my apology's to chinese resteraunt owners ,and harry chapin.
check out chinese reseraunt at.
http://www.512productions.com/
(not my site or movie.)
nunya
Warthog
02-17-2001, 09:33 PM
Did you know Chinese eat dogs?
Anyways...
What is this site? 56k takes long time to load.
Warthog
sharder8
02-18-2001, 10:48 AM
Warthog -- "Cats in the Kettle"!!! Based on the song "Cats in the Cradle". It's kind of funny, being a cat lover and all. I also have a 56k connection, usually at 24k, and my sister e-mailed this to me. It only took a few min. to down load.
Now for a little info on East L.A.! I used to command an Army Reserve truck company out of S. El Monte, and I'd noticed that there were never any stray dogs or cats around. My brother-in-law (a trucker) stopped by one day to tell us what he'd witness the night before. Seems he had a delivery in that area of L.A. and since he had arrived at about 1am, (delivery was at 5:30am) he parked along the street across the street from an Oriental Restaurant to get a couple hours of sleep. At about 2:30am, a van pulled up to the Restaurant and 2 guys got out. They took 4 dogs on leashes out of the back of the van and went into the place. About a hour later, they came out minus the dogs and left!
Now you know why there aren't any stray dogs in E. L.A.
Harder
randy48
02-18-2001, 11:56 AM
The health deparment closed down a Chinese resturant here alomst a year ago...they walked in on them butchering dogs! Three months later (still closed) the place burned down...accident-kitchen fire!
Warthog
02-18-2001, 02:21 PM
Is that site really about dogs in Chinese food?! huh.....didn't even look at it (just 1st page).
Warthog
sharder8
02-18-2001, 02:34 PM
CMonster --
I didn't see anyone bashing here!! IMHO, your reading too much into it!
Everyone has their own tastes and I for one, will not bash them for it (unless it's cannibalism)!! Some people think I'm strange for eating porcupine, beaver, rattlesnake, etc. Oh, I forgot, I have recipies for skunk and rat, but I don't have the courage or desire to skin and cook one, let alone eat one!
Harder
nunyadam
02-18-2001, 03:07 PM
cats in the kettle is still available at the above site .
it is a flash animation parody of harry chapin's ,cats in the cradle .
personaly i thought it was funny. I thought some others would also.
as far as what type of meat you eat i don't care what you eat as long as it's not me or my family.
randy48
02-18-2001, 03:19 PM
CMonster, I've ate dog and liked it! Join the service and go to Korea, first thing the "old timers" do is take you downtown for something to eeat and a shot-of-leg. Blow their minds and order seconds on the chow!
thekingofpain
02-18-2001, 03:33 PM
If it can smile, I aint eatin it...
surrealchereal
02-18-2001, 05:23 PM
Hmmm, KOP, that's an interesting rule.
http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
Well guy's you'rE invited for dinner, I was thinking of cooking up that foam target deer that was taken out by the spud gun over on the road rage topic....
Any takers? http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif
It's just the fact that in America we have a dog as a pet. You normally don't eat your pets.
Warthog
Ptrper
02-18-2001, 09:12 PM
The reason why I have a dog is for in case I am out of food and there is a need to eat it. For you folks that are squeemish about eating flesh, don't eat. Having been hungry in the jungles of South America, you would be surprised at what you would eat...
BTW, I've never seen a dog smile.
Ed
CMonster
02-19-2001, 12:25 AM
Chinese Restaurant video clip no longer available at link
No matter, I've been to Asia and seen it all... While I will say that a filthy kitchen is a terrible thing, so also is a burger shop employee blowing snot into your food or selling ecoli infested meat.
However, there is nothing wrong with eating dog anymore than any other animal. I am certain that if some of those individuals who are making the most noisy objections were starving they would push to the head of the dog-b-que line.
If eating the flesh of other creatures bothers you then become a vegitarian.
All this "they eat dog" bashing shows cultural ignorance, intolerance, and possibly racism. Instead of worrying about which animals people eat why not take an active part in caring for the homeless people in your community?
