armed standoff in Texas - another Waco in the making?

[bdog]

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/front/628282

[chipbgt]

We'll see how long they can last holed up in there. I dont htink its ont he level of say, a waco. The people will need water and food eventually.

[jad1097]

It looks to me like this guy needs to be incarcerated. I just hope none of the children are hurt or killed.


"Now, the 51-year-old Gray apparently is holed up in his compound, which is surrounded by barbed wire and fortified by a bunker ringed with sandbags, dodging two felony warrantsemming from an altercation with state troopers. He has dared the authorities to "come and get me" and warned them to "bring body bags." "

"Not only is Gray a fugitive, but one of his daughters also has arrest warrants outstanding against her, and the family is harboring two of his grandchildren who were awarded to their father in divorce court 15 months ago." Kidnapping?

"Then came the minor brushes with the law stemming from the family's allegiance to a fringe, Oregon-based church called the Embassy of Heaven. The sect does not recognize government authority, even the authority to license drivers, register automobiles, issue birth certificates and Social Security numbers or to conduct civil courts. "


"Last Christmas Eve, state troopers in Anderson County stopped a car for speeding near Palestine. The driver obeyed the command to get out of the car, but the passenger, identified as Gray, refused and had to be forcibly removed from the vehicle. He was wearing a gun in a shoulder holster and he scuffled with the two troopers, biting one of them on the hand and grabbing an officer's pistol, according to the troopers' report.

The car contained several weapons, including high-caliber pistols and assault rifles.

Gray was charged with two felonies -- assaulting an officer and taking his weapon -- and was released on bond. He retreated to his riverside home and failed to show for any of his court appearances. Finally, in May, felony warrants were issued in Anderson County, but by then, Gray had fortified his property with bunkers and was prepared for a long standoff."


And what kind of BS is this?
"The bonding company, which stands to lose nearly $300,000, has declined to send bounty hunters after Gray. The state Child Protective Services agency has declined to intervene, Tarkington was told, unless he has evidence that the children are being abused. The Henderson County sheriff's office and the Department of Public Safety have also declined to move against Gray,d the FBI has told Tarkington it has no jurisdiction."

[ram]

So the answer is of course to go in with a freaking army and burn em out???? How many kids have to die before they figure it out?
Just back off and get him when he comes out!!! Dumb *deleted* holes!!


Watch the language! -Mntsnow

[This message has been edited by Mntsnow (edited 08-11-2000).]

[BBA]

Well, truthfully, it is his property and he is enforcing it. I say, whenever he steps foot outside of it, bag him. He committed his illegal acts on public property, so he is liable and should be prosecuted. The longer he waits, the worse it should be for him.

Kind of weird that he is pushing the property thing in the face of the gov't. I think he's kind of a loose nut to let things as simple as these esculate into felony status to ultimately end up with a dangerous confrontation.

What an idiot. I think more political means can be reached without cutting yourself off from the country that goes to war to protect your freedom.

[ram]

Amen and Amen!!BBA

[jjsole]

Well said, BBA, and I agree with you completely.

(I knew there'd eventually be some common ground. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif )