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Target
07-12-2000, 02:17 PM
I don't know what would make that rig $59.....seems pretty steep to me.

Gomer
07-12-2000, 02:21 PM
I believe it was P.T. Barnum who said it best.... "There's a sucker born every minute."

KillerBug
07-12-2000, 02:43 PM
The whole point is that it is metal, and it has a very powerfull motor on it. High speeds like that cause plastick blades to bend and loose efectivness. That is why the only plastic blades that go that fast are like 50mm or 60mm tops.

SoopaStar
07-12-2000, 05:21 PM
Does anyone know where I can find a fan like that, and of that caliber? I know I can make the plate that it sits on out of some nice plexiglass.

Paul

Szech
07-12-2000, 05:34 PM
44dB!?!?!? ****! That's going to sound like a vacuum cleaner! Or a jet engine!

BBA
07-12-2000, 08:17 PM
Looks like a super fan...for a particular application with a 5 year warrenty. 11W power rating is quite a bit for any PC fan...so you know it screams.

Might be a ripoff, but then again, you might get what you pay for!

I curious...so if you get one, let us know.

tonym
07-12-2000, 09:14 PM
Paul,

You can try EBM http://www.ebm.com/ and Papst http://www.papst.com/english/products_luefter_start.html. They make the Cadillacs and Mercedes of cooling fan products. They are powerful and reliable, but they're NO cheap date.
I've used these fans in telecom and computer systems that use fault-tolerant fan packs -- up to 36 fans per system (18 top pulling and 18 bottom pushing)! They are FANtastic!!! (Pun intended) ;^)

Now there's also Japan Servo http://www.japanservo.com/. They make a fine product, not quite an EBM or Papst...but certainly a lot less expensive!

Any of these fans will give you the airflow and life that you're looking for.

And I'll bet the PC Power & Cooling unit uses a re-labeled fan from one of the previous mfgrs!

And to answer your question "Why do they cost so much?". You are paying for performance and reliability. Period. The top-line fans use real ball-chase bearings and special controlled viscosity lubricants. They are also balanced to within a fraction of a gram of true to control vibration and prolong bearing life. The plastic fans used everywhere in computers MIGHT last 50,000 hours or they might **** out at 10,000. You just don't know. They're manufactured VERY cheaply and are truly "dime-a-dozen". The top-end fans have a tight failure distribution and you'll easily get 90,000+ hours for the L10 (lowest 10% of the failures). And with this you get tremendous airflows. In some cases 100+ CFM. They are simply great fans!

Good luck...


Tony



[This message has been edited by tonym (edited 07-12-2000).]

SoopaStar
07-12-2000, 09:46 PM
Where would I buy one of these?

Paul

SoopaStar
07-13-2000, 12:06 AM
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/cooling/system/index_tc_2x.htm
I was goign to buy one becuase its such a good idea--but they want $59 or something! for a **** fan and a peice of plastic!! I can get that type of plastic and cut the mold myself. Adding a power cord wold be a piece of cake! (although I may run it off my power supply). I think they are nuts for that price!
Paul

Worm
07-13-2000, 01:59 AM
Hurricane Fans seel for only a bit more. You get a whopping 24" diameter, three blades with 3 speed setting. It'll move 100's of Cuft per minute. This thing on high will pull your hair straight back if you look into it. Just apply a duct to it and run it into your case. If your chips and cards don't blow away you should have no problems with cooling. LOL

SDT
07-13-2000, 05:04 AM
Note that the fan is advertised for fault tolerent systems. Companies that have applications that require fault tolerent systems are willing to pay a lot more for gear that will virtually never fail. This kind of reliability has a price attached to it and is rarely cost justifiable by a home user or small business.
I have some pcpower&cooling fans in my system (not that particular model)and they are the best quality that I have seen on the market today. If you want a fan that will still be going strong 10 years from now (and probably several pc's from now http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif then this may be the fan for you.