My personal slant on this issue is that if we weren't meant to eat animals they wouldn't be made out of meat.
"If it walks, crawls, swims, or flys I'll eat it - as long as it's cooked until there's not a vitamin left in it!
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CMonster
02-19-2001, 05:51 AM
My apologies if the original link had nothing to do with perpetuating racial sterotypes, but elements of the thread did appear derogatory. This is of particular annoyance to me as I am somewhat steeped in Korean culture and tradition.
"Did you know Chinese eat dogs?
" -Warthog
Do ALL Chinese eat dog? Does this reflect the eating habits of law abiding Chinese Americans?
"Seems he had a delivery in that area of L.A. and since he had arrived at about 1am, (delivery was at
5:30am) he parked along the street across the street from an Oriental Restaurant to get a couple hours of sleep. At about
2:30am, a van pulled up to the Restaurant and 2 guys got out. They took 4 dogs on leashes out of the back of the van and went
into the place. About a hour later, they came out minus the dogs and left!
Now you know why there aren't any stray dogs in E. L.A." -sharder8
Do we assume that the dogs were butchered and eaten and do ALL "Orientals" eat dog? Can we assume by this that an Asian American is "Oriental" and therefore must eat dog? Just exactly what do comments like this connotate?
"The health deparment closed down a Chinese resturant here alomst a year ago...they walked in on them butchering dogs!" -randy48
While this (for now) unsubstantiated claim could certainly be true, inserted in this context it supports the stereotype that Asians are dog-eating barbarians.
I think we should note also that Native Americans have also been known to eat dog. Does this mean that ALL "Indians" eat dog?
Furthermore, unless forced by starvation, Asians do not eat their pets either. Typically the dogs used for food in asia are bred for that purpose, where eating dog is not out of the ordinary.
Now I realize that doing business here in the US means abiding by all health ordinances and local laws, and rightly so. But I respect the cultural differences enough not to create racial stereotypes based on them.
ADD NOTE:
Nobody wants to be "treated like a dog" but I have a problem with a society that assigns a dog's "rights" to the status of a human being. Several years ago, a man in California was fined $50K for kicking a puppy but similar crimes against people are let off with a slap on the wrist.
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dafremen
02-19-2001, 06:53 AM
I've always told my kids not to knock a food til they've tried it. I think I'd eat some dog. Why the heck not? I've eaten squirrel, squid, frog, snake, alligator, snails, oysters, ostrich, kangaroo and pigeon. I've eaten tripe, brains, pig feet, tongue(yuck!) and hell we all eat HOTDOGS for gawd sakes. So what's a little dog. I mean I suppose I'd prefer a dog that had been RAISED as a food animal, but most American dogs are spoiled to death anyhow so I imagine they're rather plump and tasty. Sure gimme a few dog steaks, or a dog stir fry. Maybe some Bowwow Burgers and some fries on the side. I wounder how dog tastes deep fried? Think about it...most dry dog food is 80% grain anyhow..grain fed pooch. Mmmm mmm delicious.
Hey gimme the addresses to some of those restaurants. Screw the Health department! Fascist bastages!! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
8) Daffy
P.S. Next up..Uncle Daffy's Cooking with Kitties!
NDC
02-19-2001, 07:13 AM
I could care less if Chinese ate worms for desert or Iranians ate sheep's eyes for breakfast. That's just simply food culture! Many of us eat beef everyday which is a regular diet, but in some parts of the world, eating beef is considered inhumane! What you eat is your preference. If you don't like it, don't eat it! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif
surrealchereal
02-19-2001, 03:19 PM
Cmonster, thanks for the clarification. I was actually surprised when you didn't mention that in your first post. I was not positive that is was only in the Korean culture and not in some other Asian cultures, and assumed I was wrong when you didn't respond to the issue.
Nobody wants to be "treated like a dog" but I have a problem with a society that assigns a dog's "rights" to the status of a human being. Several years ago, a man in California was fined $50K for kicking a puppy but similar crimes against people are let off with a slap on the wrist.
Yeah, like his wife, she is not hauled off to a safe shelter where a home in a loving environment is found for her until her body and psyche heals, making her better able to make sound decisions. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif
dafremen
02-19-2001, 03:38 PM
Yea but what a BUNCH of HYPOCRISY!!! We're appalled that he beats his wife but he gets punished more severely if he beats his dog.
However folx are appalled if he eats his dog,
and he gets punished more severely than when he "eats" his wife. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
8) Daffy
P.S. I couldn't resist!!
P.P.S. Chereal...you must BLATHER (http://blather.newdream.net/) with me..
OuTpaTienT
02-19-2001, 04:10 PM
CM: My personal slant on this issue is that if we weren't meant to eat animals they wouldn't be made out of meat.
So you're saying it's ok to eat people too? After all, we are meat as well. And please don't bring up the incorrect argument of what one would eat if they were literally starving. What one must do to survive in a life/death situation has nothing to do with what is accepted in scociaty.
Also, I see no "bashing" as you say that prompted your over-reaction.
Now I realize that doing business here in the US means abiding by all health ordinances and local laws, and rightly so. But I respect the cultural differences enough not to create racial stereotypes based on them.
Now I don't think I'm stupid, even though I have my moments, but honestly I have NO IDEA what you mean by this quote. Are you saying it's ok to serve dog in the Korean resturaunt down the street? If "down the street" is here in the USA, then NO it's NOT ok.
If people want to eat dog in their country, where it's an accepted and normal practice, then fine. I don't care. Hell, eat your first born child too. Chow down. Just don't do it here, ok? Likewise, if I ever travel to India you won't catch me ordering a Filet Mignon.
---- ---- ----
And back on topic: Did you guys seriously find the animation funny? I'm sorry, but it was not funny. I tried. I gave it many chances to humor me. It just wasn't happening. I found it somewhere between kinda and very lame.
And don't poo poo the idea that a cat lover can't have a sense of humor about the subject. I think my support of the Bonsai Kitten (http://www.bonsaikitten.com) web site (by mirroring it at my own web site) goes a long way toward showing my openmindedness.
-OuT
dafremen
02-19-2001, 05:17 PM
I didn't SEE the animation.I'll give it a look. However I think the idea of my considering eating dog so flippantly is HILARIOUS!
8) Daffy
justy
02-19-2001, 05:45 PM
Its them or us!
Nobody read "Animal Farm" George Orwell.
All the best, Justy.
Edit: I knew there wasn't a Gorge Orwell?
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CMonster
02-20-2001, 07:18 AM
OuTpaTienT - First part of what you quoted from me is a bit of a joke, satire, a twisted bit of humor - a litterary device designed to lighten up what otherwise might have been too serious of a reply, or to shift the focus enough so that the seriousness of the topic might not be wholey rejected at face value -surely you have shown yourself enlightened enough to understand that interjection; like a bumpersticker that says "I love animals - they're tasty!"
The second part of that quote is as it stands. There is not a mixed message there. I state quite forthrightly that foreigners must indeed abide by local laws(period). But the subject of that two sentence paragraph is actually about not sterotyping in a racist manner based upon a cultural ignorance of food... sorry if my use of the english language did not make the subject clear in the first sentence.
None of what I said had anything to do with eating people.
CMonster
02-20-2001, 09:54 AM
CM - www.ceramicsmonthly.com (http://www.ceramicsmonthly.com) - one of my favorite magazines! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif
dafremen
02-20-2001, 01:39 PM
If you scroll up a few posts, you'll see that I've already started on your list, ie snakes and pigeons.
I'm afraid I must take issue with the idea that Dogs and Cats are NOT nuisance animals. ANY animal that is taken under human care and kept as a pet is not really a nuisance animal, even those on your list. On the flip side, many animals INCLUDING dogs and cats can become nuisance animals if left to survive on their own. Feral dogs and cats are a huge problem in some countries (including our own) and are hunted, collected and disposed of on a routine basis throughout the world.
