "Target Rich Environment" that way there are more to choose from..
i.e. college, church, YMCA, ball clubs, dance clubs etc.
The most fun I remember at a club was at a "non-drinking" disco in Los Angelos, or was it San Diego, I forget,, anyway the ratio was like 80% Women to 20% Men http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Go for a combination.
Looks, need to be normal with hopefully both legs the same length.
It also helps if their arms and knuckles don't drag the ground when they walk.
Bottom line here, you'd rather not have a total freak either a 10.9 or a circus clown.
Stay in the middle
Health, mucho important.
Listen carefully, if they have multiple health problems,, PASS
Women love to talk about that, pay attention.
Cash, if Daddy has paid for everything all their life and they never had to work for anything, PASS
Look for one who has a desire to be somewhat successful, but not a workaholic.
Just a steady paying job, or the desire to have one.
If they did NOT learn the most rudimentary things while in school, or perhaps just dizzy about the whole world, like
they're amazed that a car has a little thingy to tell how far it's been since the last oil change, and "What's a Oil Change"
PASS
Listen carefully to "tone" of voice
How they talk about others, or talk TO their Mother & Father.
You don't want a smart *****
PASS
Watch them drive
Do they show hostility at other drivers for common mistakes.
Do they let others out in traffic or cut them off when at all possible.
This may take some time as we all have bad days.
**IMPORTANT**
Be Aware that every 28 days a woman has very little control of her emotions, behaviors, and to a lesser degree their actions.
If you get the information of when her period STARTS, mark down on the calender that day.
OK, now listen..
Exactly 5 days PRIOR to the start of the menstral cycle you need to be extra nice.
Flowers are a big plus, Hand picked works wonders..
Perhaps a $2.00 card saying, "HI to a Pal see ya"
If your observations of her are negative, just make double sure that they did NOT occur during the 5 day PMS(pre-menstral-cycle)
otherwise, you may make a very fatal error in judgement as those days are OFF-LIMITS to the true character of the lady.
I'm like ,, OLLD
Many times I've recanted and changed my mind about the looks of a individual, especially after getting to know them better.
I have had real lookers turn to Yetch after learning about their poor disposition.
Likewise, I have seen so-so girls turn to beauty queens after learning more about them.
Sometimes all that stands between a "invisible" girl and a Queen is , $0.45 of Makeup, a $10.00 sundress and Attitude.
And beauty isn't about make up - sun dress....it all about attitude!!!!!
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surrealchereal
06-08-2001, 09:34 AM
Place yourself in a "Target Rich Environment" that way there are more to choose from
Uh, doc? Where can I find one of those?
oops so..
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Target
06-08-2001, 09:35 AM
ROFL LMAO Doc....... You can tell that you've been around a while and had some real-world experiences http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
You've got that same jaded attitude I can relate to sometimes.
However you helped to make my point clearer than what I wrote. I quote:
"I have had real lookers turn to Yetch after learning about their poor disposition."
"Likewise, I have seen so-so girls turn to beauty queens after learning more about them."
"Sometimes all that stands between an invisible girl and a Queen is , $0.45 of
makeup, a $10.00 sundress and Attitude."
Amen brother!
BBA
06-08-2001, 09:51 AM
Definitely go for the target rich environment.
Work is a good place to start...if they aren't there...look for a job elsewhere ( J/K...well, maybe not really kidding...)
Anyway, do not go out of your way to meet 'the girl'. You will do much better finding the girl where you enjoy hanging out...and if they are not there, find somewhere else you enjoy hanging out where they are at. This puts you at a point of common interest...which is more important than how hot she is in a bikini.
zskillz
06-08-2001, 10:46 AM
hahahaHAHAha that's a riot doc - but I don't think you can buy any sort of makeup for .45 anymore. I dated a girl once who didn't wear a lot of makeup, but when she did buy the stuff every couple of months, it cost her more like $45. sheesh.
I think that HomeYield summed it up pretty well. it's like russian roulette. This semester alone, I have dated 4 different girls for about a month each.
1 turned out to have some baggage that wasn't worth my time dealing with
2 turned out to be promiscuous (sp?)
