Windows95 Definition

[MrEd]

Windows95: <win-doz-nin-te-fiv> n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition.


-MrEd
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[Bazango]

Is it true that DOS was originally a government contracted piece of software?
Also, shouldn't Macintosh fit into the defintion somewhere?

[socalgal]

Bill Gates will probably be voted as the single most influential person of the century.

[MrEd]

Macintosh is under the Caption:"**** Happens!"

I'm not sure about that dos thing, looks like I got something else to research now... http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

Socalgal: If he's not voted as most influential person, I'm sure he'll try to buy the title. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

-MrEd

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[MadMax]

"2 Bit" is a slang term for 50 cents. The stockholders of MS would laugh that attempt at a slam all the way to the bank.

Why do you people bad mouth MS? They, more than any other single company, are responsible for you being able to afford a PC in the first place. Do you now or have you ever used an MS product? Bet you have. Unless you have never done anything but online work with a linux/unix box or are an apple user, stop being a lemming with the mindless "Microsoft Sucks" statements. At least the apple faithful have a legitimate gripe. Everyone else is just a bandwagon jumping lemming.

If you don't like MS, don't buy OR use their products, ever. Leave it at that.

[Nathan]

Here's my 2 bits to MadMax. Well said. I agree. Don't worry MadMax, they'll bad mouth us on this. Either on or off this forum.

[MrEd]

I use MS stuff all the time, I just thought this was a funny thing so I posted it here for the laughs. I'm sure 90% of the people on this BBS are using windows 95 or 98 right now (Me included). Microsoft makes some good stuff, but until the end of time there is going to be criticizm and ridicule, it's human nature to make fun of something that you're jealous of so don't take it too personally when someone makes fun of something on this site. To me it's like buying an old VW Beatle. I may love the car, but for ****s, I'm going to make fun of it whenever I can, it's just in my nature. Same thing here, that's all.

Bygones?

-MrEd
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[Bazango]

I was originally Macintosh oriented until Microsoft cloned it as Windows, now I'm just as happy with Windows. Actually, Windows taught me how to use DOS, so if it came right down to it I'd be happy with DOS. Oh, and those Macintosh computers are way too expensive, MS certainly had something to do with that.

Mindless adulation of a product puts the producers of that product to sleep. Corporations should not be personality cults. There was a posting here of a Japanese parody of the iMac. No one was indignant about that, if I recall correctly.

Bill Gates? The world is full of people more influential than Bill Gates and Bill Gates does them the favor of keeping them out of the spot light. They like it that way. I wouldn't want to take the blame for the way the world is either.

[800XL]

I think of Bill Gates sort of like the job description for the president of the galaxy in Hitchhikers Guide: "The real job of the president is not to wield power, but to draw attention from it." Somewhere, there is an old man and a cat sitting in a hut running Microsoft, SUN, IBM, Apple, Intel, and AMD.

I use Windows, I even like many of the features it has. I might even go so far as to say I even like it. I like several Microsoft products actually. I still don't like Microsoft. The company was founded on a business transaction that can only be described with the word 'Con'. There is a movie coming on cable (TNT channel I believe) on June 20th called 'Pirates of Silicon Valley' all about Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. If you haven't read/heard about the beginnings of Apple and Microsoft, you have to watch this movie. It looks like they capture things just like they were. The commercials show clips of the movie while playing the song 'Everybody wants to rule the world', great stuff. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

I forgot to mention regarding MadMax's statement about Microsoft being the biggest reason we can afford computers. I think I would argue that point. There were a lot of companies that laid the foundation that Microsoft lived off. Commodore making money hand over fist with home computers brought in IBM to make a really powerful one, which brought in clones like Columbia Data Products and Compaq to compete and bring down the price. Granted, Microsoft was key is getting an operating system that everyone ended up agreeing on, but I think it could just as easily been CP/M or something.

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[MadMax]

I don't want to be taken as defending MS. I like/dislike ALL software. I just get aggravated at the non-stop MS bashing by people that use MS software every day. Hell, they even use IE to make their posts! Bill Gates is a ruthless business man in a cut throat business and I sure wouldn't want to have to deal with him on a business level. That's why I made the comment about Apple. The bottom line is that I think it's ridiculous to blame MS for your computer crashing or that they somehow produce "junk".

Rampant hypocracy turns my stomach and most MS bashers are only doing it to try to be seen as "cool" and to me that amounts to not thinking for yourself. Hence the reference to lemmings....follow the person in front of you, even if they are an idiot.

MrEd~I apologize for directing my comment to you, personally. I SHOULD have directed it to the brain-dead robots that really believe that ****. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

800XL~Just take a look at PC ownership and cost per unit before W95 and AFTER W95. I said biggest SINGLE company. Most of the other players on the front end don't even exist any more and modern IBM low end PCs are a joke. W95, like it or not, revolutionized PCs (real or not, that's the way it's perceived), caused them to sell, brought the price down and everybody bought one.

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[MrEd]

It's okay MadMax, I didn't take it personally. I was actually defending not only myself, but most people that bash Microsoft. It's only fun and games, man. Just think, do you think Bill really cares what people are saying about Microsoft? Of course not, because he knows that the only people that say those things are Microsoft product owners, and they're still buying his stuff. Like I said, it's just all fun and games and I'm sure he knows it.

As "Talking Monkeys", we all have the capacity to voice our opinions, wants, fears, etc... We also have the capacity to learn from one another. That's what places like this are all about. We have that god given/constitutional right to speak, just remember, not every opinion needs to be argued, don't turn a simple joke or comment into a big discussion, some things are better left unsaid. (courtesy of my dad while I was growing up)
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Geez, I should have posted the 'Yo mama's so fat, I once walked around her and got lost, joke instead.

Anyway, I thought the definition was pretty funny.

-MrEd

[800XL]

I'll give you the W95 bit. That was a major turning point. In terms of numbers of units, much bigger than anything else that comes to mind. In terms of percentage of increase, I think the clone market was more substantial. A lot of today's computer market has to do with the Internet, so one of us should at least mention AOL. MS has their hand in the Internet, but AOL sold it to so many peoples' grandparents. That is an accomplishment.

I agree with the point about hypocritical MS bashing for that sake of it. There is a counter arguement that you just can't avoid using a MS product though. If you want to play GameX or run XDatabase, you are stuck. Honestly, I would run Linux if the powerbase of software were there, but it isn't. Perhaps Quake 3 will change all that...

[tomcda]

Why dose MS use Unix on HOT MAIL instead of NT?? - Go Figure...

[Andre]

Actually Billyboy was hired by IBM, and he did a lot of programming, but then someday he left! And with him he took DOS.
IBM couldn´t do a thing, and that was the start of the MEGAsoft worlddomination!