As for the emotional disposition of animals, I think it could be argued successfully that ALL animals smile in their own way. Hell even that big snake sunning itself on a warm rock must certainly be viewed as having his own serpentine version of a smile on his face(or wherever snakes display those types of things) It is KNOWING that an animal is happy, or at least content that allows humans to personify them and put "smiles" on their faces.
As for our poor animal friends the chicken and the cow, I can only imagine that if they are depressed it is because they are resigned to watch their relatives slaughtered willy-nilly while they continue to provide humankind with useful food products(eggs, milk). Meanwhile practically useless animals like dogs and cats are treated like royalty and given their own cemetaries.
8) Daffy
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OuTpaTienT
02-20-2001, 01:56 PM
I really don't understand why you're so ADAMANT that eating dog in the U.S. of A. should be wrong.(or perhaps what you're saying is that it IS illegal, in which case my apologies for the misquote.)
Hmmm, you'd think something that I was "so ADAMANT" about would just logically also be so obvious that you wouldn't have to wonder if perhaps my perspective were "this or that".
It so happens it is "that". My stance was from the point that it's not legal in this country.
As for your whole "solution", I think either you didn't put very much thought into it or you really are a sick individual. (keep reading)
Let's say it were legal to eat dog/cat/whatever here. I don't necessarily discount that idea, if that's what the people of this country wanted then so be it. And if that were the case I would expect there to be animals raised for just this purpose as there is now with beef/pork/etc.
But your scenario of someone discarding their domesticated pets by taking them to a butcher is completely outlandish. Animals that have been bred to be pets or companions, and have already spent their life being a pet should not be considered food. This is wrong on so many levels I'm astonished that none of them triggered any red flags for you. Well, astonished or scared. To me, someone that thinks the solution to stray or unwanted pets is to eat them has got to be so demented I don't even want to think about what else might be swimming around that mind of yours.
BTW, good luck getting such things legalized in this country.
dafremen
02-20-2001, 02:45 PM
Heheheh Daffy strikes again!
Presenting the outlandish and ridiculous in a realistic and believeable manner is what Daffies do best! Gotcha!
8) Daffy
P.S. Mmmmm kitty pizza!!!!
OuTpaTienT
02-20-2001, 04:07 PM
Um, WTF-ever.
I'm not quite sure how this qualifies as "gotcha". I mean, you presented yourself as a sick, twisted individual...then I called you on it, and as tactfully as I could, called you a sick, twisted individual. Where's the "gotcha"?
Maybe the "gotcha" is the fact that really you're not a sick, twisted individual? Shyeah, good luck convincing me of that.
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dafremen
02-20-2001, 04:51 PM
Ohh I never said I wasn't twisted...heheh my sense of humor pretty much makes proving that an open and shut case in favor of YOUR opinion. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
The gotcha I guess was in starting with a REALLY sarcastic piece that involved my wanting to try dog and continuing with some of the most ridiculous (and only) drivel I've ever written on the subject. Then having you buy it! I'm actually quite proud of both of us!! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
You played the part of the appalled reader EXTREMELY well, and I'm hoping that I played the part of the twisted dog meat craving sicko EQUALLY as well. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif
8) Daffy
P.S. Come play some Q2 with me and you can even the score! (Rail ONLY!!) http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
OuTpaTienT
02-20-2001, 08:58 PM
So. You like to play, do ya? Alrighty then, we'll chalk it up as "I owe you one". <IMG SRC="http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif" border=0> I'm not one to hold grudges, heck even when I want to remain ticked at someone I can't do it. The seriousness of things just fade in time. But, I'll be sure to make a note in my running notes file. Nothing detailed, just a simple reminder, maybe something like:
dafremen 1, me 0 - when he's not looking, go for the two pointer.
OuT
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OuTpaTienT
02-21-2001, 12:03 AM
No hard feelings CMonster, I'm just trying to get a handle on where you're comming from.
Of the two quotes of yours I commented on, I unerstood the first one to be sarcasm but still decided to point out it's fatal flaw. Probably wasn't necessary. Bad call on my part.