3 already had her degree, was attractive, fighteningly intelligent, and seems to know exactly what she was doing with all parts of her life. I don't know why and I don't have a good reason, but for some reason it just didn't click for me. this was the first girl that I've dated that I could actually have an intense intellectual conversation with, but for some reason, instead of looking forward to seeing her, I was more concerned with what excuse I was gonna come up with so I could go to the bars with my buddies instead. oh well... on to number 4
4 is great. it's sort of wierd though... she's 4 years younger than me, and even though she is, I love hanging out with her. I think perhaps what I like most is that she seems to recognize that I'm a fairly independent person and that I don't always want to be doing something with her. I have a lot of other friends that I enjoy haning out with also. anyway, we'll see what happens with this one... it's only been about a month or so
well, the point was to show you that it really is sort of like roulette. I've dated so many girls in the last 3 years that I can't even count - some only one date, others much longer, but in the end, u usually just know if it isn't right! so good luck dog
-Z
just remembered... it can't hurt to go for the girl that is the most attractiv to you... #4 is this hot little red head and I love it when my friends give me that big grinning look of approval when I introduce them to her...
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dafremen
06-08-2001, 11:22 AM
Let's hope she only uses $0.45 on her face though z and not the whole $45.(Which is what I THINK Dr.V meant.)
As for the target rich environment, I agree completely.
The friend who is telling this guy that sometimes good looking girls are lonely because guys are intimidated by them has a point. But it doesn't always hold true, many attractive girls get hit on ALL the time. Just depends upon how approachable they appear to be.
I always used to do well with the plain janes that were surrounded by attractive friends. Even though they weren't ugly, the contrast provided by their drop dead gorgeous friends usually made them less popular targets with the guys. Everyone else's loss was usually my gain.(makeup and a sundress..yea that sounds about right Doc.)
Ziz
06-08-2001, 11:28 AM
I have another theory on how women decide if they're interested in you...
Women have an area of the brain - there may be a functionally similar area in men - called the "man-o-meter". The "man-o-meter" compares the size of a man's ***** to the size of his paycheck. Ideally, each should be as large as possible. However, in circumstances where one of them is excessively huge, that's usually regarded as adequate compensation for the smaller of the two. :p
In all seriousness though, the point everyone is making is psychological/emotional profile first, physical profile second.
dafremen
06-08-2001, 11:36 AM
That wasn't my point at all.
My point was get one as good looking as you can manage. Then if she turns out to be a b*tch, dump 'er.
I mean of course you want someone with a charming personality, but if you aren't physically attracted to her you're STILL going to be missing half of the relationship.
Looks AND personality BOTH. But to be sure, the easiest of the two to judge while still at a distance are the looks. So we can check one of the two off of our list before we've even MET the person in question. Then if they don't have the OTHER half (personality) move on.
Looks will naturally and invevitably come FIRST.
Warthog
06-08-2001, 01:09 PM
Confidence
THAT'S all you need.
I'm no big looker of a guy, but I can make plenty of friends with girls (who I wish to be friends with) by confidence and being myself. If they cannot except my own, original self, I cannot except them.
Warthog
PS - don't confuse the Big C word with ego, which is what you stay away from.
kenyg
06-08-2001, 05:34 PM
This is all I know about women -
"They're smarter than us, and they don't fight fair"
- Jack Nicholson
Richard_Cranium72
06-08-2001, 06:03 PM
Women have more power than men.
They control all the sex and all the money.
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surrealchereal
06-08-2001, 06:32 PM
http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif
Gomer
06-08-2001, 10:30 PM
Warthog: Confidence????? What ever happened wth you and the "Donut Shop Girl?" Shall I dig up that thread? http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif =)
Warthog
06-08-2001, 10:41 PM
LOL Gomez http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
That fizzled to say the least....one of those super duper crushes. Don't get me wrong, I still think she's hot http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif but I don't really have a desire to talk to her anymore (I've learned she has the whole high school, I'm all that attitude - not my style).
Hey, and that was a YEAR ago (almost) I've been there done that with somebody else my age of the female variety (using CONFIDENCE http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif) hehehehe who is actually somebody I talk to and who talks to me.....dang man, know you got me going. What's funny is this has been on my mind a lot.
This girl actually wants to DO SOMETHING over the summer! And she was ENTHUSIASTIC about it to! She signed my yearbook *blushes* and wrote some "personal" stuff in it....she said that we should get together over the summer, "work sucks, you can cut a few days for me" - her words in yearbook. LOOK at the last two words...hehehehehehhehehe I feel giddy. I'm glad you brought this up, Gomer, you sly dog you. Also, there was also a heart next to her name , meaning this -> "Love, [girls name]" (heart = "love")
So there! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif
I just wanted to tell all you guys...heck, I needed "somebody" to blab to anyway.
