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thekingofpain
12-13-2000, 09:29 AM
Is it really actually over??? http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001213/ts/election_leadall_dc_510.html

Win_98
12-13-2000, 10:24 AM
I think I just hide under the rock while all these is happening.

Roy
12-13-2000, 02:23 PM
$5.00 says he doesn't have the courage to conceed. That would be admitting losing.

It's a bet I would like to lose! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif

zskillz
12-13-2000, 11:40 PM
i'm gladit's over for the most pathetic reason...

I don't have to read all the *****ing and whining that half of you have been doing any more...

that will be nice
-Z

btw-goodbytes...if you are under the perception that bush's win was wholly legitimate, then you are severely mistaken

wedor
12-14-2000, 12:13 AM
HA! he'll probably retract that an hour or 2 later..............

Mr.Goodbytes
12-14-2000, 12:34 AM
My prediction:
Gore will indeed concede tonight, but he will do so in a manner that will cast a shadow of doubt on the legitimacy of Bush's Presidency. He will most likely say that he will abide by the Supreme Courts ruling; however, he will mention that he does not believe the democratic process has been completely carried out. Gore might be as bold to say that he still believes he got more votes than Bush. In any event, the democratic party will now continue its campaign to delegitimize Bush's Presidency. They will do so under the veil of support for Bush and the wish to aid in the healing process. We all know they hate the fact that he won, and furthermore, they hate even more that they still have no majority in Congress.

krusty the klown
12-14-2000, 01:32 AM
Hear, hear zskillz!!!

Joel Kleppinger
12-14-2000, 09:49 AM
Ummm.... zskillz... how is it not legit? We live by the law and the law says he won. He wasn't the one trying to subvert the law.

zskillz
12-14-2000, 10:36 AM
joel, don't confuse legitmacy with legality... there's a very big difference

-Z

Toadman
12-14-2000, 11:01 AM
Ok Z, then how is Bush's win illegal? Please enlighten us. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

zskillz
12-14-2000, 11:54 AM
wow... sometimes i wonder if people have read the entire thread before they type something at the end of it...

I never said bush's win wasn't legal... I did say that it wasn't wholly legitimate.

enlightened??

-Z

Win_98
12-14-2000, 01:58 PM
This is something that I don't really care much about, or should care at all. As you know we're busy 24hrs a day trying solve own own problem. I got bill to pay, got... well you get the ideas.

Romulus2
12-14-2000, 03:11 PM
Yay! I love semantics! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Here's some ammunition for you guys:

Merriam-Webster:

le·git·i·mate
Pronunciation: li-'ji-t&-m&t
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English legitimat, from Medieval Latin legitimatus, past participle of legitimare to legitimate, from Latin legitimus legitimate, from leg-, lex law
Date: 15th century
1 a : lawfully begotten; specifically : born in wedlock b : having full filial rights and obligations by birth <a legitimate child>
2 : being exactly as purposed : neither spurious nor false <legitimate grievance> <a legitimate practitioner>
3 a : accordant with law or with established legal forms and requirements <a legitimate government> b : ruling by or based on the strict principle of hereditary right <a legitimate king>
4 : conforming to recognized principles or accepted rules and standards <legitimate advertising expenditure> <legitimate inference>
5 : relating to plays acted by professional actors but not including revues, burlesque, or some forms of musical comedy <the legitimate theater>
synonym see LAWFUL

le·gal
Pronunciation: 'lE-g&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French, from Latin legalis, from leg-, lex law
Date: circa 1500
1 : of or relating to law
2 a : deriving authority from or founded on law : DE JURE b : having a formal status derived from law often without a basis in actual fact : TITULAR <a corporation is a legal but not a real person> c : established by law; especially : STATUTORY
3 : conforming to or permitted by law or established rules
4 : recognized or made effective by a court of law as distinguished from a court of equity
5 : of, relating to, or having the characteristics of the profession of law or of one of its members
6 : created by the constructions of the law <a legal fiction>
synonym see LAWFUL

oblivion
12-14-2000, 05:55 PM
I feel that since Gore did get the majority overall he should be president.........I feel that the electoral college has worn out its usefullness.

I personally could give a ratts *** who wins though............its all the same to me......At least between those two.

zskillz
12-14-2000, 08:41 PM
i'm calling the rules of the game into question Fingers... that's all i'm saying

Fingers
12-15-2000, 12:15 AM
If the game is played according to the rules established before the game begins, why wouldn't the lawful winner also be the legitimate winner?

Fingers
12-15-2000, 03:42 AM
I'm not big on polls, but;

Poll: Majority of Americans accept Bush as legitimate president (http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/13/cnn.poll/)
An overwhelming majority of Americans -- 80 percent -- are prepared to accept Texas Gov. George W. Bush as the legitimate president, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted today.
...The survey...was conducted December 13...before Vice President Gore and President-elect Bush's televised speeches Wednesday night.

zskillz
12-15-2000, 07:29 AM
i'm not big on polls either...
-Z