And I think the second quote threw me off because you grouped the two sentences together as a paragraph. I was trying to extract one idea from them, when really there's two seperate ideas there. No big whoop. Seems just a misunderstanding.
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I really don't understand why you're so ADAMANT that eating dog in the U.S. of A. should be wrong.(or perhaps what you're saying is that it IS illegal, in which case my apologies for the misquote.)
I think if more people had at least the OPPORTUNITY to TRY dog, we could do a lot more good for this country than your position seems to indicate that you believe it could.
I can't count the number of times I've been watching "The Price Is Right"(when I was unemployed that is) and saw Bob Barker talking about Getting your pet spayed or neutered. Hey, that's a problem why? Because pets screw too much and have unwanted babies? I suppose that's ONE way of looking at it, but perhaps another is that it's a problem because these animals can't be humanely disposed of AND be put to good use by society.
Lifting any existing bans on serving Dog and Cat meat would certainly have a positive effect on this horrible problem. Think about it, you wouldn't have HOMELESS pets. Why? Simply because those @$$holes who would normally abandon their pets would instead opt to SELL them to the local butcher or restaurant and make a little cash. If the same standards for putting the animals to death were enforced as are used in the meatpacking industry, then HEY we have a consistent standard across the board for ALL domestic animals, not just two house pets.
With other sources of meat, some of our hindu friends could have a little more variety in their diets than just goat meat and mutton all the time.
****, I don't know, maybe dog is GOOD. Think about it, dog shows would have new categories. You would have categories for both the pet category as well as the food animal category.
I'm simply presenting it as a viable solution to several problems which currently plague our society. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
8) Daffy
P.S. Think about it: Dog..the OTHER other white meat.
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Mykex
02-21-2001, 12:30 AM
AAAK Instead of eating DOGs + Cats I think you should turn your apitite towards nusance animals that have caused a tad more trouble. Mice,Rats,Roaches,Termites,Fireants,Pigeons(not too much of a nusance but theres plenty),Crow,Starlings to name a few.
With PETA and the ASPCA around we are lucky to eat meat,pets are right out.
I like the dont eat it if it smiles rule,luckly in my eyes chickens and cows seem depressed all the time. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif
CMonster
02-21-2001, 02:47 AM
Here is a funny story about grudges and payback:
(but first, just for the record: I have never eaten dog)
Once upon a time when I was 24 and living in a Korean boarding house (here in the US), I shared a room with a 30-year old Korean seminary student (Now I should mention that I am an American of European decent, some might call me a "white" or caucasion but I do not adhere to those labels -anyway, back to the story.).
One morning I belly-crawled down the hallway to the kitchen and as I went I cried out jokingly for coffee as if I were a thirsty man in the desert.
Suddenly there was an impact and substantial stinging POW! on my *** as the would-be cuurch pastor clobbered my **** with a Brittanica Atlas book! I bolted to my feet as he said laughingly, "THAT is the way we wake people up in Korea."
When I was done rubbing my *** I repeatedly mimicked the motion of him swinging the book down on my *** and replied, "Very funny, very funny, I'll remember the book."
A week later to the day, as my roomie slept Korean style on a pile of blankets on the floor I stealthily filled a plastic produce bag from my welding tanks - 1/2 acetylene -1/2 oxygen by volume. I tied off the bag and set it about 3-feet from his head. Then I pitched a lit match at it """!!!{{{**BOOM**}}}!!!"""
Good thing the door was open or the windows would have blown out - the concussion knocked me off balence.
The would-be minister convulsed into a fetal position and repeatedly called out in Korean, "Oh LORD! Oh LORD!".
When he finally realized he had been HAD, he turned to me with a demonic look in his eyes and began to come at me with his arms reaching for my neck. I quickly made the motion of swinging a book down on someone's *** and yelled, "Remember the BOOK?" - and then I added rather tersely, "THAT IS THE WAY WE WAKE PEOPLE UP IN AMERICA!"
To which he replied, "You a pretty funny guy!"
Later he told me he thought it was the second coming of Christ.
He did eventually become a pastor.