Warthog
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cedar2
06-08-2001, 11:14 PM
Depends what stage of experience you are at, or to phrase that differently, which head is doing the thinking. Until you've got the little head's big itch satisfactorily scratched, go for all of them. Like the fisherman, you don't catch fish unless your hook is in the water.
If you are using the big head, look for the ones that really meet your eye when you look at them. The more they smile (not just at you), the better. The less status-conscious, the better, same for trendiness. The one that doesn't need loud noise and tight clothes (or lack thereof) to get your attention will make you happier in the long run, remembering that not every run is a long run. Really important is being able to have a conversation with them - most of your time will be spent doing that so if it doesn't work, you're in the wrong place.
As warthog said, confidence is by far and away your best approach. It will attract more women to you than you could chase down in two lifetimes without it.
surrealchereal
06-09-2001, 12:24 AM
The "man-o-meter" compares the size of a man's ***** to the size of his paycheck. Ideally, each should be as large as possible
This made me really sad when I read it. I see that media and current blathered opinions of value to society have been almost as devastating to men as women. The good thing for you guys is, your "supposed" value is less obvious than the woman's "supposed" value.
Just for the record, she needs a big paycheck only if she has a big empty bank account, same holds true for the other too....
radbasa
06-09-2001, 01:30 PM
I'd say women were designed by Microsoft.
1. Crashes a lot of times.
2. Interface is easy enough until you dig a little deeper and hit the registry.
3. You have to replace them once in a while to have some stability.
4. Takes a while to recover after an unproper shutdown.
5. Add too much stuff you want and stability suffers.
****, we've to replace the Genesis creation story.
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Warthog
06-09-2001, 10:48 PM
oooooh wait 'til socalgal sees that http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif
club_med
06-10-2001, 12:05 AM
Listen to your heart with guidance from your brain.
When your somewhere and you see a girl that attracts you, whether opticaly or character wise, approach her, forget the macho ****, just be yourself, be polite, and honest about your intentions.
The rest will happen by itself.
cm.
mybestinternet
06-10-2001, 10:02 AM
Hey if you want someone to be nice to you and treat you well I would say go for a girl who is a little bit bigger. ie 5500lbs and above. That shuld work...
-mbi
oh yea im just kidding. hahahahahahaha
Gomer
06-10-2001, 04:52 PM
ya called me Gomez Warthog... Gomez???? Did I turn Spanish all of a sudden? hehe =)
LiLRiceBoi
06-10-2001, 09:37 PM
its kinda ironic...
I'd say first off, don't listen to what anybody else tells you to do.
then theres a whole bunch of advice after that line...
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krusty the klown
06-11-2001, 03:33 AM
You will find that the women you like are with someone else - this is like dropping buttered toast on the floor. Ignore all thoughts that something may happen between you as it's not uncommon for these people to lull you into a sense that something may happen. It won't. Presumably, they do this for some sort of entertainment, I'm honestly not sure. This is the 'c0cktea$er' - to be avoided at all costs, unless you like being strung along.
You will also find that when you are with a woman (not necessarily 'having a relationship' with - can be just 'walking along' with), absolutely gorgeous women will notice you. They would have never given you a second look, had you been alone.
CMonster
06-11-2001, 07:13 AM
The way I understand it things go like this:
A California man finds a bottle with a genie in it and upon rubbing the bottle the genie pops out and offers to grant a single wish:
Genie: I will grant you one wish.
California man: I hate to fly and I want to be able to drive to Hawaii, so make me a 5 lane highway to Hawaii.
Genie: Are you out of your mind? that is WAY too difficult, ask for something simple.
California man: Okay, make me to understand women.
Genie: Did you say you wanted 5 lanes on that highway?
Warthog
06-11-2001, 07:19 AM
haha Gomer I was wondering if you'd notice that http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif
lol Cmonster
Warthog
LemonHead
06-12-2001, 01:51 PM
Alas a love of Radiohead has me destined to a lonely life...
I'm not into all that weird rock stuff like RAGE (neh, the star thing dont work!) and Slipknot, and i'm not into Dance music either, which rules out any form of clubbing. Just goes to show how much music influences my life. I can get on with them (lol @ "THEM" (AAAGH!! look out its *THEM*) but can't really seem to take it farther.
Furthermore I haven't really been besotted with anyone to the extent that i felt the need to get out there (i.e. outside my computer room) and try my damndest.
lol i just realised that theres an Ad for intel gigabit server adaptors saying "Click here for trail kit" hmmm, or maybe trial kit? yes i think so
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