my thoughts toward the RIAA.......

[falcompsx]

*deleted* YOU...

PS
this message IS intended to offend anyone associated with the RIAA...no one who is a user of napster, or sysopt(they are all cool people).


I figure everyone gets the idea of your message -Mntsnow

[This message has been edited by Mntsnow (edited 07-27-2000).]

[krusty the klown]

Fur Queue Two RIAA!

[falcompsx]

sorry for the harsh language, i was just a little ticked at RIAA...Anyway good news i think...i've heard that napster won the apeal so they will be staying up!

[chipbgt]

Yes, thank goodness.

Now we can all continue to illegally download music problem free. How dare they try to protect there copyrighted material.....those jerks.

[Roy]

The recording companies have the same problem as Billy G. G-R-E-E-D!!!

The easiest way for them to kill Napster is to compete on a level playing field. I know there are costs associated with keeping the artists and others in limos and drugs, but it costs almost nothing to make the actual realease CD. AOL throws 'em away by the millions.

Just give me full CD quality (better by far than MP3) at a reasonable price and I'll be there with some green.

I hate to think what's going to happen with HDCD prices!

[This message has been edited by Roy (edited 07-28-2000).]

[chipbgt]

on a sort of related topic, why are dvd's so expensive? gets me all buggered up.

[Richard_Cranium72]

I must say that all you are making such a big fuss over paying a measly $10-12.00 for a CD. We at the record companies have a huge overhead in producing these for the public. On the average we sponsor 37 singers of which 36 cost us RED ink, that is we LOSE money on the deal. When the 37th star comes along we have to cash in on the deal cause all the months of robbing Peter to pay Paul has just about bankrupted the industry. The internal costs incurred including the research into copyright infringement, legal expenses, corporate hdqs, lobbying, and all the hand holding that no one outside the industry has a clue as to what is really going on. The numbers don't tell the whole story about the record industry, the news media claims a multi-billion dollar industry, this is true if take just that word out of context. The facts are that all the monies, billions, are just barely enough to keep it all going. The profit margin is so pitifully small you wouldn't believe it. Heck, the electric industry is allowed a 12% return on their money, we are lucky to get 0.5%!! So enough of this whining, pay for the music or sing to yourself. Copyright laws are for everyone, in the end the courts will decide who has failed to comply. As you know it is a Federal law, Copyright infringement carries a very serious financial burden not to mention that jail time is sometimes enforced.. think about it before you steal.. and another thing, I hope you don't really think I'm serious, HA! Gotcha, DrVette

[Ygor]

Chip, a few dvd's may be games but most of those are movies, look at all the names in the credits. That's overhead!
For a real laugh, check all the "production assistants" listed in the Blair Witch Project. And it was presented as an amateur film!
Hmmm, they may be trying to make back in the dvd market what they figure they're losing to tape.
As for the riaa, they claim to represent the artists, but I suspect they really represent the company executives.
If top executives were limited to million dollar annual salaries, how much could prices come down? I know it won't happen, but it's hard for me to imagine justifying anyone being worth that much annual salary, much less more.
Now the artists themselves, if they touch enough people... and who knows how long they'll have that magic?
Oh well, that's a whole other can of worms

[BBA]

Growing up well versed in audio/tv electronics, the RIAA always meant nothing more than a standard by which sound recordings were equalized for different media...IE: Phono/Tape/FM...etc...

They should have stayed that!

[jad1097]

$10-12 a cd my ***! You should come take a look at the prices here! How about trying $14-18 a cd! Yes I see your point but the price is wrong. If they were $10 a pop I would have many more.

My collection of records, tapes and cd's is very extensive and a replacement cost of todays money would be around $10,000 give or take a few hundred, if I was even able to find some of them! Wow I never figured I had that much invested but this is a collection I have obtained over 20+ years.


I have paid $250+ for rare vinyl records and got some for $7 that the used record shops did not know were rare. That is a price I am willing to pay because some records are rare and I am a collector.


I have found a better way to buy my cd's now and that is buy them used burn a copy and then sell them back for a $2-3 loss. Ha I would like to see th RIAA stop that!

[falcompsx]

again i say to RIAA.... **** you...

My neighbor is a musician(not the stupid record company, the musician) and he thinks napster is the best thing ever made. He hates record companies, all they do is make loads of money. Don't start with the overhead ****. $14-18 a pop for a cd that costs $0.50 to make?? can you say markup? that's pure BS.

[chipbgt]

I agree with Richard that there is a lot of overhead that goes into creating cd's..the artists, studio time, building the factory to make the cd's, packaging, shipping, advertisement, staffing, contracts, I am sure it is a lot..now, as for record companies going under? IM not so sure...what was it, like an 8 billion dollar profit last year? Yeah I think they are doing ok.

The problem is two fold, people try to justify there angst against the music industry by rebelling and using programs like napster. But its obvious that the forum Napster has created is an illegal one. Just becaue you arent getting hauled off to jail doesnt mean your not stealing from the record company and/or the artists.

The music industry has to realize mp3's arent going anywhere...its just begun.

[Richard_Cranium72]

If some will read the posts COMPLETELY they may notice an important line, like -------Quote------>>"and another thing, I hope you don't really think I'm serious, HA! Gotcha, DrVette"<<------ The record company is robbing us blind with the advent of the music CD's. The material costs involved are reported to be an average of 50cents per disc. This of course does not include the artists cut, still I personally have boycotted the music CD's because of this outrageous pricing structure. If you have a hundred CD's, the cost is like $1500.00. Too much, IMHO, anyway.. DrVette