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commodsquad
02-21-2001, 06:37 AM
I think we should note also that Native Americans have also been known to eat dog
Since the example above was posted, I think it should also be noted that many caucasians, whites, american-european descent, etc..( whatever label preferred..)
have also been known to have eaten the meat of canines. Actually it would have been better to point out that just about every race has dined on Lassie's species for some reason or other.
That said, I would like to point out that
I happen to be Native American, Indian, First Nations people descent, etc..(again whatever label preferred) (actually almost full Chippewa and a bit of Cree) and I have yet to find a family recipe for this particular type of meat http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif . It is common among tribes and bands to poke fun at eachother by claiming one or the other feasts upon puppy soup and other doggy created delights for whatever situation manifests itself - be it tradition, ceremonial, etc... This sort of jibing back and forth thing goes back to when rivalry was more common, yet still has traces of that rivalry surviving all these years, amongst the different factions of peoples that roamed this continent before a 16th century immigration policy could have been implimented http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif . Now I am not saying it doesnt happen or didnt because I know it did; it wasnt and isn't nor could be considered a common staple of the diets of the Native American peoples though. Most accounts of incidental "doggy treats" were based off of someone witnessing desperation and starvation. Knowing any race of people are capable of just about anything only reassures me that it has happened and probably still does from time to time with species that one culture might find strange but isnt so strange to another. For the most part though, it really is more of a myth or urban legend if you will, and a common thread as a running joke and sometimes even practical joke in today's American Indian world. By practical joke I mean, that we sometimes get some enjoyment from telling/fooling visitors or tourists after they have tried a dish or two that they have sampled a true Indian cuisine just because we know from much experience that to simply deny the stereotype they expect; wouldn't sway them from their he-said she-said beliefs anyway. Another example would be: to tell them if they ever venture into one of the surrounding Indian communities not to try or at least watch out for particular dishes like the soup which is a common food item at gatherings.. Trust me, It's Beef or Bison or if down south - Mutton... Don't get me wrong.. We do tell the person or people that it really is a joke and will do our utmost to reassure them it is indeed an accepted edible if they happen to have a delicate nature and become a bit freaked out. We understand that our humor can be disarming at times just like other culture's brand of humor can also be. For the most part, it usually is quite obvious as being a joke considering most of the elders will be laughing so hard that their loved ones will sometimes have concerns about them over-exerting themselves and the "victim" of the moment will join in on the fun and get a big laugh out of it too. Humor is a big part of the Indian culture and a great way to break the ice or dissapate any tensions that might be present in the moment at hand. But before I go off rambling here, I really only wanted to re-itterate what someone else has already stated; that what you hear about one culture might not necessarily be based on hard fact and is quite commonly either a stab at humor, personal opinion, stereotype, something taken out of context, or at worst a form of prejudice...
my 2 cents...
my apologies if I offended anyone....
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CMonster
02-21-2001, 08:14 AM
commodsquad - I know what you mean, but don't miss the second part of my statement 'Does this mean all Indians eat dog?' (the answer is: of course not!) Perhaps you understand well what I found offensive at first.
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Yes, that's right folks. The wonder-cook of the world, Martin Yan, has proven himself to go where no chef has gone before. When one of his recipes on his show went bad he was confronted with making up a new recipe on the spot. What did Martin do? "Well, it was very hard to think of something, so I had to improvise with what I had," said Yan. He grabbed his two children, put them in a Wok and began his new meal. "This way, these children will not have to live in a horrible world like this, and we can also enjoy them in a very good soy sauce!" I was in the audience at the time and everybody was pretty skeptical about this recipe at first, as was I. Believe it or not, this was quite possibly the best food I've ever had. And the rest of the people in the audience were in total agreement with me. One lady shouted, "Hey Martin! Thanks a lot! I'm due to have sextuplets in a few months and it's right in time for Thanksgiving!" We all laughed and cheered the entire time. I can't remember when I had so much fun. I personally thanked Martin for saving two children from a horrible life on this pathetic planet that is quickly withering away...
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CMonster
02-21-2001, 02:22 PM
KOP - those sure are cute kids! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
commodsquad
02-21-2001, 02:54 PM
CMonster - I didn't miss the second part http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
I was merely pointing out that it might have been better to collectively combine cultures or races in the context of the "who ate what" subject rather than single one out as an example.
And yes I do understand your original take on the subject. When blanket misinformed statements like " Did you know so and so do this and that?" are made without really knowing the all of the facts; It usually propogates nothing more than the passing on of more misinformation. Contrary to poplular belief, a majority of the population take just about everything they hear or read as the plain and simple fact without taking into account the subject of "propoganda" or ever really questioning and investigating to find out if it really is the truth....
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Tex_Gex
02-21-2001, 03:02 PM
Hey Guys,
I know for a fact that some filipino's eat black dog and only black dog.. I spent 15 years in Hawaii which has a large filipino population.
I used to do a little drywall hanging and we had this guy named Danny. Everytime we say a black dog lab/mutt mix he would get a weird look in his eye. One day I asked him whats up with staring all the black dogs and he said in the Philipines they eat dog.... I said why do you stare at only the black dogs and he said the taste better.....
Honest to gods truth.
Aloha
commodsquad
02-21-2001, 07:49 PM
LOL@ "they taste better"
I like that one hehe http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif
Well being an American Indian I do sometimes tell jokes or make off color comments that have the "dog consumption" element along with other stereotypical types of elements at the expense of my own culture. For example:
One day I happened to be standing outside of the place I worked with my supervisor who didn't mind my style of humor. Anyway,
across the street I noticed another Indian was walking his dog and I turned to my supervisor and told him " There goes one of the smart Indians." He asked me how I knew that particular piece of information and I told him with a grin on my face, " Because he packed a lunch...." http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif
Of course he knew I was only joking and since I did previously explain to him about the way my culture sometimes poked fun at stereotypes in spite of itself, He never took me serious and never in turn went around telling everyone that Indians "exercise their lunch" based on an offcolor comment I may have made in jest.
Also, on the other side of the spectrum, another time I was out taking a break and watching the pedestrians rush to wherever they were going and he walked up and asked what I was up to. Without hesitation and fighting back the need to bust a gut laughing, I turned and in a dead-pan well-timed fashion told him " Shopping for white people...But so far, the current selection leaves alot to be desired..." http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif The look on his face as he cracked up more than showed me he wasn't offended and actually got a big kick out of my comment http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif .
I had a great time on that job and was never treated with anything but respect and like part of a family http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif but, unfortunately had to move http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif .
No offense anyone...
CMonster
02-22-2001, 12:02 AM
Crowds and masses on a dying planet of poison gasses,
Striped of trees, soon devoid of life; these truths in reality speak of the strife.
Mindless sheep and many blind sheepherds roam the earth at will,
Products of the city, they have no vision, only a rythym of cars, and blood pumping, and balls thumping,
And they're jumping like a monkey to the tune.
G. Posten
Warthog
02-22-2001, 12:45 AM
whoa......haven't been following this thread....ummmmmmm I didn't mean anything racist... http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif
Warthog
CMonster
02-22-2001, 01:06 AM
No problem Pumba, you gotta put your behind in your past.
Hakunna Mutatta - Timon
CMonster
02-22-2001, 02:40 AM
Friends "in-the-know" claim that dog meat works better than Viagra http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif -but then they say that about rhino horn also.
Once an Alaskan man was convicted for killing and eating an eagle, asked why, he told the judge that his family had been starving.
The judge let him off with probation. However, as the man was leaving the courtroom the judge asked, "Just out of morbid curiousity, what does eagle taste like?"
To which the man replied, "It's kind of hard to describe... sort of like a cross between baby seal and gray whale."
[This message has been edited by CMonster (edited 02-22-2001).]
M_Six
02-23-2001, 07:10 AM
Eating dog is a time honored tradition in many cultures. In China they like it stir fried. I believe they call it "Woking the dog". http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif I think Aerosmith even has a song about it.....
"If you don't know how to do it, I'll show how to Wok the Dog."
Could they have meant something else? http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
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